So the project will not be completed for 12 years.Once completed, the refinery will then take up to four years to reach full output. Then within 6 years the refinery will likely close because there is no demand as countries move to clean energy and there's no sure supplier of crude oil. So those 250 jobs will be gone in 10 years, acres of Bahamian land will be lost, environmental damage and our nation's second city will be worst off than when it started.

Am I missing something here?

How much money are the people making from this ?

Arrogant Minnis seems incapable of manning up to the fact that he made a colossal error in judgement when it comes to Oban. Instead, the dimwitted doc would rather saddle our country with yet another corrupt investor group and all of the environmental damage and reputational risk they would surely bring with them. Does Minnis have a conscience, or is he so overwhelmed that he must continue to behave like a deer at night caught in the headlights of an oncoming 18 wheeler Mac truck?!

Bothers hell out this Comrade why "Brave" and his three House MP's are taking such a casual approach in House to Oban... what is there I'm missing that I am not getting from my talk on the street sources.... the four House men's should be jumping all over Minnis and KP and Oban... there's hardly word being said in the over the constitutional seriousness presented over the prime minister's outright misleading the House on Oban... Why isn't it for a PM to mislead the House equal constitutionality telling a fat lie?...... So why hasn't the governor general not done summoned the PM up to Mount Fitzwilliam to be fired?

You and your fascination with "The Governor General"! The rest is interesting.........

If the people from OBAN wants to invest that type of money into an oil refinery let them do so. If it is not feasible long term the money would have resulted in an economic boom for Freeport.

Ma Comrade Deddie, imagine if we passed on Oban and created the Magic Little City Kites............ you does hardly see anyone flying Kites these days. Motto: "Bahamalanders chooses the flying beautiful Kites over the blue skies Grand Bahamaland - not destroying our blue waters and sandy beaches with nasty sludge oils." Not a single Bahamalander has ever gotten Cancer from Kites.

Why would a company say...hey let's build an oil refinery....mmmm...where ?....mmmm...let,s see...ah..the Bahamas looks like a nice place...
Is this about building an oil refinery or more about getting a hold on that land ? No one in their right mind should even consider building such a potentially dangerous, foul smelling facility anywhere within the boundaries of this pristine and beautiful country, the profits of which, if any, will probably not benefit the average Bahamian. Eco tourism is growing and will only get bigger. If we decide to take advantage of what is arguably one of, if not the most beautiful country in the world, and take eco tourism really serious we will have no equal. I fail to understand a government that can give the green light to such a project.
Who is running this country....IDIOTS ???

A greater worry.........You have to be f_ ing kidding me.
Clearly there is a problem with sitting at your desk all day thinking about money and markets, while your arteries harden up such that you become dismissive about environmental concerns for the sake of our living world and humanities very future.
Tribune, your industry insider has some serious cognitive issues if he thinks that technology has helped our earth since the industrial revolution. It has had the capability of leaving a better planet than we found it, but somehow, we humans have used this amazing technology in ways that have been wholly antithetical to any vague notion of sustainability or love of life.
Your industry insider hasn't a clue.

The United States will be reducing production of the gas powered vehicle by 30 percent next year and countries like China and India plan to fully eliminate (new) gas powered vehicles by 2020 (two years). So when this facility becomes fully operational the number of gas powered vehicles in the world will be reduced by 50 percent. The electric vehicles also do not require much of the other products this refinery will be producing so it appears the plant will be obsolete before it is completed or, at least, fully operational.

Far better to look at an LG project or a solar/wind farm to produce alternative sources. In addition, perhaps revisiting fish farming and/ or vegetable/herbs hydroponics could be worth the effort.

you poor sick people,your main masomeyhing most can't understandbbn lose ,your free meal ticket gone at least for the next 16 years an you dont know what to do, so you ask for the head of the pm who really dont have anything to do with this whole thing,his job is to try to convince you jokers that oban is the best thing that happen to the bahamas since freeport,and look at how you'all screwed that up .so the lady felt like she can still salvage some of that fiaco with another bigger project one you people cannot understand,some say it cannot be good or real because no one has offered bribes or deal to the boys,dont hold your breath,this is a brand new day for the bahamas,no deals no bribes,no nothing.so get off your lazy behinds,go to school to qualify yourselves,and get ready for the most prosperous era since rum running,An dont worry about crown land they are all being taken away and given to people that will use it to help all the people.

Did we at least work out a deal where we can buy gas from them at a reduced rate or will we still need to import their gas after they have exported it elsewhere (kind of like our supermarket crawfish)?

Ma Comrade Sickened, does you realize if you shipped out all the Bahamalanders who transported themselves and family into Freeport the place could be officially declared extinct of Freeport born Bahamalanders.... in fact not more than 7.88% of the entire population bloodlines can be traced back 1960's native Freeporters... that may just be the problem... not enough Freeport culture to go around? The first family arrive in Freeport was the Gray Russell family from Hope Town Abaco, followed by the Robert Darville and Don Roberts out Nassau.... all who just happen be white or lick da brush anyways.... before blacks were allowed under Freeport's apartheid to reside in magic city..... why else would they tolerate private company as the quasi government over them?

