Davis lashes out over PLP arrests

By RASAD ROLLE

Tribune Staff Reporter

rrolle@tribunemedia.net

OPPOSITION Leader Philip “Brave” Davis wrote a strongly worded letter to Prime Minister Dr Hubert Minnis last week regarding criminal probes into Progressive Liberal Party politicians, warning: “When you set out to dig a grave for your enemy, dig two.”

The letter, which was written on July 18 and has since been leaked to the press, highlights Mr Davis’ frustrations with the Royal Bahamas Police Force’s (RBPF) anti-corruption investigations.

Calling investigations like the one into former Deputy Speaker of the House of Assembly Dion Smith an “abuse of power,” Mr Davis warned: “When such abuses of power occur, the offending parties, be they police officers or politicians, need to understand that there will come a day of reckoning for them as well.

“What goes around, comes around. And let me hasten to add that that is not a threat. It is an immutable law of the moral universe, one that is sometimes expressed in these words: when you set out to dig a grave for your enemy, dig two.

“Those who are committing these abuses should therefore understand they cannot do so with impunity. To use your own words: where you do wrong and abuse your position, there are consequences.”

Mr Davis wrote that while he believes crimes should be investigated when reasonably suspected, exonerating information should be taken into account during investigations.

“For example,” he wrote, “monies originally suspected of being a bribe may actually turn out to be perfectly lawful political donations made in the middle of a general election campaign.

“Where the facts lead to such a conclusion, it is not only irresponsible, it is, in fact, criminal to persist in pressing charges against the persons under investigation.”

Mr Davis also expressed concern that investigations have not been “free of political contamination.”

“Already, there are disturbing indications that political considerations may have influenced the manner in which these matters were handled,” Mr Davis wrote.

“Indeed, at least two senior members of your Cabinet have spoken publicly about these matters. One of them went so far as to inform the public last week to stay tuned because there are more to come—meaning more former ministers are being investigated and will likely be charged,” the July 18 letter noted.

“Who told him that? What was he told that gave him the confidence to publicly declare that the investigations will result in criminal prosecutions? Has the minister in question been in touch with the police on these matters? Has he received information from the police as to the quality and weight of the evidence they have, and the number of persons who are under investigation? If so, the minister has committed an egregious abuse of power for which is accountable.”

Mr Davis was likely referring to Health Minister Dr Duane Sands who said earlier this month the public will find a number of people brought before the courts “if the information that has been brought to us, in the opinion and findings of the commissioner of police, prove to warrant pressing charges.”

In his letter to Dr Minnis, which was also sent to Attorney General Carl Bethel and National Security Minister Marvin Dames, Mr Davis protested the treatment of the PLP politicians who have been in custody, including Mr Smith whom he felt should not have “spent a night in jail even after it had become unmistakably clear that there were no reasonable grounds for believing that he had committed any criminal offense whatsoever.”

Mr Smith, former executive chairman of the Bahamas Agricultural and Industrial Corporation, was arrested and held in police custody overnight in late May in connection with a theft probe from the government agency, police said at the time.

Eight other people were also arrested over the course of the investigation, however no one was ever charged.

Earlier this month, Assistant Commissioner Paul Rolle said police closed the investigation into the matter and found no evidence of wrongdoing.

Meanwhile Mr Davis also wrote that the handcuffing of one of the recently arrested PLP politicians flies in the face of the law. He said the politician’s reported admission into the general population of the prison was problematic. It showed “no concern whatever for the special security risks that this might pose for him so soon after a general election which you yourself have said has left many people filled with anger and hatred for former ministers of the PLP government,” he wrote.

He asked Dr Minnis to accept his invitation to meet “as soon as possible, as your convenience, to discuss how public confidence in our system of law and order and in the police as our impartial protectors can be better secured.”

The recent corruption probes have created tension between the two major political parties.

They have led the PLP to call into question the impartiality of the police force conducting the probes.

Damian Gomez, who served as state minister for legal affairs in the last Christie administration, said last week the Minnis administration should have waited until an autonomous anti-corruption agency, one whose supporting legislation should ensure there exists no incentive for its members to please the governing party over an opposition one, is established, rather than direct the police to create an anti-corruption unit within the force.

As a counter-action, Mr Gomez said the PLP may investigate what it suspects to be past corrupt activities by FNM politicians and submit its findings to the police for investigation.

Comments

BahamasForBahamians says...

Do you mean Hubert Minnis could be possibly charged for the conflict of interest with the stat care building ?

Do you mean Brent Symonette could get shackled for his conflict if interest at the airport authority that's Hubert Ingraham fired him for ?

Do you mean Vincent vanderpool
Can be arrested and tried for his malfeasance at the MOT under Hubert Ingraham?

