I know Fred Mitchell must wake up every night in cold sweats mumbling ,Damm that Ramon Sanchez .If it wasn,t for Sanchez there would be no hearings , the PLP was praying he would tire b/c they knew he was too much of a fighter for his peoples rights to be bought off ..

The behavior of this government is amateur hour at its worst! According the the Minister of National Security, we are about to imminently initiate proceedings against the Defence Force officers implicated in the Cuban abuse allegations at the Detention Centre, with a “full report” of the proceedings to be released at its conclusion. Yet, according to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, he is not aware of any abuse of Cubans at the Detention Centre. You can't even make this stuff up! Embarrassing guys, let's get it together.

Come on Nottage i thought better of you ,how the hell are you going to have proceedings or a fair investigation when the most important witnesses ,the beating victims have all been send back to Cuba .. I don,t care if Moses oversees the hearings you can only get one side of the story ,and i don,t think the RBDF marines w/ no victims to refute them are going to willingly admit they beat the crap out of people ..

HOW THE @#$@@$ CAN THEY FACE HEARINGS W/ NONE OF THE ALLEGED VICTIMS HERE TO TESTIFY ....

I do not agree with the abuse at the detention centre...we should not violate the rights of detainees. Now with that being said....yall know that if a Bahamian had set fire to the detention centre the way the cubans did to ours....that Bahamian would get lost in a cuban prison..with no paper trail to say they were ever brought there.

We were wrong to abuse them if abuse did occur, but i will not drag down my country and side with people who are trying to destroy us. At the end of the day we are all Bahamians and the US and Cuba couldn't care less if our economy is in the toilet. I am not a PLP but I will not help foreigners destroy us by speaking bad of our country just to make the plp look bad!!!!

We're not Cuba. We're the Bahamas, where it's allegedly **Better**

No one has to give this administration any assistance in the looking bad category. And I stress **this** administration, no mention of party.

@briwest,,,so if we beat the crap out of someone ,but foreigners says it ,it doesn,t matter ?? .IF i slap the sh33t out of a tourist,a cuban american tourist, and steal his money and he goes to the police and goes to the press it doesn,t matter ??So the administration could loot every penny from our treasury and put it in secret foreign bank accounts and if foreign police find it and say the PLP hid it there you don,t want our money back b/c it will make the PLP look bad ..Only the administration can make themselves look good or bad by their actions ..

obviously u did not read my comments. The first thing I said was that abuse is wrong.

Then what's there to side with? The Cubans are saying exactly that something "wrong" happened, they only went into a tizzy because we tried to cover it up...and they're right...the only reason we're even discussing this is because one of the detainees got a cellphone..

this is my point exactly...reports say that a Bahamian gave them the cell phone...why did a Bahamian show this to the world....that Bahamian should have reported the issue to authorities and only show it to the world if the authorities did not respond...but we were so quick to show our country in a bad light because of these rogue officers....

Why did Schindler save those Jews? Didn't he know that by allowing them to escape the world would find out what was going on in the prison camps. He was a German traitor.

We are a far cry from Germany, my friend...German soldiers make us look like a walk in the park. Millions of Jews died....if we ever got to that point...i agree the world should know.

Larger scale, same effect, he should have been quiet, try to clean things up internally, what he ended up doing was besmirching Germany as a whole. He could have spared the country that if he'd only been a good patriot.

You have obviously missed the point, on purpose as usual. Why do individuals speak out in face of overwhelming opposition? When his heart tells him something is wrong and the mass says just do as you're told. Keep this quiet if you speak it will hurt all of us.

@briewest THE authorities did not respond

everything else that u said was your comments not mine...abuse is wrong..and we should deal with all illegal activities. But I will not go on television and air my dirty laundry. Reports have said there are death threats against Bahamians because of this issue of abuse...that means all of us...not just the suppoerters of the government all of us...so while we deal with our issues..we need to be aware of the long term effects of our actions. More work and less talk...90% of the talk surrounding this issue is just talk....it is not fixing the issue.

This is what the administration is completely missing, all of the death threats the vitriol the name calling..**all of it** is as a result of **OUR action/inaction**

@briewest,,,Wow ,maybe after 4 months and no investigation , i imagine there fellow country men were getting a little upset . Also how can there be an impartial investigation when the alleged victims have been sent back .By your reasoning if i see some Bahamians beating another Bahamian half to death by the caves and the only place i can get help is from foriegners on the beach i shouldn,t do it b/c the foriegners will see our dirty laundry ..geez lousie talk about xenophopia

I said in my comments that we go to authorites first in our country before we go outside. Maybe some of my comments are being deleted....but you people are mis-quoting me left right and centre....i never suggested that if help is not forthcoming that we should not seek help elsewhere. That was a ridiculous comparison......I may need a lawyer to even comment on here in the future...wow...