I see some of our thinking is already into the years 2030 and beyond, but i remind all of you that the first block has not been laid yet. The Lord may come before this can get started. Why can't you all relax and let the game come too us, especially those who are not residents of this island . I have noticed that Our News has been reporting about OBAN now everyday for a while. Its bias reporting. It seems that the only stories they report are the negative aspects of Oban. They have yet to report or interview persons on the positive side. I will tell you that more persons are for this project than those against it. And just a word of caution Mr. Comrade, the majority of persons staying in Freeport would wish to stay here. No one really desires to live in Nassau. That why we hope investment like Oban would come here. I always say that recession is only for those who can't pay their bills... It is still quiet, clean and car free with garbage being collected 2 times a week like clock work. We like it that way, just allow investments to come, that is all we ask

my goodness you negro's are mean to the brother,at least now he knows how donald trump feels.ease up guys this is why strangers dont respect you'all if you treat your own like this what will you do to me,besides this is a private bussiness,they are not asking you or your goverment for anything ,they are offering you a better life ,no the land is already theres,and this is your problem,you think the queens land is yours now you tell me when did a hand full of brothers aquired the bahamas, did you fought for it, did you buy it,oh yea god gave it to yenna,the crown of england own the land and everything on the land under over,in the seas and under the sea,if you found gold in the ground in your back yard,this goverment will take it away from you and give it to the queen,fyi,besides who will you sell it to,you need license to sell gold borax treasure etc,and guess who you get it from ,your right you get it from the queens man,now where are you going to tell him you got it from leave minnis alone and please 'BE CAREFUL'.LOVE YA

**You're wrong, This Is Ours, it's all ours and how anyone uses it is of interest to all of us. That's why every landowner needs a permit, permission to do what they want with their land**. They're asking us to use our land and risk contamination of our waters. Our leaders should have considered the risk and negotiated a balanced reward. My goodness, they've agreed to limit their liability in event of an environmental disaster to 4 million dollars. even the most incompetent person would see the pitfalls of that versus 40 jobs two years from now.

This is a very bad deal. Even the 20% foreign workers will have tax exemptions They will
be the ones who will earn the larger salaries ...Oban will pay no taxes at all. and they also
have a real estate company where they will be building houses. The land they will lease
is beautiful Beach property

If the people of Pinders point complained. about BORCO Why.do even worse in the East. And even
as roc wit doc does not know any better. What about the rest of his cabinet??. Are they no
better could they not see it was a foolish agreement. But then again they all called Moultrie's
WRONG RIGHT. The peoples time for sure. good for GB FNM Country.

So are we saying Clifton Pier is a bad deal? You see the condition that is in? a real oil refinery problem wrapped up in a power plant. Its just needs to be maintained, that all the other two refineries do, they maintain them. There has not been a drop of oil spilled from OBAN, not yet. I just passed BORCO yesterday buying my potato bread from Pinder's point for my fry fish tomorrow, not one odor there. I was no more the 10 feet on the road from the plant. Companies are careful because there will be law suits and plenty money to be paid for clean ups. You people need to get a grip...

In 2017 I believe it was, the residents of Pinders Point reported hearing a loud explosion. Shortly thereafter workers in hazmat suits were seen doing what was believed to be a cleanup exercise. Noone, not the company not the government has ever explained what happened. Companies are "careful" not to expose themselves to legal risk even when there is something to be exposed

Instead of perpetrating political ploys – any government ought to legislate all Grand Bahama a Freeport Island. Bring in industries – from A to Z ‘ Make Grand Bahama the Hong Kong of the West! Make all of Grand Bahama a Freeport Island - with proper legislation to govern it.

The fact that posters to this website, like "bobneville" and "The MadHatter", must resort to playing the tired old lame race card game in support of Oban, tells us the project is only good for its foreign promoters with nothing but downside costs for Bahamians and our country.

After silently watching this Oban fiasco from the beginning, there are still more questions than answers. Quite a bit of this deal doesn't pass the smell test!

Has PM Minnis allowed himself to also be compromised to the detriment of our country and people? Examine the following link and make your own decision.

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/corp…

Could this explain why PM Minnis has totally ignored the obvious by not focusing on tapping into our natural resources to rescue the Bahamas in our time of greatest need?

Are the Bahamas doomed as long as any compilation of PLP or FNM governs the country?

Should "we the people" demand a fresh mandate and force PM Minnis to call an election so we can try the DNA or others not compromised by decades of systemic corruption?

**The thing is, the details this Cambridge Analytica whistleblower** (who also revealed how CA misused Facebook data to target ads to support Trumps election win) **gives are nothing we didn't always suspect. HE SAYS THEY WOULD /*TARGET/* ISLANDS WITH POOR CONTROLS, low civil society nvolvement, POLITICIANS THEY COULD ESSENTIALLY MANIPULATE, support their election campaigns in hopes that once these dumb greedy self serving politicians were elected, CA would be able to make money through contracts. And if the lax enough laws weren't in place they could always get them passed after the win**.This is what we've always suspected. **It's just the first time "the foreigner" has admitted what they do to our dumb greedy clueless leaders, who believe they're winning, meanwhile the foreigner is laughing at how little they understand about how much their country and resources are actually worth**. I still say this Oban deal has nothing to do with building an oil refinery, I don't know what they're up to but Kreiger was interested in commercial land for residential development NOW. The oil refinery is sometime in the fuzzy future

Remember the BOLD move that was reported after a meeting with Donald Trump? You really have to wonder. Two days in the job and you believe your brilliance resulted in someone offering you "a deal". They see you coming 10 miles away.

I don't believe the DNA will be any different. What is happening now is that persons with the lowest moral and ethical compasses are aligning themselves with whichever party they believe will win. These persons go into politics specifically to exploit these under the table contracts. Some of the candidates supported by the DNA are qualitatively no different from those we've always suffered. Watch and see, in the next five years the same recycled politicians will align themselves with the DNA...might even see Wells cross the floor again. Certainly puts a new light on the never explained LOI affair

when you think about how we cant keep the power on consistently or keep traffic lights working, it frightens the hell out of me to wonder how we will respond if a leak or explosion occurs at this proposed place. seems we really need to decide if we really want to possibly put the GB tourism industry, water supply and environment at risk for what will be at the end of the day, if ever, an insignificant amount of jobs..

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/australasia/t…