Do you mean the guys like Frank Watson may actually go to jail for the BEC scam?

Will zhivargo Laing be jailed for the Mona Vie scandal?

Will Floyd will motts alleged payments to the FNM 2012 campaign be investigated as bribes for the contracts he had?

Wow... they ain't expect the coin to have two sides ?

Posted 24 July 2017, 9:22 a.m. Suggest removal

licks2 says...

Why not investigate these too. . .BUT HOW YINNA PLP CAN FIX YINNA MOUTHS TO SUGGEST ANYTHING ABOUT CRIME AND CORRUPTIONS. . .LETS GO AFTER THEM ALL!! INCLUDING THE LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION. . .

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:57 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

I am Bahamian.

If you're comment was directed to me, it is severely inaccurate from inception. I am not associated with any party.

Is it that anyone that opposes the group you support is automatically assumed to be PLP?

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:10 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Did someone not tell Hubert Minnis he would have to be in power as long as Pindling to exceed the statue of limitations that would exempt him from prosecution for his past actions in office?

Posted 24 July 2017, 9:26 a.m. Suggest removal

Tarzan says...

When will this poor land free itself of the defense "He did it so I can do it." If there was FNM corruption in the last government, let the police investigate and if they find crimes let them be prosecuted, but this laughable conflation of "conflicts of interest" with outright, brazen theft from the public treasury is risible. What was going on in the PLP government with the full knowledge if not complicity of Mr.Davis over the past five years was nothing short of an open, gangland style rape of the country and everyone who was present during the past three years of serial exposure of these outrages knows it.

Posted 24 July 2017, 9:43 a.m. Suggest removal

Well_mudda_take_sic says...

Mr. Davis has a very small mind indeed. We the people gave Minnis an overwhelming landslide victory in the last general election with the full expectation that his government would make good on the FNM's election campaign commitment to investigate the many likely instances of major fraud and outright theft that occurred during the five-year term of the last corrupt Christie-led government as a result of the abuse of public office and the public's trust by senior government officials, both elected and un-elected. Minnis knows full well his government is doing the right thing. If evidence exists to show crimes have been committed by past or current government officials, then let the chips fall where they may. We are a land under the rule of law that applies to all of us, including Mr. Davis, his political friends and his business cronies. Mr. Davis has nothing to fear if has not committed any crimes and everything to fear if he has. We the people are not interested in hearing his pleas for his political friends and cronies to be put above the law, and Minnis certainly has no interest in listening to his threats. Not only Minnis but the Commissioner of Police, Minister of National Security and the Attorney General should be taking great exception and appropriately reacting to Mr. Davis's clearly intended threats.

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:17 a.m. Suggest removal

Reality_Check says...

Davis does not seem to understand that threatening someone and then in the next breath saying no threat has been made or was intended does not in anyway take away or nullify the fact that the threat was made in the first place. Just who does Davis think he is telling Minnis (our PM) that he should not be so inclined to get ready to lie in his own grave??!!!! Minnis should table the letter he received from Davis at the next sitting of the House of Assembly so that the Speaker of the House can also take appropriate action.

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:50 a.m. Suggest removal

athlete12 says...

Hopefully the people lock up enough PLPs and FNMs to destroy both parties. The country is tired of this old story.

To davis, political donations and bribes are the same thing, the bigger check gets the favors.

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:25 a.m. Suggest removal

kairosmatt says...

That letter clearly shows Davis to be a guilty criminal, shows him playing like he is some kind of mafia don threatening violence and harm to people that uncover his mis deeds.

This man needs to be in jail and all his ill-begotten assets seized.

Don't care about the FNM/PLP thing, but Davis is nothing more than a criminal. Period. He is raping the country.

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:40 a.m. Suggest removal

OldFort2012 says...

The only point I might agree with is the placing of suspects in general population at the prison. It might indeed be dangerous. But there again, I have no idea what the facilities are like and if there is a reasonable alternative.
Everything else is pure horse-shit.

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:01 a.m. Suggest removal

TheMadHatter says...

....but it is the JAIL that they managed and made the way it is, and did not lift a finger to fix it. Now that some of their people might have to go up there and get boongied and taken to PMH to get their behind stitched up by a surgeon - they are suddenly worried and concerned about "security" at the prison.

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:39 p.m. Suggest removal

B_I_D___ says...

He's simply nervous...he's next!!

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:04 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Boy i cant wait til Brent has to answer to auditors about the 100million cost overruns on the road work.

Or Hubert has to speak on the handsome payouts to BTC execs to keep quiet when the fire sale was executed?

Or Ricky Mackey's stolen car?

