Miller says 'do it now' over death penalty plans

By NICO SCAVELLA

Tribune Staff Reporter

nscavella@tribunemedia.net

FORMER Tall Pines MP Leslie Miller on Friday praised National Security Minister Marvin Dames for having the "guts" to announce the Minnis administration's plans to push for the enforcement of the death penalty, as he called on the government to "do it, and do it now."

Mr Miller, a longtime supporter of capital punishment, said he is totally behind Mr Dames' previous announcement, further congratulating Mr Dames and the Minnis administration for "having the tenacity and the wherewithal to do what is necessary on behalf of the Bahamian people".

The firebrand Progressive Liberal Party politician further encouraged the Minnis administration not to be "concerned" with the backlash its stance on capital punishment could have on the country, particularly that of the international community, as he asserted: "They don't face the carnage that we face."

"We face it therefore we got to deal with it," Mr Miller told The Tribune on Friday just hours after a man was found shot to death in Mason's Addition. "It's our problem. If it's a Bahamian problem it got to be a Bahamian solution. The solution is, you take a life yours gone, unless in special circumstances. But this is just gutless murdering and these people got to stop, man. And I'm with him 1,000 per cent.

"He could depend on my support. In and out, he could depend on me."

Last week, Mr Dames said the Minnis administration will use everything on the law books, including capital punishment, to make The Bahamas safe for "law-abiding citizens." At the time, Mr Dames said the Minnis administration cannot tolerate a "lawless society" and said it is the government's job to "introduce new policies and to enforce old ones to make sure everyone is safe."

"I am totally and 100 per cent with him," Mr Miller said when questioned on the matter. "I want to congratulate him on having the guts to appreciate the fact that these fellas would take a life in an instant with no sorrow, no conscience, no nothing, because they know that when they take a life, they gone go to Fox Hill prison, might, and 70 per cent of them walk free.

"Therefore, they take the law into their own hands and do as they please. If this guy knows that his life is going to be taken, he ain't gone do it. You know nobody wants to die. But they don't mind taking your life and my life. I'm happy and I congratulate the minister for having the tenacity and the wherewithal to do what is necessary on behalf of the Bahamian people.

"It is long, long overdue," Mr Miller added. "And I trust that they will push this and get it done. It's on the books, you just got to have the guts to enforce it. It has to be done."

Reflecting on the recent spate of homicides in New Providence, Mr Miller asked: "Where we headed? This is a precipice and we headed down there at a thousand miles an hour."

In January, while his party was in power, Mr Miller blamed "gutless politicians" for the increases in murders and serious crimes in the country. At the time, Mr Miller said many of his parliamentary colleagues were "afraid to implement the laws on the books".

He urged Bahamians to vote for persons who will "carry out the death penalty" and "send everyone else packing".

The following month, Prime Minister Dr Hubert Minnis, then in opposition, said unless the then-government is willing to enforce the death penalty, "criminals will continue to ravage our country and keep citizens in fear." Dr Minnis said the country is losing the battle to the criminal element and "more serious measures" need to be taken.

And last year, Dr Minnis insisted that the necks of "murderous scumbags" in the country must be "popped" as he castigated the former Christie administration for failing "miserably" in its obligation to keep Bahamians safe.

Reflecting on this statement, Mr Miller said he is "happy to see the minister of national security has the guts to at least say the right thing".

"And the prime minister said he was with it," Mr Miller added, referring to his and Dr Minnis' previous calls for the death penalty to be enforced. "When I was in Parliament (Dr Minnis) and I were the two lone wolves in there saying we're with it. Now he has an opportunity to make it come to fruition and I trust that it happens. They got the numbers to do it, so the ball is in their court now. Let's just do the right thing.

"Do the right thing man. Do it, and do it now, and we'll see a total de-escalation of crimes and killings in our country."

A 2006 decision by the London-based Privy Council, the Bahamas' highest court of appeal, quashed the country's mandatory death penalty for murder convicts, which it said was unconstitutional.

In 2011, the Privy Council also said the death penalty should only be given in cases where the offence falls into the category of the "worst of the worst."

That same year, the Ingraham administration made changes to the Penal Code to set out the criteria for the types of murders that would attract a discretionary death penalty after conviction.

The law changes made it so a person convicted of killing a member of the Royal Bahamas Police Force (RBPF), Royal Bahamas Defence Force (RBDF), Department of Customs, Department of Immigration, the judiciary or correctional services would be eligible for the death penalty.

Someone convicted of killing someone during a robbery, rape, kidnapping or terrorist act would also fall into this category.

No one has been hanged since the amendments were passed into law.

Comments

Well_mudda_take_sic says...

