This is a disgrace. God is watching.

I disagree.

The illegal part of his deportation was that there was no court order. He is claiming that he is Bahamian and has produced certain documents to prove it. He has a case. It might be strong, it might be weak, it might be non-existent but he has a case that a judge should examine. He is entitled to his day in Court.
He now has been brought back as per Court ruling. He will now have a chance to argue against his deportation as an illegal immigrant in front of a Court.
As a suspected illegal immigrant, he is subject to arrest. He was properly arrested and charged. Bail will be decided on, then a trial date will be set.

This is perfectly normal and exactly what I would have done. In this case, I would commend the Government for doing what is legal and logical.

Good sensible advice, I think.

His lawyer is acting the fool and playing "not by the rules". . .he will only make it worse for the man. . .YALL ASK THAT THIS CASE IS PLAYED BY THE RULE OF LAW. . .HERE IT IS. . .RULE OF LAW!!

We have to follow the law

Ma Comrade AG Carl Wilshire's move resulting in the "re arrest" and detainment of Jean Rony, may be seen as an assault against the constitution that could just turn Jean Rony, into the Bahamaland's first internationally recognized political prisoner. I wouldn't be shocked hear an angry loud cry from the international community at-large calling massive tourism boycott? Influential investors with public shareholders my want to shy away or postpone planned investments.

The issue is much larger than Jean Rony now. Political prisoner? Give me a break. There are still questions surrounding his legal documents and he was in fact residing and working illegally in the Bahamas. The real blow to the constitution would have been to actually abide by the justice's illegal ruling without challenge. The government is now only trying to save face because they were at first, blindly accepting of and its future implications.

I WON'T EVEN TRY TO REASON WITH YOU. . .

I agree there’s something much bigger at play. If this nonsense goes through every anchor baby would be running around the Bahamas like they suddenly the shi*.! What kind of message are we sending? That you can run around our country without papers just because you’re born here and the Bahamas government cannot touch you? Give me a damned break!

This goes against the so-called rule of law that Freddy boy dem always piggy backing on

Hope this ruling is quickly overturned!!!

Forget about all this talk about illegal and legal, Anyone who doesn't have a problem with the maltreatment and imprisonment of another human who has not been charged with any crime is sick.. After all it is not a crime to be born, except one is born to Haitians in the Bahamas. Don't waste time debating me, and please don't try to insult me(especially that sick bastard Sheeprunner), because none of you own the Tribune. To issue a document and place a guy under arrest or detention or what they choose to call it is sickening. You guys seem to think you operate in isolation. Thank God that even in the Bahamas, judges are not politicians. When the good judge comes home from church and finds out who defied his order, and some of those jokers are arrested...

You guys could have let Rony return and let it slide, but no, a whole can of worms has been opened, which will probably allow a precedent to be set. Is that what you all want.

He has been charged with a crime: being an illegal immigrant.

Where should they have put him up? In Baha Mar?

The Judge's order has been respected to the full. He is back. Now the process of determining his status can commence. If he is found innocent, he will receive citizenship and compensation. If guilty, he will be deported. What exactly upsets you?

Yes, we want people to abide by the constitution or work toward having it ammended. We cannot have vigilante justices and QCs applying their own rules, and making a mockery of the court system based on their personal beliefs or financial gain.

Jean Rony Jean Charles born in 1982 or 1985 is a Haitian who was allegedly born in the Bahamas, and he is not above the law. He needs to have his day in court where the laws are unbiasedly applied. And when the message is sent that birthright status is not the law and third party affadavits are not enough to identify someone...the minister or whatever immigration committee can then decide on his status.

JUST STEP BACK FROM THE EMOTIONAL TIRADE. . .ITS CALL RULE OF LAW. YOU ROW ABOUT ONE JUDGE"RULING" BEING IGNORED AS AN INJUSTICE. . .WHILE ASKING US TO DISREGARD THE EMERGENCY STAY "RULING" OF ANOTHER JUDGE? THAT'S HOW THEM COOKIE CRUMBLE DUDE. YINNA WERE ASKING FOR A COURT APPEARANCE BEFORE DEPORTATION. . .NOW THAT'S WHAT YA GETTING AND YA MAD!