Boy oh Boy.. The pandora's box is open.. Ya'lls (FNM and PLP better) start cleaning up..

The days of 20 year consecutive leadership is done.
The vast majority of the electorate (over the hill communities) are experiencing buyers remorse to the FNM government (we see it in the videos leaking into social media)
. The FNM supper-singer tribune commenters will say otherwise but collectively there's about 10 of you guys. Less than 0.1% of the electorate
So with that being said the likeliness of the PLP returning to government within the next 5 - 10 years seems very high.

I Hope Minnis and those are prepared.

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:12 a.m. Suggest removal

OMG says...

The amazing stupidity of some PLP supporters is astounding. There is one hell of a difference in a cost overrun (look at the new American carrier) and having money paid into a US account, or soliciting for all the generous contracts at Bahi mar, or the garbage collection racket or the allocation of most of the stores in Bahamar to a PLP family or lecturing people on how high the cost of electricity is when you don't pay your own bills, or loosing /wasting the countries money on bribes, unnecessary jobs (Baltron Bethel) and finally wasting all the VAT money and creating several generations of young Bahamians to foot the bill.

Posted 24 July 2017, 6:01 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

BahamasforBahamians must be a jilted PLP because he/she/it seems to be bitter with the progress that the FNM has made during its three terms in office .......... The PLP ruled the Bahamas from 1967 to 1992 (25 years) and for the first 10 it did well ....... the last 15 of SLOP and the 10 years of Perry were disastrous for this country ........ We are not going to hire Brave ......... So BFB sit small and shutup about which FNMs will be locked up from back in da day.

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:27 a.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Well ............. start your own party and run for government or be independent and holler in the breeze ........ Politicians run ALL democratic countries with the votes and lobbying power of their supporters ....... That is not going to change soon. We must ALL be involved and speak truth to power (politicians)

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:42 a.m. Suggest removal

licks2 says...

You sure you want to start ya dirty rowing around here. . .YOU START TO SOUND LIKE FRED MITCHELL THERE NOW. . .AND YOU ARE PLP. . .ONLY PLPS WILL SPEW THIS CHILDISH LINE OF DEFERENCE AT THIS POINT. . .

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:04 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Nope... I dont need any suggestions on what to do.. Clearly what I'm saying is being felt even if only by you two idiots. The emotional responses are proof.

You can defend your FNM party as much as you want. Time is longer than rope and this country is bigger than two parties.

With That being said. Continue to air out PLP's for their suspicion of criminal activity. But Brave or whomever may lead, please ensure Minnis, Brent, Mackey et al are all made to do the Perry Christie Shuffle at Nassau Street as well..

It would make for an extremely happy populace.

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:13 p.m. Suggest removal

DDK says...

Sour grapes!

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:39 p.m. Suggest removal

Well_mudda_take_sic says...

@BFB: You're an immature idiot and obviously have never heard the saying "two wrongs don't make a right". You believe because a blind eye was turned to corruption by senior government officials at anytime in the past then it should be similarly turned in every such instance in the future. In other words, by this sick line of reasoning, you would support our country and its people being saddled with oppressive corrupt governments forever more. What an arsehole you must be!

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:55 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

No, I think both sides need to be prosecuted. And I cant wait until the shoe is on the other foot.

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:13 p.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

bahamasforbahamians better known a birdiestrachan,just sit small and cut the bullshit.If you have an issue with Brent,Minnis and others,just lodge a complaint with the police and they will investigate. Until then just shut your pie hole spewing such crap

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:29 p.m. Suggest removal

lucaya says...

Stop meddling in Bahamian politics BFB, smt!

Posted 24 July 2017, 2:53 p.m. Suggest removal

jackbnimble says...

First of all in order for the PLP to return the favor don't they have to win the government first?

Secondly they are threatening to prosecute the former FNM government which means the current one only has to remain uncorrupted and the fools will never see power for the next ten years.

You know, the buck has to stop somewhere with all this corruption. I'm glad Dr Minnis is cleaning house and if he puts the proper legislation and policies in place, even firing or prosecuting his current team, then we he would not only have secured his legacy but we'll really know that governance is no longer about corrupt politicians lining their pockets with taxpayers' dollars but we'll also know government is really about helping and advancing the people who put you in place. After all it's what you were hired for.

I say full speed ahead! If they stole our money then prosecute away. After all it's the people's time!!

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:46 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Many holes in your response:

1) The FNM is not the government of The Bahamas forever. There is high buyers remorse already with the lack of performance by The FNM so 5 years will go much quicker than you think. Just look at how Marvin Dames is reneging on his crime promises and asking for more time.. People are noticing that his "promise to curb" crime was just words to solidy a seat in the house while our loved ones are murdered.

