Baha Mar payment details revealed

By RASHAD ROLLE

Tribune Staff Reporter

rrolle@tribunemedia.net

JAMES Smith, former State Minister for Finance, head of the committee overseeing Baha Mar payouts, said yesterday that creditors owed up to half a million dollars are “likely” to be fully paid what they are owed.

How much money those owed more than half a million dollars receive, however, will depend on how many eligible creditors come forth with claims, he said.

“Some people might decide to stay out and pursue other means of getting the money,” he told The Tribune. “Also, some creditors might have gone out of business or left the island. So we have to see what response we get to the notice (before saying how much money those owed more than half a million are likely to receive).”

Mr Smith’s comments came the same day the Claims Committee published a notice in newspapers requesting that unsecured creditors of Baha Mar companies submit their claims by completing a form.

That form was posted on a website established by the committee which requested that creditors identify the total amount of their claims as of October 31, 2015 and offer particulars of their claims and the securities they hold.

Nonetheless, Mr Smith emphasised that payouts to former employees of Baha Mar will be prioritised over payouts to all others.

“The emphasis is on salaried workers and they will make up 90-95 per cent of the people who will receive payouts,” he said. “That’s the average Bahamian worker distinct from contractors and service providers. The residual will cover the claims of the latter group. Whether that turns out to also be 100 cents on the dollar or less will be determined by how many eligible people come forward to accept a payout.”

Mr Smith could not say how much money will be paid out overall, but he expects the Export-Import Bank of China (CEXIM) to deposit the money to the committee by mid-September.

As part of the committee’s revelations, the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) section of its website also made clear yesterday that its claims process exists on an “ex-gratia basis” and does not involve the court-appointed receivers or provisional liquidators.

This explains why the claims process does not conform to the usual payout process laid out in the Companies Act, which, for instance, states the order in which creditors must be paid.

Mr Smith said: “The bank is under no obligation to make this payment by law because the bank loaned money to one party which was unable to pay the bank and the bank then exercised its right to take over that property. But the agreement the government made with the bank was, there are lots of Bahamians hurting and we want to do something for them. That was done. These payouts are a gift from the bank.”

Nonetheless, at least one prominent stakeholder raised concerns yesterday over the “ex-gratia” process, saying it gives the committee the ability to give preferential treatment to some creditors over others.

“The duty of liquidators under the Companies Act is to treat all unsecured creditors equally,” the source, who did not want to be named in order to speak frankly about the matter, said.

“Under court supervision, if you give one creditor 50 cents on the dollar, you have to give as equal as possible of that to all creditors. But outside of the liquidation, they could give 100 cents to some and give much less to others. They could discriminate, in other words, because it’s not subject to the supervision of the court.”

The source said the current arrangement allows the parties to “discriminate against foreigners in particular, something a liquidator can’t do.”

“A creditor is a creditor in the eyes of the liquidator,” the well-placed source said. “It’s all very interesting because while you want to take care of Bahamians, you also don’t want it to be done in a way that injures the jurisdiction.”

In its notice yesterday, the Claims Committee also noted that the only people who can come forward with claims are those “owed directly by a Baha Mar company…For avoidance of doubt this notice does not cover creditors of CCA Bahamas.”

Asked about this yesterday, Mr Smith said creditors of CCA will have to seek remedies with that company.

Attorney Wayne Munroe, QC, who has represented the government run Gaming Board in court matters related to Baha Mar, also weighed in yesterday.

“CCA Bahamas has its own resources to pay its creditors,” Mr Munroe said. “They are solvent. So once reengaged they will be paid to complete and will no doubt pay people who make demands for payment.”

Even as the Claims Committee presses forward with its plans, opposition parties continue to push back at the Christie administration’s agreement with CEXIM.

In a statement yesterday, Democratic National Alliance Leader Branville McCartney noted that Baha Mar developer Sarkis Izmirlian made an offer that he claimed would pay “every single Bahamian employee and creditor, regardless if they were contracted with CCA Bahamas or Baha Mar.”

“Why is our government seeking to take credit for a deal that has screwed over Bahamians in favour of the Chinese?” Mr McCartney asked.

The deadline for submissions to the committee of claims and supporting documents regarding debt owed by Baha Mar is September 30. Claims are to be submitted by email at info@claimspv.net or in hard copy to Charlene Paul at the Baha Mar Office at the Crystal Palace Casino. The form is available at http://claimsspv.net/.

Comments

TalRussell says...

Comrades! The former State Minister for Finance, head of the committee overseeing Baha Mar payouts, said yesterday that creditors owed up to half a million dollars are “likely” to be fully paid what they are owed.That "how much money those owed more than half a million dollars receive, however, will depend on how many eligible creditors come forth with claims and the total dollars being claimed?"
The statement is a true testament that to date NO monies have been placed on trust deposit in Bahamaland to pay any creditor and the Chinese still reserve the right to decided how much money's is paid out but only after they get to examine each and every claim for compensation.
This is no more than a low-hanging tree of what may turn out to be no more than monopoly money for all, not politically connected to this government?
This government's sketchy, secret payment history does makes It's highly unlikely this will end fruitful for the Bahamalander creditors.
It started off suspicious much when the government and the Chinese serve and control the committee appointed to handle the claims and who will actually get paid what they're owed and how much moneys they are "likely" to be paid?
Baha Mar is a taxpayers moneys sinkhole. it was, is and never will be fruitful money generator for the economic welfare of The Bahamaland.