Ma Comrades, the red state was stretching the law the first time when arresting Jean Rony whilst out buy single cigarette. This time they just may have a political prisoner in their custody and without availing him his free movement this time go looking buy his single cigarette. When held against your will by the state it's called imprisonment. The red state cannot clam not be complicit in his arrest this time around, in fact, it is pretty damn clear that accept for donning the director of immigration's uniform - AG Carl Wilshire lead the arrest. This is what you'd have expected to read about a Robert Mugabe or Fidel Castro state. This bunch shirts must really believe they are indeed crown members of an Imperial red colony's cabinet. Think if they can restrict free movement of a Jean Rony, then why not your freedom?

You're the one stretching by labeling him a political prisoner. He is an illegal who got caught on a routine patrol. Immigration officers have the right to question, arrest and detain anyone suspected of living illegally in the country. The only thing they did wrong was not take him to court. But tomorrow he will have his day in court.

Ma Comrade My2cents,you're one one stretching to make the wrong narrative fit the facts which is not the size in this case. In fact, your shoe size is three sizes off. Ouch!

lovely. 10 out of 10 and a gold star.

Tal, please stop sensationalizing this matter and go to church! Oh and stop delving in things you really don't understand 😂😂😂

Ma Comrade Emac, done in church here courtesy ZNS TV online singling along with choir and spirit charged congregation Zion Baptist - just waiting receive morning sermon to renew my spirit take on this Imperial red state operating outside freedom go about buy single cigarette law.
Comrade Emac, their call-in prayer line confess your sins is 325-3556/1.
Good morning Churches across we Bahamaland!

LMAO...

waiter, i will have what tal is drinking. thanks.

Even lovelier.

I would have had a chance to see TalRussell live on ZNS today ....... but ZNS was scrambled on my island ....... Lord Jesus, help Tommy solve ZNS problems!!!!!!!

Once again we have proven to the world what we are as a people and a country.

We deserve our reputation, it's well earned.

I am glad he is back in the Bahamas and I would have liked to see him return to his"normal" life. Hopefully his documents are found to be in order and he can be released.

**However** I also understand where the government is coming from. Had they done nothing they would have been inundated with thousands of applications and they would have no legal out.

If the government is interested in rectifying this problem they need to call a referendum to correct the loophole currently being exploited. I'm 100% confident that none of the drafters of the constitution intended for the children of illegal immigrants to be granted citizenship simply because they were born in the Bahamas. We cannot continue to allow people to hide in the country for 18 years or more then claim they know no other country.

If the international community is willing to give the Bahamas the billions necessary to stop the illegal immigration tidal wave and support the overburdened education and health care system then and only then can they ask us to do otherwise. Businesses are closing, people are losing jobs, unemployment is increasing and we are at junk status. Unfortunately you cannot help a drowning man by drowning yourself.

What is the loophole you are referring to???????? ........ Where does it say in our Constitution that you can "hide out in our country for 18 years" and then become a citizen?????? ......... You must have a birth certificate, a MOH yellow card, a school record and showing that you can contribute positively to the country as a potential citizen ......... Except someone may sell it under the table ......... and then it is corruption & national betrayal

Clearly it doesn't matter if that language is in the constitution or not. Mr Symonette has already told you they are processing applications, I'm going to get these are not applications from persons who've left and gone back to Haiti when their parent's work permits expired.

There is really no loop hole. . .and a referendum is what Mr. Smith is trying his hardest to avoid. . .HE WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT QUESTION TO GO BEFORE THE COURT. . .HE WILL GET A RULING THAT EVEN THE PC WILL NOT CHANGE! HE HAS NO CASE. . .HIS BIG MOUTH AND A POOR RULING BY AN ACTIVIST JUDGE HAS GOTTEN ALL OTHER PERSONS IN MR RONY'S CASE TO GET FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET!!

I see in the news that the Canadian Gov is discussing blocking Bahamians from immigrating /visiting for education to Canada as a response to our actions.

Guess the world really is watching.

Well not actually the government, but some members of parliament and public suggesting blocking Bahamian immigration to Canada., But either way it's the same thing.