On the campaign trail for instance - a video was released by Marvin stating he had the recipe to combat crime from day one! Its day 70 something my brother!

2) Even if the current group goes uncorrupted, the FNM as a party has done enough in the past to be prosecuted until 2032 as the statue of limitations permit. If you are unsure on which charges, google Brent Symonette as chairman of the airport authority.

3) There is corruption going on as we speak. Ministry of Works have issued no tenders but Bahamas Hot Mix is already on the road patching things up (i.e JFK near MOW HQ).

So don't put your foot in your mouth.. Time is longer than rope lol.

Posted 24 July 2017, noon Suggest removal

licks2 says...

Yea. . .you is FM. . .hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .YOON MAKING NO SENSE THERE BUB!! Take a breather,. . .you making a fool of yasef and ya party. . .these peoples dem like they doc just fine out here. . .HATE FOR THE PLP IS WHAT IS GROWING. . .I DARE YOU TO WEAR ONE PLP SHIRT, STAND ON BAY STREET AND SAY THESE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING HERE. . .THE PEOPLE WILL PALY YOU WITH ROTTEN TOMATOES THERE FELLA!! OR WITH WORSE. . .YOU WILL GET SLAP OR SOMETHING!! THAT'S HOW BAD IT IS FOR YINNA PLP BANDITS OUT THERE!

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:11 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Fred Mitchell as BFB?????????? ........... No PLP politician should ever dare say those three words together in a sentence ever again!!!!!! .............. Shut Up!!!!!!!!!

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:15 p.m. Suggest removal

alfalfa says...

Any one guilty of extortion, bribery, stealing by reason of employment, receiving financial rewards unethically, be they PLP, FNM, DNA, or John Q Public, should be made to answer for their crimes. This Prime Minister has been the first with the balls to go after corrupt politicians, and has all and sundry soiling their underwear. Evidence determines prosecution; not speculation, and if there are any holding evidence against any politician, come forth. Or face charges yourselves. It's about time that this type of action was initiated, and only the guilty need worry. I, and the majority of the Bahamian people, are happy to see it, and want ALL corrupt officials to be investigated. Thank you DR. MINNIS.

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:14 p.m. Suggest removal

ARWallace says...

Proverbs 20
26 A wise king sifts out the wicked,
And brings the threshing wheel over them.

Proverbs 21
15 When justice is done, it is a joy to the righteous
but terror to evildoers.

Posted 24 July 2017, 9:46 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

WHEN WILL THE POLICE TAKE THE REAL BOSS HOG (BRAVE) INTO CUSTODY FOR INTERROGATION???????? ............ THEN HE CAN REALLY SQUEAL ABOUT BEING ILLEGALLY PROFILED BECAUSE HE WAS PART OF PERRY'S CABINET ......... BETTER STILL BRING BRAVE AND PERRY IN TOGETHER AND TIE THEIR NUTS TOGETHER AND LET THEM BREAK OFF RUNNING!!!!!!!!

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:18 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

This is all too familiar. Like 2007 when the FNM thought the PLP was finished...
LOL.

Ye of little memory shall be made to remember. As its been said before, the only case of conviction of corruption here in the Bahamas was an FNM Meritorious Council Member (Fred Ramsey) Google will assist you in looking him up. His custodial sentence was withheld and can constitutionally be imposed at anytime. There were also past FNM MP's implicated who's impunity can also be reneged at any time.

Given that: It is very important to ensure that Minnis and those think for the future.
(Its actually in my best interest that they don't. maybe then we'll see froggy paraded in front of the courts for practically 'freebasing' the cays in Abaco to imperialist thinkers who only want black people as house slaves)

It will be lovely day in The Bahamas when both sides of the coin is addressed.

Cant wait to see how Sir Roland's son will look in Criminal Court.

Or The Bain Town Boy who claims to be poor but St. Augustine's school fee was paid per annum (not per semester).

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:21 p.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

bfb for someone who is not a party person,you are sure carrying the plp water. birdiestrachan you have been exposed

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:34 p.m. Suggest removal

paul_vincent_zecchino says...

Sir,

Well said. Thank you.

Posted 24 July 2017, 11:08 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrades! When a PLP cabinet signs non-tendered contracts you people call for jailing the corrupted.. But when the red shirts cabinet issues non-tendered contracts to their own kinds - you define that as contracts the red cabinet deems must be kept 'Confidential' to protect the free reign business capitalist enjoy in the name the Free Enterprise Sovereignty the Bahamaland. It's a joke to tell 'the poor and the near poor' citizens that this '4th' regime of the red party has a damn thing to do with "It's the People's time."

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:26 p.m. Suggest removal

Tarzan says...

