I support corporal punishment but I think that it should limited to the hands. Way back when... I remember an administrator who they called 'ole man Archer' (he was like 90 - at least it felt that way) who all students were afraid of but he only disciplined *in the hands* with his cane.<br/><br/>
No student ever felt abused and there were never any marks, but everyone were always on their P's and Q's when he passed by. [But alas, that was a different time and a different generation!]

But yet we have triple digit murders for almost a decade! And a teacher/ administrator tries to discipline a child and teach him manners and respect that he obviously did not learn at home and he/she gets called out and dragged over the coals. In my days in school if you got a beating from a teacher and went home and complain about it you got another cut hip. The rationale was , "da teacher ain't gone beat you for nothing." And you ain't ger be going about making me shame. Then a few years down the road or even less than that, this same boy start smoking dope and start acting like his head twist on wrong. The parent can no longer discipline him. So the police are called for whom this time?

See ....Tribune article... 'School beaings must be very last resort' Monday, March5 , 2018 by Rashad Rolle. See 1st paragraph
"Children should be beaten in schools only if all other options have been exhausted and in the most egregious of circumstances, Education Minister, Jeff Lloysd, pictured has said."
In the article it alas refers to University rrsearch in Bahamian homes that 77% of children gets spznked.
Where Human Rights group is involved it appears dat this child may likely be a Haitian child, close knit shanty town communities where it seems that they dont gets spanked....but it is the law in Bahamian govt school.....so da Minister who says that all children innthe Bahamas must get schooling an no school officials must ask nationality whether they or parents lrgally here....now has to decide .....

I suggest that you go to UB and read that research for yourself. . .that research referred to homes within the whole Caribbean. . .NOT SCHOOLS!! If Darwin takes time to read those conventions that he so readily refer to he would see that he is way off in his statements!! The Bahamas refused to take on a few articles in that convention. . .not spanking a child at all was one of them!! If Darwin them take time to read and not just shooting their mouths off they will find that the S.C. McPherson Long QT death case was already taken to court and the teacher was acquitted!! The new policy for the government school was only administration were to beat STUDENTS!! THAT CASE AND RULING WAS ABOUT 18 YEARS AGO!

> “School just opened on Monday,” Mr
> Thompson said. “Allegedly a young man
> was beaten at C H Reeves. It was
> reported the young man said things to
> his teacher, and the vice principal
> took action and beat him, which caused
> bruising on his posterior.

So its ok for a student to verbally abuse teachers and/or administrators.. should he have just been kicked out of school or suspended?

actually it is ok. teachers will tell you of repeatedly being abused by students, and it takes years for a student to be expelled and, they are not made to apologize.

kids love being suspended, it is a mini vacation.

Mr. Thompson seem to be a loosed cannon with a chip on his shoulder for Bahamian governments. . .he is not born Bahamian. . .came here as a child from DR. . .he had no automatic status. . .even though he grew up here from aged 5 years. . .he came up on the case where he had no rights to Bahamian status unless adopted by his DR mother's Bahamian husband!! The Bahamian government gave him all benefit as any Bahamian child. . .he found himself in limbo because he had no easement rout into citizenship!! He found himself a DR citizen. . .with no right to Bahamian citizenship! I understand the pressure he had being the "outside" person in his family. . .as it related to mother and siblings becoming citizens. He needs to slow the hell down and read those conventions carefully before shooting off his mouth in public. . .he is very brilliant. . .but soooo misguided. . .

PEOPLE WE MISSING OUT ...SOMETING HERE............BIG TIME..........
HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP .....CITING DIS LAW....DIS CONVENTION FOR DA CHILD..........MUDDA TEC.... SIC DRED...............SO MONKEY ONCLE.......WHAT HAPPENED TO THE RIGHTS OF THE .....SCHOOL TEACHER....??????...VERBALLY ABUSED....THREATENED....DEMORALISED......?????AUTHORITY....DESTROYED.....????...NAME TARNISHED....REPUTATION...AS TEACHER....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE ....RIGHTS OF THE REST OF SCHOOL CHILDREN...??????... TO BE ABLE TO LEARN WITH SOME BAD CHILD SUCKING UP THEIR VALUABLE TEACHING TIME........?????.....WHAT THE HELL HAPPENEN TO PORE BAHAMIAN TAXPAYERS PAYING ALL DOS MONEY FOR SCHOOLING OF THE BAHAMIAN NATIONS YOUTH.....??????......and the endless man hours investigating...????.....disrespect lowering of teachers esteem...ability to deliver other lessons...without fear....?? OF ABUSE BY SOME CHILD........SAVE THE PORE TAXPAYERS AN..IF CHILD IS NON BAHAMIAN....PUT THEM ON THE NEXT PLANE OUT OF THE COUNTRY....!!!!!!!!!

@Bogart, that's why our Bahamian society is in a state of moral decay. Children are being allowed to disrespect authority and then we have people turn around and say.... their "rights" have been violated. Well if you don't want your child's "rights" to be violated, then keep them at home and teach them respect and discipline! No child should be allowed to disrespect a teacher under any circumstance.

