I hate seeing this. I'm hoping they remember the feeling she's feeling in her wailing in agony. Hoping that by seeing how deeply devastating it is to lose a loved one to murder/gun violence people will stop the violence. Disgusting all of it.

http://tribune242.com/users/photos/2017…

Stop with that please, that document is foolishness. No policeman can stop someone intent on committing murder, there could be a million policemen on the street if someone determines in their heart to murder another person they will find the one spot where the million police are absent. The real solution is removing the INTENT and that is not a simple solution of "more policemen"

Sigh...we have got to pray for our children...cover them in the blood of Jesus. Changes can and will be made with God's help!

Changing "hearts" is a solution

The death and destruction is apart of God's plan.

To: thisisours.

The person may commit the murder, but a cop will be right around the corner to nab the culprit.

Question for you: how do you suggest we 'change hearts'? Call dr conville brown? He is said to be the best cardiologist in the country

Sigh I almost don't know how to respond. The view is so shortsighted. Catching one criminal "around the corner" is not the "solution to crime". That's the title of the document you typed up and sent all over whatsapp. In fact it's a brute force approach, it's working harder not smarter. Intelligent policing is ONE component of what we need and intelligent policing doesn't look anything like what you describe in your document

Again as to "hearts", I'm doubly stumped that you even asked the question. It explains why you came up with the document. What do you think Carlos Reid is doing with project Shock Treatment? He's "trying" to change hearts, he's "trying" to get young men to turn their attention away from seeking revenge. It's not easy but that is the ONLY real solution.

Your approach of nabbing one man does very little, because his brother, nephew, cousin, uncle, friend, sister, is right beside him waiting to take up the gun. It's the terrorism model.

I am sorry to see all this it is not the government or the police fault. even if the news media
and the FNMs said it was Mr: Nottage and the PLP fault. The News Media took delight in
counting murders under the PLP.

Stop lying for a while birdie. . .what they said was that your party through Mr. Davis in 2012 said that the government party was responsible for crime/murders! The media and others only reminded them that they said they had the solution for murders and will get it under control. . .because the FNM could not control it!

Birdie, we still reaping what Pindling sowed and Christie and Co watered and nurtured, if you plant weeds you just get more weeds..................

The messenger what about personal responsibility, and the rule of God that is written in
our hearts. The blame game will not do. it is not my fault will not do. there are so many
mean spirited people on this site. like clones they think alike they are rude and abrasive
some may have light. I have not paid to much attention to the difference.

Hi, mr thisisours. I am new to tribune242. To get a bead on the bloggers here, I began reading passed blogs. It appears that there are only about a dozen of you that post regularly. I have noticed that birdie is constantly being told to shut up and you are regularly called an idiot.

Yeah they usually do that when their argument is weak. Common tactic, attack the messenger. That document really needs more work, seriously

He he he he he he he he he he. . . bingo dude. . ."they do that when their arguments are weak"? That statement says so much about why they always telling you, birdie or tal to shut up or sit small or some other annoyed diatribe as such. You guys are so full of idiotic nonsense some times. . .like that stupid statement above! Did you ever think that some times they do that because yoon making no sense? Noooo. . .but rather like a PLPesque thinker like birdie or tal. . .you say any crap. . .usually against the other person. . .not even giving a dang how logical or sane it is or sounds. . .you just talk trash!

Lol..I do like to talk trash:) another thing I try to do is speak to the issue, did you look at that document? The "solution" to crime? It sounds like a high school student wrote it, I felt bad at one point, I said suppose they are a high school student (side eyes)

One correction, you haven't read my posts if you see me attacking other commenters personally, I'm "usually", "usually", discussing the topic.

Birdie is regularly called an idiot because he/she is a paid political troll who mostly posts stupid comments trying to defend the indefensible..

Hi,licks2, can you explain to me the PLP statement, please? I am unable to decipher who is PLP or FNM, and I was unaware, until now, that all of this was just a bunch of political bullshit.

You do sound very young. There is no "right" thing to say. You speak your conviction and sometimes you get backlash for it. Some of it isn't very nice:) be warned. But if you believe what you've said (and you have legit reasons to believe it, not just blind allegiance), stick with it until someone shows you (or you've researched and found) a valid reason to change your view. Like anything in life.

The comment about your document was a comment about "the document", it's neither PLP or FNM. Crime is a multifaceted problem, it doesn't have a simple solution, you need to look at the suggestions you've made and think about the other areas you haven't tackled, there's a huge social element to crime that you haven't addressed, it won't be solved with more motorcycles.

Also there are "smarter" ways to cover the island than by flooding it with police cars on every corner

You want PLP statements. . .just listen to birdie or tal.

.....like I said previously, I am new to tribune242. If these statements were made to you two on the basis of PLP/FNM, then I have to apologize to you both, as the statements can be just as true as false. I am not political.

So, "this", pray tell, what are the "smarter" ways???

That's something you need to research to add to your paper, this isn't your class assignment is it? (side eyes)

OMG...I have to agree with everyone now...you are indeed a moron.
Idiot, you are the one that said there are "smarter" ways.
I asked you, "What are the smarter ways???"
You responded with a shoulder shrug, and said,"I don't know. Can you tell me?"
I now see why everyone keeps calling you stupid, and it's not a PLP/FNM thing as was previously suggested by blogger licks2.
Which makes me wonder....what is he licking??????????