So Tal, what "non tendered contracts" has the Minnis Administration issued? Put up or shut up!
With you the defense is always, "Well we may be crooks but so are the others." Or even better, "Since Dr. Minnis has not cleaned up 40 years of unfettered corruption in government in five months, he's a total failure."

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:43 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrade Tarzan, my position on the future of the PLP is clear, so don't come on there to attempt to confuse things. But getting back to your point. From sounds it - there seems be millions dollars in Auditors Fees that were never tendered. Are you okay with Minnis's ignoring the June 30, 2017 deadline file Financial Disclosures.....yet the public are not being supplied with the names the offenders? Reality is that unless the red regime stops talking and start producing sustainable paycheques for the many thousands in urgent need them - the 'near poor' will soon join the ranks of the 'poor.'

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:56 p.m. Suggest removal

MassExodus says...

Fook Tal and the motherfooking PLP trash

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:36 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Well ........... The Jamaican Prime Minister just has to to answer for his big mansion that he got from foreign interests ........... Soooooooo, why should Perry and Shane dem not answer for the millions they have stashed or swindled as a result of their foreign connections???????

They holding Dorsett and Smith for squeezing a couple of dollars from contractors ....... but what about the inner circle of Perry's Cabinet that really benefitted from the last 5 years????? ........ Are ALL of those reports in The Punch just smoke and mirrors?????? ......... I have not heard ONE case of the PLP "pro bono lawyers" suing Mr. Johnson about those Punch stories ........ smh

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:37 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Lol This sheep must have some damning evidence.

And if you do, why haven't you presented this to the COP for investigation. You are basically obstructing justice by doing this and tantamount to criminal activity.

Nonetheless you guys should exhaust every option to air out the PLP as time is longer than rope and each sword has two sides. Please ensure when the shoe is on the foot you would've done all you can. lol.... not just trumped up charges that wont stick.

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:45 p.m. Suggest removal

John says...

With the level of corruption and wrong doings that has been exposed it would be a great travesty if no one gets punished. Davis must understand the subliminal message he is sending out when he lashes out at authorities for doing their jobs.

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:47 p.m. Suggest removal

SP says...

"Subliminal message" my peas & rice! This man is outright, blatantly lobbying and making threats for the protection of pirates and piracy!

Investigate **BRAVE TOO!**

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:41 p.m. Suggest removal

alfalfa says...

BamamasforBahamians I hate to question your knowledge of history, but the first case of a Politician being convicted of, and spending time in Fox Hill, was PLP MP Wilbert Moss, who was found guilty of trying to bribe a Judge. Has anyone figured out yet how the stolen BMW, driven by a Mr. Smith, got back to Fla., without any record. The FBI are anxiously searching. That could mean some US charges. More fodder for discussion.

Posted 24 July 2017, 12:48 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Wilbert Moss was never convicted. Provide your proof.

Also, the FBI was never involved. and the Miami Dade Police were thank for Deon's cooperation in returning the car. Where's Ricky's car?

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:12 p.m. Suggest removal

thephoenix562 says...

Nonsense.Wilbert Moss was convicted and spent time in prison.3 months

Posted 25 July 2017, 11:38 a.m. Suggest removal

baldbeardedbahamian says...

you are correct about Moss's conviction.. bfb is just not credible

Posted 25 July 2017, 1:17 p.m. Suggest removal

Well_mudda_take_sic says...

I bet you do; just can't understand why the cat had your tongue on the matter of prosecuting certain senior officials in the Christie-led government, even well before the last general election. Could it be that blind eye of yours was conveniently turned the wrong way for five years?

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:31 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

I advocated for The Christie administration to punish criminal red shirts while they were in government.

PGC did not. Hubert is doing so. And I trust that it will continue once the government changes.

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:33 p.m. Suggest removal

Sickened says...

BFB - well say that more often fool. You come off as though for every PLP minister arrested the police should also arrest an FNM and that until an FNM is arrested don't arrest anymore PLP's.

You should be normal and support the investigation and arrests of all corrupt officials no matter what party they are from.

Posted 25 July 2017, 1:24 p.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

well-mudda-take-sic BFB is birdiestrachan,dont fall for that fake name. How long have we been commenting on trhsi site all of a sudden BFB shows up and seems quite familiar with the inner workings. Go away birdie

Posted 24 July 2017, 1:39 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Who's this idiot that expects to control the comment list?

You should raise your concerns with the tribune. Have them close the registration to just you and your Peers.

Have them lock all opposers of your views out..

You idiot.

Posted 24 July 2017, 2:36 p.m. Suggest removal

MassExodus says...