Canada is being glorified as one of the most "advanced" countries in the world ....... but it is indeed a great ambassador for Satan ....... the Canadian government has embraced everything that is contrary to The Bible ...... How can we continue to serve God and mammon??????? ........ We must choose whom we are to serve ........... Canada cannot be chosen as a real born again Christian's eternal (or earthly) home.

Canadian citizens are also trying hard to figure out how to house and feed all the Haitians that illegally crossed into Canada, running from Trump. Haitians have been advised there that deportations will start soon. It's too overwhelming for Canadians.

To that I would say, they have the land and the jobs, can we set up a treaty with them where instead of repatriating illegal immigrants to Haiti we can send them to Canada. I'm almost positive the community would be willing to go

Source???

DIG INTO CANADA'S IMMIGRATION CASES WITH HAITIANS. . .ALL ARE SENT BACK POST HAST. . .LET THEM MPS TALK. . .CANADA DOES THE VERY SAME THING. . .THEY WILL NOT EVEN ALLOW IMMIGRANTS CHILDREN ATTEND SCHOOL IF THEIR PARENTS ARE ILLEGAL OR IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING STRAIGHT!

They have a policy to deport irregulars, so they will rebrand Haitian illegals as irregulars and send them home....to Haiti..

This Ma Comrades will be recorded in the nation's history books as the weekend which the red state publicly acknowledged that they are the not the party of children's born at Princess Margaret Hospital... that travel at your own peril when doing so on a now declared useless Red State Travel Document.

Israel is deporting Africans. Watsayu?

In the main time the country is still waiting to see charges brought against the 30 persons arrested a week ago.

Noe who are we to believe, Mr. Fred Smith or the Hon. Carl Bethel? I know which one I am inclined to believe and hopefully the truth will emerge in the fullness of time. What charge was he arrested on anyway? Illegal entry to the country via his mother's womb?

Why did the government wait so long too call for an emergency stay. An emergency stay should have been requested before the travel document was issued. It makes us look backwards as a country. Is his travel document valid or not valid. When a person comes on a flight and you deem him illegal or undesirable, you put him on the plane and send him back from where he came.You don't put him in a detention center. The situation has become political and politics always leads to mischief.

This is the only comment close to sensible. Of course, people have their concerns and or biases and must live with that. However, it's disingenuous to prepare a document, let a guy get a ticket, then arrest the guy.

This can only be construed as being malicious and malice is never a good thing where international relations are concerned. There was a Jamaican fellow who lived in England since the 60's but never sorted his post-independence paperwork. He came home for a vacation after 50 years and found out he wasn't British. Anway after a newspaper appeal the British sorted him out, gave him documents and allowed him in. The link. The circumstances are different, however, the point is, don't issue an emergency document you don't intend to honor. The plight of a Haitian I guess. Their government does nothing to help prevent abuse of its citizens(Though this fellow is stateless). Their foreign ministry should not have allowed him to depart without an assurance he would be allowed entry. http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/GOT…

You know this is a different issue than being born in a country to parents who are illegal WHEN their birth country gives you AUTOMATIC citizenship in their country! There is no comparison. You are simply attempting to stir up mischief!

The only fair comparison in your little story is that both men were negligent in their duties to sort out their citizenship. Jean-Rony Jean-Charles is not stateless. He is an automatic Haitian citizen who was possibly born in the Bahamas or arrived as a child, the latter of which means he was not even entitled to apply for citizenship. It also explains why he provided false information to authorities and can't seem to remember his DOB.

Secondly, if countries with much more resources can get it wrong sometimes then so can the Bahamas. This is how the process gets improved.

Clearly the FNM's plan was not to contest the ruling just like they failed to verify the questionable affidavit of their colleague, and had the AG himself defend the sketchy document. Perhaps the new director of immigration is as non-nonsense and by the book as they say. Only time will tell. The Outspoken QC must have known in advance when his client intended on travelling to Nassau and yet he chose to inform the AG while he was enroute? Not before hand? I am inclined to believe that the QC attempted to pull a fast one.