In addition to the hardcopy readers of The Tribune, all of us posting comments on a regular basis to The Tribune web site need to ask ourselves: Why is it The Tribune persists in giving people like Leslie Miller, George Smith, James Smith, Loftus Roker and so on a public voice? It certainly does seem The Tribune is more than willing to lower its standard of journalism to make a quick and easy buck rather than incur the costs of good investigative journalism that would produce real news for the benefit of our society.

Posted 31 July 2017, 4:52 p.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

I was going to make this exact point myself.
I think I am about done with The Tribune.
The state of The Bahamas, it's lawlessness and corruption exists precisely because we have listened to and voted for people like Leslie Miller.
I cannot think of a worse person to have as a "voice" for the country.
People like him are exactly the reason The Bahamas is in the state it is in.
From not paying bills, to loans that the people now have to pay, to his remarks about women, to his views on capital punishment.
Miller represents about the worst we have to offer.
People like him want a quick fix to a generational problem that the likes of him helped create.
He should be in the wilderness, not front and center of a decent society.

Posted 1 August 2017, 6:40 a.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

Is the Potcake the unofficial Tribune spokesman for the PLP????? ..... It seems that way

Posted 31 July 2017, 4:54 p.m. Suggest removal

BahamasForBahamians says...

I'm not sure if there is an issue with the tribune soliciting responses from the personalities you guys have mentioned.

They've all offered themselves, in some cases at an executive level, for service in the country.

Whether they are your preferred personalities to be interviewed is not of any relevance to the Tribune and its revenues, but what gives you guys the gall to come on their comments and complain about who gets a chance to speak to the reporter.

Its almost as if you guys did not choose to come here and read the responses. If you are the least bit displeased with who the Tribune chooses to interview, its common sense to discontinue coming here...

Wth?

Posted 31 July 2017, 5:03 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

I am not against the Tribune interviewing these old PLP farts .......... I am amused at the fact that the Tribune does not seek to obtain OR rely on the official releases from the political party in question ....... You are too thin-skinned to comment here

Posted 31 July 2017, 5:13 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrade SheepRunner, isn't restricting press freedom what they do in Communist countries like Cuba, China & Russia?

Posted 31 July 2017, 5:54 p.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

Some of us actually wish for a better Bahamas.
EVERYONE in The Bahamas, serves The Bahamas, in their own capacity.
Show me a selfless politician, who works for free, always for the people.
Or, any other Bahamian who ranks ABOVE the others, for their "service"
Stop the BS.
Your excuses for the status quo wear thin.
I may quit reading the Tribune just to be free of your lame comments.

Posted 1 August 2017, 6:45 a.m. Suggest removal

Economist says...

The death penalty won't stop the murders.

Europe Union does not have the death penalty, the United States does. Texas alone has executed some 500 since the death penalty was reinstated.

See were the most murders are committed European Union vs USA.

Posted 31 July 2017, 5:19 p.m. Suggest removal

sirD says...

Hang them "NOW"!, Do it live on TV. Show those that do the crime get what they deserve. Watch them twitching at the end of a rope.

Posted 31 July 2017, 5:49 p.m. Suggest removal

baldbeardedbahamian says...

I agree with Economist, State sanctioned killing of convicted murderers does not reduce the incidence of same/ If someone can point me to a credible study that shows otherwise then I will reconsider my position. Imagine the consequences if someone like Fred Mitchell held the power of life or death over you. Miller had a son living in his house who was stupid enough to cheat the people he was dealing drugs with. They killed him in a more than usually gruesome way as a warning to others. No one wanted to risk their lives by identifying those responsible and so no one was ever prosecuted. Miller chooses to advocate for the death penalty out of a need for revenge. He would do better to warn our youth to stay away from the easy money that the drug business offers. Bradley Roberts also had a son living at home with him who was killed while flying a shipment of illegal drugs into the Bahamas. He too could have used his time to warn people away from the trade.

Posted 31 July 2017, 6:19 p.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

All good points.
Thanks.

Posted 1 August 2017, 6:46 a.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrades! Keep this Fox Hill Death Chamber picture focused in your mind's.

http://tribune242.com/users/photos/2017…

Posted 31 July 2017, 6:24 p.m. Suggest removal

sheeprunner12 says...

The enlightened First World countries are slowly dying from their libertarian views on drugs, sexuality, media, immigrants, schooling and crime .......... We need to protect our own Bahamian heritage and civilization ........... Let us protect our religious views on the penalty for murder

Posted 31 July 2017, 6:53 p.m. Suggest removal

Emilio26 says...

Shepprunner12 it seems like the Bahamas is turning into another Jamaica with our high murder rate.

Posted 7 April 2021, 8:17 a.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

Comrade SheepRunner12, when it comes to protecting our native heritage and culture - how can we protect when we allowed our government to give up on Junkanoo for Trinidadian Kanaval.... and from sounds it - Kanaval 2018, is already well underway by the red shirts regime.

Posted 31 July 2017, 7:13 p.m. Suggest removal

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