Fook the motherfooking PLP! Fook every last Godforsaken motherfooking PLP! Let them all burn in hell! They have destroyed the good name of the Bahamas for their corruption and greed! God will burn them all in hell fire! Fook Birdie and BahamasForBahamians Motherfookers

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:42 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

This guy seems mad. Which one of the PLP's fooked your wife?

Posted 24 July 2017, 5:01 p.m. Suggest removal

Reality_Check says...

Now, now TalRussell....simmer down and be nice to @Banker.

Posted 24 July 2017, 5:43 p.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

well-mudda stay out of this please

Posted 24 July 2017, 7:37 p.m. Suggest removal

Sickened says...

None 'cause all the PLP's in power like man too much.

Posted 25 July 2017, 1:26 p.m. Suggest removal

Well_mudda_take_sic says...

Noted. Thanks

Posted 24 July 2017, 2:58 p.m. Suggest removal

We_doomed_242 says...

BFB gatta have some plp affiliate wringing her/him out lol cause there is no way someone justify the plp"s actions and stand so bold against others who already seen the light. Plp deep in ya flesh day and night

Posted 24 July 2017, 2:21 p.m. Suggest removal

Craig says...

It's quite simple, the PLP is terrified! If they did nothing they have nothing to fear. The fact that no charges made against Dion Smith proves that there is no witch hunt.

Posted 24 July 2017, 2:45 p.m. Suggest removal

alfalfa says...

Bahamas for Bahamians, Moss was convicted in 1989, forced to resign from politics, and a by election was held for his seat in 1990. This info is widely available on the net. Lets see what happens with Mr. Smith.

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:07 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrades! When one their own red shirts was accused then found guilty of taking bribes as a member of the BEC board during the Papa Hubert regime - not one red shirt called for him be jailed. In fact some top red shirts showed up in court during sentencing phase to stand before the judge to vouch as character references. Want their red names?
{ You just can't make this up }.

http://tribune242.com/users/photos/2017…

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:08 p.m. Suggest removal

PastorTroy says...

Well, I don't know of anyone with or without a law degree, if they read the story above, with snippets of an alleged letter from MOST RECENTLY (former) Deputy Prime Minister Of The Commonwealth Of The Bahamas will not consider that an arrogant AND blatant threat to the CURRENT sitting Prime Minister Of The Commonwealth Of The Bahamas, Senior LEO's, The Minister Of National Security and others! If the people (Bahamians who voted in election 2017) wrongly voted out your party sir, (the PLP), based on corruption lies told by the current Minnis administration, as a senior member (DPM) of the former ruling party who were/are privy to so much, who seem to be claiming there was no corruption in your past administration, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THREATENING (like them or not, vote for them or not) OUR LEADERS FOR?????? If DOCTOR, PM MINNIS, and his crew took us for a ride??? WE GON GET RIDDD AH DEM TOO!!

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:18 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Have the Police Special Investigations Department taken Brave in yet???? ...... Brave is planning Sedition against the present sitting Cabinet.

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:44 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrades! Why is it red shirts aim to shoot the messengers - but never answer to the facts behind the red lies? Clearly PM Minnis, had set a June 30, 2017 deadline for the filing Financial
Disclosures. You can't have the PM setting a deadline then ducking out on his promise to the people as in -" It's the People's time." Even the media knows the names those who did not file according to the PM's own June 30. 2017 deadline...but they tell the people, nothing.Comrades, this is why the People are watching this PM and his reds shirts cabinet members , MP's and Senators. You cannot silence the suspicions the People.

Posted 24 July 2017, 3:55 p.m. Suggest removal

ThisIsOurs says...

I'm not sure a letter was really required, and the wording seems very high school tit for tatty, but the underlying message that they're going to expose corrupt FNM's is fine by me. With the FNM taking care of the corrupt PLP's this couldn't have worked out better for people tired of wickedness in high places.

Posted 24 July 2017, 4:47 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrades! Let me put it this way. The red shirts cabinet is part of a much larger corrupt public society and by that measure alone - there will be corruption ahead for them. They will have to fail because the very foundation that supports them will fall around them. It's a simple politician's failure of which we haven't even began to address. Check back in another 100 years and only then can a new generation have rid themselves with replacing politicians with a new set of political parties politicians....But In the meantime- unless you want come down serious case red hemorrhoids - don't take their bait, or t-shirts. You Promise? If you want a trusted friend - go get a dog!

Posted 24 July 2017, 5:29 p.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

Where is birdie on this one. OOPs I forgot he/she posted under BFB sorry birdie

Posted 24 July 2017, 7:39 p.m. Suggest removal

SP says...

OPPOSITION Leader Philip “Brave” Davis obviously condones piracy and needs himself to be forensically investigated post haste!