Lol. I didn't say "I don't know", in fact if you'd even done an "ok" job at reviewing my comments, you'd have seen me answer your question..Sometimes you actually have to do the work yourself. I said "I'm leaving it for you as an exercise for YOUR brain". Stretch yourself. When you go low I go high:) lol (most times)

TIO you constantly go low! I've noticed you are always latching on to anyone with a view trying to distort and distract from the issue. You go about in circles and never end with an actual point or in this case a "solution". Seems to me you have nothing better to do than criticize. It doesn't matter whether M6 is a student or not, you should not be so critical and every now and then take a moment to thoroughly consider their point of view before you go spouting out your nonsense. Your comments irk me on a regular basis but I imagine you to be a lonely soul with nothing better to do so I keep my views to myself. The "I go high comment" was just too much.

This is a place for discussion, that means you don't have to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you. In fact I can say as much as I want even if it annoys you and still have the right to speak. The first time you chose to speak you attacked personality that says something about you. I maintain my point that the document was "wanting", very much so. If that is critical so be it, it's also true

You also mention taking time to consider other points of view, I will bet not many people even read the document before the "discussion" started, I took time to READ, that's how I came up with my comment.

I noticed a change in response to my comments when I didn't drink the FNM koolaid hook line and sinker. And I won't. I don't buy the PLP koolaid either. But when I agreed with everyone on the PLP's poor performance preelection, everything was "ok". "That" to me is not taking time to "consider", it's blind allegiance

I also "pointed to" a solution, I purposefully didn't expound on it because I got the impression it was a class assignment, I could be wrong, could be someone playing games, but I'll stick with that view for now. I've given solutions over and over and over again. As to nothing better to do, lol, this is the best:) I love debate, I love it more than I dislike the vitriol clearly and the conversations here are a little more sensible than fb. The tone has changed slightly since the election, but maybe that will even out eventually

Sorry, I beg your pardon I guess I overlooked your suggestion for solutions:
#1-Removing Intent and #2-Changing Hearts. Bravo, you are every much as smart as you pretend to be. And speaking of changing hearts...looks like I was able to raise your pulse with my initial response to your nonsense. Smiles!

Raise my pulse? Where did you see that? I said "I like the debate", You and meta:) two of a kind. Possibly the same person. SassyMeta:)) The two items you listed are not the solution I was pointing to, although they're part of it. But speak to Carlos Reid before you dismiss them, find out from him how that approach "can"have an impact on crime. I'm actually really surprised that you'd dismiss them, they're the fundamental principles of every reform system in the world

Ok, mr brainful, I am a Dumas. Tell me the answer. What? You won't? Of course not. If you knew, you would be spouting your mouth non-stop. BTW...your command of the written English language is very poor, making it very difficult to understand what you are trying to say. Also, I find carrying a conversation with you difficult, as it is as if I am talking about marigolds and you are talking about stars in the sky. Yes, I know, you don't understand.

That's funny my college professor once asked me if I had a degree in English, I guess he didn't expect the quality from an international student. But I'm bested by you, great job.:)

You just reach(I can do Bahamian too lol), crime has been a topic here going on years now, do the research.

the average Bahamian diet is appalling. It is based on meat and refined carbohydrates such as white rice, white flour, white grits and white sugar. ( 12 teaspoons of sugar in every cokesoda that you feed your child). This junk food diet has made us one of the top 5 most obese countries in the world. Obesity directly correlates to inactivity. These two put together lead to sickness. We are a very sick people and the crime is simply a manifestation of this.
Tto tackle the problem will require innovative and unpopular action by a government that would have to risk being voted out of office. Most of us are addicted to consuming white sugar, if you do not believe me then try to go for one week without any, you will find it very difficult. Did you know that MacDonald's uses sugar in making their French fries?

a large contributing factor yes. why? who or what do you think has caused so many Bahamians to turn into homicidal monsters?

Baldie ............ are you saying that our diet is responsible for the crime rate?????? ....... BOL

I am having fun reading the comments of the rookie (metazor6) ......... What is a metazor????

Who u tink u foolin? U kno u neva been no college

LOL LOL. Bested again ROTFL. Anyway it's been fun, time to get some other stuff done before @Sassy really thinks I don't have anything to do

U 2 dum & stoopid

Right,mr sheeprunner?

Leave me out of this ....... You do not understand sheeprunners, my friend.

Let me correct your grammar, mr thisisours

That's funny coma my college professor once asked me if I had a degree in English full stop I guess he didn't expect the quality from a international student full stop (you got that one correct)....a sentence never begins with 'but' , as but is a conjunction.....look it up. I think that's enough. Now, mr 'I been ta college ', who bested whom? Sorry, but he asked that question of you because your grammar is atrocious

I can tell you're really upset about that document, you're pointing random fingers everywhere, who knew you'd be that touchy? Oh well...bested again:) "grammar" LOL

The clowns are here. . .