Was this a case of bait and switch? Where government appears to rich to appease the rulings of the courts. Then as ‘the victim ‘ is on his way ‘home’, government does an about face and puts this man in detention center as a person without status. Just consider the psychological an emotional effects this must have on this man Rony. To be held by immigration for so long in the first instance. Then to have his documents rejected. Then to be expelled from The Bahamas and dumped in a strange and undesirable place. Then to be located after months af despair and lost hope. And to get news and a promise that he will be returning to the only country he knows and will be, at least regularised. Now only to be returned to the detention camp, seemingly where the saga started and again facing the possibility of being expelled again . The thing to bear in mind is if children are born in the Bahamas to illegals it is through no fault of their own. And if the authorities allow these children to stay in the country for 18, 20, even 35 years, The Bahamas makes itself more responsible for creating this problem of persons without status.. So they must either decide to deport these people as infants or small children back to the country of their parents so the children can adapt and adjust to the conditions and culture of that country. If not, and these individuals are allowed to stay in The Bahamas until they reach ages of maturity then Government makes itself responsible for granting some status to them.

'Where the government appears to rush to appease..."

On the flip side of this coin, we are researching a few questions that government is attempting to keep covered.

Why aren't Bahamians being told that Haitians are responsible for the large outbreak of tuberculosis infections gripping the country, and how to protect themselves?

Who is the ring of hospital employees caught selling thousands of false birth documents to Haitians, were they fined, and is this what Brent Symonnett alluded to last week?

So far our findings are NOT GOOD!!

How can hospitals sell false birth certificates. Doesn't the Bahamas have a computerized Registrar system for births, deaths and marriages?

SP..you must stop being ingenious. False news does not help the cause

If you search you will find that story somewhere on this site. But I'm not surprised you didn't know, it died down very quickly. I can only assume no one was prosecuted, and no certificates being rescinded.

We are protective of our borders for the same reason you have a door on your home, to keep out those you don't want in! Your house may be nasty inside, but you still have a right to decide who comes through your doors!

Simple!

SO PLEASE TELL WHY "YA PEOPLE" KEEP COMING HERE. . .TO A LAND OF DISGRACE? IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE RULE OF LAW JUST SAY SO!

What an ignorant tirade. No country is perfect. You can always find reasons to be proud and reasons to be ashamed. The Bahamian gene pool is already quite diverse, including mixing with Haitians. Many of whom sit on their illegal hinds and can’t even be bothered to get their papers straight. Like many Bahamians they expect the government to do everything, like rebuild their illegal shacks. And it is bad enough when Bahamians feel that way, but illegal immigrants? However, I agree that the average Haitian is probably much better than you. Haitians don’t blast their shith@le of a country when things don’t go their way. They fly their failed flags high right through the garbage that they allow to pile up in their illegal communities. You could learn a lot from them since that is what you admire so much.

What’s really stupid is to pin these things on nationality. People who support illegal immigration always trot out this mess calling the locals lazy and stupid. If you believe that of yourself, I believe you.

There is an adage, "Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, than to open your mouth and prove it."
If many people from the outside world read the posts on this article, we have done well to "prove it".
I am so sorry for this nation.
We had promise.
I believe we are finished.

You prove this adage true. If you actually read the comments on international new sites on immigration, you would see their comments are similar or worse. No need for any Bahamian to feel guilty or ashamed in wanting to preserve the Bahamas for future generations of Bahamians.

> "Consider this; our population is
> generally lazy, fat/obese (obeastity
> would be a more fitting word for
> most), we're a very corrupt banana
> Republic like, nasty nasty people, and
> on top of all that we have a mostly
> stupid population."

**Chucky***, one must assume you are speaking of the country and its people you left to come to the Bahamas from. You're sad.

> We deserved and needed to recieve that
> Asian tsunami in 2004, we'd be a
> better country if 250000 people were
> wiped off thse Islands.

***Chucky***; With people like you coming here, it confirms the Bahamas has a need to protect its people and its boarders, hate filled whore mongers plotting from every end...The Haitians may be the least of the Bahmsas worries when it comes to immigration.

Chucky, If you dislike the Bahamas and her people,then CYBC!

And do it now!!!!!!

Chucky is right. The Truth hurts!!!!!

John says seems u r in denial.

Try and take an objective look, then tell me what you see. This is not the country it could have been.