This man is so inherently corrupt he doesn't recognize his words are actually an impassioned plea for PM Dr. Minnis to join the PLP oligarchy in corruption, pillage, plunder and looting of the country.

**NO THANKS "BRAVE"**

The electorate has **P-R-A-Y-E-D L-O-N-G & H-A-R-D** for decades for deliverance from the corruption, pillage, plunder and looting suffered under UBP, PLP and FNM administrations. We are sick and tired of **ALL OF Y'ALL** and would like nothing more than PM Dr. Minnis to carry on with GOD speed in the pursuit of pirates that have destroyed our country and decimated our people!

Thank you, PM Dr. Minnis, for auditing our countries affairs, weeding out those guilty of corruption, and setting the country on a REAL progressive path to restoring investor confidence.

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:35 p.m. Suggest removal

SP says...

PM Dr. Minnis should have NO MEETING WITH **P**illage **L**oot **P**lunder first mate Davis!

Posted 24 July 2017, 10:46 p.m. Suggest removal

BMW says...

Check his involvement in a fire station that is yet to open. Short stubby greasy and grubby is shitting his pants waiting for the call!

Posted 25 July 2017, 5:35 a.m. Suggest removal

SP says...

**"Davis Lashes Out Over Plp Arrests"..... Unabridged Translation**

Someone already under forensic investigative scrutiny for corruption, extortion, and tiefin threatened to expose everybody else involved in the whole sordid story of PLP corruption live and in living color if Brave dem don't put a stop to these damning investigations!

The electorate will not accept surrender, Mr. Davis!

Just how you fools legislated harsh laws for the people, YOU GUYS need to face the music and deal with them too.

Posted 25 July 2017, 8:58 a.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Did the COP bring in Perry, Shame, Fitzie and Brave yet??????? ....... If not, why not???????
Where is the report on V Alfred Gray that the COP was to prepare and release?????
Where are the reports on the Post Office and RTD teefin cases???????
Where is the Report on the Report of the Rubis spill???????
Where is the BOB $100million report????????
Where is the Stellar Waste LOI and Dump Big Blaze report?????
Where is the report on the BPL fuel teefin ring????????
Where is the report(s) on the school and furniture procurement contracts?????
Where is the report on the Cat Island $14million clinics contracts????????
Where is the new Blue Hill Post Office bungling report?????????
Where is the $30 million sidewalks giveaway report?????????
Where is the unfinished baseball stadium report???????
Where is the lack of accountability/reports for $30 million Carnival giveaways??????

This COP has a lot to answer for before we send him on his way to somewhere?????? ....... There is no need for the COP to protect Brave and his minions now.

Posted 25 July 2017, 9:54 a.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

NOW WAYNE MUNROE IS COMPILING A FNM HIT-LIST (FROM INGRAHAM'S CABINET) FOR THE COP TO INVESTIGATE ........... WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!
IS THIS WHAT OUR POLICE & JUSTICE SYSTEM HAVE COME TO NOW??????

WE NOW HAVE TIT-FOR-TAT & WHO WILL BLINK FIRST POLITICS ..... NOT GOOD

Posted 25 July 2017, 10:13 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Are you suggesting that justice should only occur on side of the political spectrum?

Should Brent Symonette not be charged for the conflict of interest that Hubert Ingraham fired him for? This was in 2007 which means by law it is still an offense that can be prosecuted in court.

Posted 25 July 2017, 10:51 a.m. Suggest removal

BMW says...

that rummy needs to sit small!

Posted 26 July 2017, 5:16 a.m. Suggest removal

Voltaire says...

BahamasForBahamians is a paid for PLP mouthpiece, clearly. Either that, or he/she can't understand the difference between conflict of interest and EXTORTION [here is a clue - only one of them is a crime]. Every single case you mentioned regarding the FNM was an alleged conflict of interest and therefore the police have no business getting involved. So, either you are a sell-out poser troll or a downright idiot, take your pick.

Posted 25 July 2017, 11:36 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Using a political office for personal advantage or for a conflict of interest is criminal you low life retard. The police should deal with all criminal matters, as far back the statue of limitations allows!

Posted 25 July 2017, 12:34 p.m. Suggest removal

Voltaire says...

Really? Under what law? As far as I knew, conflict of interest is outlined in the Manual of Cabinet Procedure, which is a manual, and not legally binding. That is why Allyson Maynard can't be prosecuted for her Baha Mar conflict, why Jeromie the Homie can't be prosecuted for begging Sarkis when he was in charge of the Baha Mar negotiations, etc. Go on tough guy...what law?

Posted 25 July 2017, 3:43 p.m. Suggest removal

MaLambee says...