None of your comments are deleted its all there in print . As to needing a lawyer its all printed above ,none are deleted .Lawyers can only be helpful in libel or slander if an untruth caused financial or other hardship ,considering there is a written record of your comments it would be hard to prove our opinion of them was untrue and caused hardship . Read the 5th post on this topic ,which is yours , and tell me how i and others could have come to another conclusion then we did .

Using your logic, when the government considers holding parents responsible for the acts of their children, are they not also encouraging these parents to destroy their children by co-operating with the police. What is moral and right was moral and right yesterday, today and it will be so tomorrow. Just as we as a society have a right to expect parents, cloaked in the armour of righteousness, to report even their children who commit crimes why should it then be ok for us to turn a blind eye to abuse, be it against Bahamians or foreigners. The point you are missing is that if this situation was handled with an iota of professionalism we would not be talking about this right now. Even today the government is not speaking with one accord. It is like the neighborhood bully after being punched in the mouth crying and protesting about being victimized.

The point I am making is that this is more of a political issue not just a humanitarian one. If the govt was FNM...the FNM's that are so loud now would be silent...and vice versa re the PLP. Pepole are more concernerd with destroying a particular party than they are for the Cuban people. If this had happened on papa's watch...many of the same ppl crying foul and asking for Fred's dismissal would be SILENT. My issue is not that pepole are defending the cubans, but the reason why. If we are defending the cubans out of love for our fellow man...then great!!. But if we are doing so to simply poke fun at the present governments obvious inadequacies, and belittle the country...then shame on us all!

I for one am not FNM. I did have doubts about this administration in May 2012 but I had hopes they would not give an encore performance. If this same thing had happened under Ingraham and I had "heard" about it, I would say the same thing...what were those guys thinking, why doesn't the administration get in front of this story, did you see that man's back. Exact same thing no hesitation. I don't like to see people abused. I don't even like to hear about hardened criminals being beaten by police, they're someone's son or brother or uncle or father. I don't like to see it happening irrespective of who does it.

Why don't you post the report so we can all see the details?

After 4 and 1/2 months how can BJ even make his mouth say "imminently" with "a full report " lmfao

How old are you ?? I have never heard a Bahamian use the term "bore off ". Are your parents originally from here ? Do they know you like to cuss and call people names on the internet ??

Go helmet boy go , you tell em ,your a tough guy and you can cuss and call people names ,,,,,lmfao

Thats right helmet boy take them all on , the detainees ,the Democracy movement and the entire US OF A ,,You go boy ,call them names and cuss em ..Your not a little impotent man behind a keyboard your a super hero ..GO HELMET BOY GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Great job Bj and Fred!
Keep it up!!!
When the rules are followed, this is how its done!
when its all over, the report will be released.
Thats how a military tribunal works.
And if whiteness are needed, the defense force plane will fly them in and out.
And we will know who came and what they contributed at the end.
Now everybody SHUT THE F&@k UP!
And wait your turn.
Dont like it? Lump it!

yep C

@@GETITRIGHT I can guarantee you with near 100% certainty that the alleged victims and witnesses will never set foot in this Bahamaland again . There is a slight chance in 5 years when they get out of Castros jail they may head this way on a piece of plywood ,but highly unlikely ...The chance of the defense force flying to Cuba and Castro letting them come for sun and fun at coral harbour is about the same as winning the lottery 5 days in a row ..Come on man the complaitants will not and can not show up ,you know what that means in a court of law or military style tribunal ..

Trust me. The commandant is pissed.
The tribunal is a kangaroo court.
That thing is pretty much done b4 it starts.
guilty etc...

I'm doing my "I was right" dance. Few days ago I said they would probably not release the report citing something like national security and here it is...proceedings in camera for fear of revealing details that could compromise national security. This is like Scary Movie, predictable

This is a big messy embarrassment and all of the statements are showing we have the real aholes running the country. Like the murder case last week, when there are no witnesses the case is dismiss.

Government By and For *Wait a While, the Story Will Go Away Eventually*.

Classic, this is how they handle everything. Still waiting on the Blackbeard's Cay report...

And they are usually right, the fly in their ointment this time is a very angry Cuban activist group.

if god came down and spoke on this matter on behalf of the government you guys would call him a liar

Speak for yourself, for it is only an idiot that would consciously close their minds and heart to truth and decency for the sake of following patently petty and small minded politicians. Your argument, it would seem to me, is more appropriately directed at you because it would appear that even if God were to declare that beating and abusing other human beings is unacceptable you and others would question His authority and continue to ask for more evidence. What more evidence is needed that something against standard protocol occurred than the National Security Minister stating that proceedings against the implicated officers are imminent.