Posted 7 September 2016, 10:43 a.m. Suggest removal

banker says...

I'm getting to like you more and more. When did you get your patriotism innoculation? It sure is working. One of the collateral benefits is a dose of common sense. Send birdie to the same clinic, please.

Posted 7 September 2016, 12:43 p.m. Suggest removal

BaronInvest says...

Man, when even Tal sees it we are in trouble...

Posted 8 September 2016, 7:28 a.m. Suggest removal

shonkai says...

Try accessing the website, UNDER CONSCTRUCTION, where have we heard that before?

Posted 7 September 2016, 10:58 a.m. Suggest removal

Naughtydread says...

Posted 7 September 2016, 11:20 a.m. Suggest removal

John says...

the plot just keeps getting curiouser:
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> Curiouser and curiouser!' cried Alice (she was so much surprised, that for the moment she quite forgot how to speak good English); `now I'm opening out like the largest telescope that ever was! Good-bye, feet!' (for when she looked down at her feet, they seemed to be almost out of sight, they were getting so far off). `Oh, my poor little feet, I wonder who will put on your shoes and stockings for you now, dears? I'm sure I shan't be able! I shall be a great deal too far off to trouble myself about you: you must manage the best way you can; --but I must be kind to them,' thought Alice, `or perhaps they won't walk the way I want to go! Let me see: I'll give them a new pair of boots every Christmas.'

Posted 7 September 2016, 11:25 a.m. Suggest removal

watcher says...

I wonder if the families of Christie and Maynard (among other connected parties) have put in their claims yet, for imaginary work done on their imaginary concessions? And you can bet they will be front and centre of the line, with their claims being paid in full, no questions asked.

Posted 7 September 2016, 12:02 p.m. Suggest removal

Sickened says...

So basically this fund is only paying out money to who they want, with no oversight from the court. I can only imagine the cheques (sorry - CASH) that will be paid out to politicians and their bag-man. This stinks like Chinese garlic chicken!!!!

Posted 7 September 2016, 12:04 p.m. Suggest removal

GrassRoot says...

yes because someone other gave the money to the debtor. hence the rules laws and regulations don't apply. And the AG is applauding. AG is a cheerleader.

Posted 7 September 2016, 6:35 p.m. Suggest removal

Sickened says...

So why are staff getting paid more money? Didn't the government pay them for months and months, while they were at home or working on other jobs, out of the money that was supposedly owed to Baha Mar for the road works? Are these staff members going to be paid twice or are they being paid for not having a job since last year? AND if they do get paid 'for their notice period', shouldn't those funds either go back to the government or back to NIB?

Posted 7 September 2016, 12:09 p.m. Suggest removal

banker says...

Shouldn't James Smith get back to work and resolve Resolve? Or did it go through a bankruptcy and he lost his job?

Posted 7 September 2016, 12:44 p.m. Suggest removal

concernedcitizen says...

Its our money ..I bet my last dollar our treasury has guaranteed the loan to the Chinese bank for every penny they put into Baha mar and when and IF it sells the Chinese will get theirs first and then Christie will tell us how we the Bahamians now own a piece of the tourism pie .The treasury will not see one red cent for our piece of the tourism pie ,,can you say Ambassador Beach all over again ,,now the scam is for billions instead of millions ..

Posted 7 September 2016, 1:10 p.m. Suggest removal

GrassRoot says...

yes sounds like a hidden sovereign guarantee which, if disclosed would definitely sink the boat on the ratings for the Bahamas.

Posted 7 September 2016, 6:37 p.m. Suggest removal

banker says...

Here is something interesting that just crossed my screen. I was looking at Chinese companies, and Huawei jumped out at me. They are a mobile phone, networking and telecommunications equipment and services company headquartered in Shenzhen, Guangdong China. They are advertising for network engineers for Nassau. Now it may be that C&W or Cable Bahamas may use their equipment, but the job descriptions ask for operational experience, and not installation experience. Curiouser and curiouser. Chinese telecommunications engineers in Nassau? Why?

OPERATION & MAINTENANCE ENGINEER Nassau; Salary: Not disclosed
Type of work: Contract
Updated 23/08/2016
Huawei Jamaica Recruiter

Posted 7 September 2016, 1:41 p.m. Suggest removal

proudloudandfnm says...

Perry Christie is one lying himan being....

Don't know ifbhe's stupid or evil. Either way. He is one lying Prime Minister...

Posted 9 September 2016, 1:09 a.m. Suggest removal

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