BFB is right.... all of the corrupt FNM's need to be investigated also. Their hands are not clean. Please continue to investigate and jail the PLP's who are guilty. Clean the country up. ALL....Let them rot in jail....

Posted 25 July 2017, 11:46 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

ALL of them. Both Sides.

Posted 25 July 2017, 12:33 p.m. Suggest removal

licks2 says...

My my my my. . .look what the PLP send here to state its case. . .BFB. . .what a dang joke. . .they making the party really look like its full of uneducated persons. . .and Fred I know you smarter than this dumb nonsense you spewing out here!! And as for BD and DS who talked about going to the USA to duck persecutions here. . .THEM AMERICANS DRIBBLING AT THE MOUTHS TO "HAVE" THEM TWO COME OVER FOR A LIL SIT DOWN!! THEY HAVE PLENTY "CHIT CHATS" TO DO WITH BD. . .AND THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TALK TO THEIR LIL GOOD FRIEND DS ABOUT ONE STOLEN CAR HE HAD IN HIS POSSESSION. . .AND WHEN IT WAS FOUND OUT. . .THE CAR "SWAM" BACK TO FLORIDA AND PARKED ITSELF SIDE THE ROAD. . .BBB WILL NEED TO "GO SEE HIS FRIENDS" THE AMERICANS TOO ABOUT THE CAR THAT DS TOLD HIM ABOUT. . .THEN SWAM BACK TO FLORIDA!!

Posted 25 July 2017, 11:58 a.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

Lol I'm uneducated according to you, but my education is not lacking enough to accept your words as official reprensentation of the US government.

The Americans have actually concluded any investigation involving Deon Smith.

Ricky Mackey is one that they would like to see for questioning about the car. His stolen car is still located at Harbor Island.

Your perpetual comments in direct response to my postings speak more about you .. you're going out of your way to respond to a "dang joke". Must've hit a nerve huh? Lol...!

Posted 25 July 2017, 12:39 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Wayne Munroe is going out and seeing if he can get Minnis to stand down ....... He is talking about Ingraham, Brent, Vargo, Tommy, Old Frank, Minnis etc. who had "cases" involving contracts or indiscretions involving them during their terms in office ...... This is more PR blackmailing than real threats ......... BLACKBALLING ......... Minnis, please stand FAST!!!!!!!

Posted 25 July 2017, 12:01 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

"All of those who have done something criminal will have something to fear"
The words of Minnis will come to hunt his past parliamentary colleagues.

I'm sure Frank Watson is shitting balls right now.

Brent and Craig Symonette are as well..
The rape on the public purse has been prevalent on both sides of the spectrum and in a few days we will it is not as one sided as they would like it to appear ;)

Speak up Frank Watson!
Speak up Vincent Vanderoolpool Wallace!
Speak Up Zhivargo "Monavie" Laing!
Speak up Ed Curling, Hubert Ingraham's Bag man!.

Posted 25 July 2017, 12:42 p.m. Suggest removal

Sickened says...

I heard Shame is squealing and that's why Brave/Scared them so nervous. I LOVE IT!! It's finally happening after all these years.

Posted 25 July 2017, 1:32 p.m. Suggest removal

Voltaire says...

Shane is squealing?? Really???

Posted 25 July 2017, 3:45 p.m. Suggest removal

baldbeardedbahamian says...

God gave this country to thr Rrt Hon Hubert Minnis led FNM. Those who oppose will suffer. I learnt this fact from PLP pastors during Swindling's time so it must be true. Personally I would pay good money to be able to watch the shameless gibbon in the dock.

Posted 25 July 2017, 5:55 p.m. Suggest removal

baldbeardedbahamian says...

What happened to Birdie? is she out on the golf course again?

Posted 25 July 2017, 5:56 p.m. Suggest removal

SP says...

DON'T ASK....she might return with more cow dung!

Posted 26 July 2017, 7:41 p.m. Suggest removal

BMW says...

I am happy we have a PM that is not a lawyer, you see him cleaning house. This is what the country needed.

Posted 26 July 2017, 5:24 a.m. Suggest removal

SP says...

The only solution for **P**illage **L**oot **P**lunder - Blame erryting on the **rake & scrape!**

Lol....

Posted 28 July 2017, 7:52 a.m. Suggest removal

baldbeardedbahamian says...

Bahamas for Bahamians has posted that Wilbert Moss was never convicted. Provide your proof..
This is just wrong and a typical PLP attempt to rewrite history using the formula that if you say something enough people will start to believe it. Do not take seriously anything else posted by BahamasforBahamians, like birdiestrachan they are almost certainly being paid by the PLP to push out an agenda of lies.
zWilbert Moss was convicted and jailed.

Posted 1 August 2017, 9:31 a.m. Suggest removal

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