What message does that send? The majority of teachers sacrifice so much to teach these children, many of whom come from broken homes and lack basic social skills. Teaching is not an easy task and for some group( Rights Bahamas) filled with foreign nationals to talk nonsense, is a slap in the face of our teachers!

Put him out of school, somewhere he can learn discipline and respect! Mr Jeff Lloyd you all are walking on thin ice, thread carefully!

The country is fortunate that we have brave people such as Rights Bahamas Education Committee Chairman Dawrin Thompson who are unafraid to call out the Educator who reportedly inflicted such horrible physical abuse on this child. There will be people who direct spiteful comments at him but I hope he knows that he does have support from the more educated and compassionate members of our little country, few though they may be.

So are you suggesting that the student should go unpunished for telling the teacher about her private parts in front of the class? Please go to the head of the class!

Hi MessySir, I am sorry to give the impression that I think this child should go unpunished, The child should definitely be punished but this child also should not be physically abused. I don't even think that husbands should be allowed to beat their wives, but that probably just shows how dumb and stupid I am.

Back at ya Hissyfit, like you I don't believe in either child or wife beating but lack of discipline in this country has brought us to where we are today, in the schools , in the home and on the streets. I, for one, cannot say our society is a better place as a result. As a child of the fifties who was raised in a home where corporal punishment was the norm for unacceptable behavior, I cannot say that a few good cut ass turned me into a psychopath, but it certainly taught me manners and respect for my betters and elders.
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hrysippus,

I appreciate your perspective, your ability to articulate, and your strength in being one of the few who have real sense in these matters.

Mr. Darwin Thompson needs to immediately arrange for therapy for the Teacher AND the rest of the class who witnessed this traumatic harrowing incident ...this would leave a mark on the students witnessing this verbal abuse in filthy language on a profession teacher authority figure and would certainly affect them for the rest of their lives
The incident now played out on social media also impacts the dedicated hard working of the entire school an the entire teachers in the school systen. Schoole, Teachers and other students have rights too...!!!!

that's correct!

Talk is cheap .......... Tell the Minister to change the laws and policies on corporal punishment or shut up ......... These enlightened fools tote cut-ass themselves as children and probably did the same to their children in secret ............. Lloyd himself bragged about how his Grammy used to cut his ass as a boy in Long Island (and look at how he turned out!!!).

Het, Cheaprunner12, I think I am probably one of those people who you insult by calling " enlightened fools". I can not speak for others but I was never beaten by my parents and as a parent I have never beaten any of my children. Most all of them happily married with children of their own. They, like me, despise adults who physically abuse those they have power over,

> “School just opened on Monday,”
>
>

SCHOOL JUST OPENED ON MONDAY, and already this boy (our teachers used to say they are the only adult in the classroom), so this *boy* is trying to take control of the class early by verbally abusing the teacher in front of the class. Juggling for control. A total "dis" that has to be checked! In most Bahamian homes that would not only result in a cut hip, but that boy would not be allowed back into that house until he sincerely apologized to the person he assaulted. Sincerely apologize. And he would only be let back in the home on the condition that he understood if it happened again, he would be kicked out permanently. When you make your bed hard, you lay down hard..in the streets ma boy. And sometimes is the parents that need cut skin too cause they don't have no discipline.

Stop living in the dark ages .There are far to many studies that conclude corporal punishment and beating children makes many of them anti social and teaches them to deal w conflict resolution by physical means ..We have been beating the snot out of kids ,sometimes in anger , forever and we have a violent society w a murder rate like a war zone .Don,t give me anecdotal evidence about I was spanked and I turned out all right . The last study was over 50 years and a 140,000 children .There are other ways to discipline .Why do the Nordic countries where corporal punishment is illegal have the lowest crime rates and violence on the planet ..Don,t say we don,t whup kids anymore ,,nonsense I see us whipping the snot out of them all the time ,,if the Bahamas was a lab for does corporal punishment work ,,I say ,only in making more violent teens and young adults ,,And spare the rod was about using the hook on the staff to guide sheep back ,,not beating kids ..Used like pay Caesar what is due caeser was not put in until king james was having trouble collecting taxes ,, Come out of the dark ages

....Living in da dark ages......muddoes dred.....we living in da dark ages...why even the Human rights people file injunction about stopping the govt demolishing Shantytowns ----they needs to google shantytowns...hehhehheh....this go round they against spanking as wrong....dey jus more mix up than conch salad....!!!

how has all that spanking ,beatings etc been working out for us ??Don,t say we don,t spank ,whup anymore that's BS we beat the snot out of kids ,,many times in anger and frustration and all we produce is more anti social youth and young adults that solve conflicts physically ,,the proof is in the pudding we are a violent dangerous society w the good people locked behind bars in their homes at night

Fundamentally, this is not how our government is suppose work.... they've all lost their fuc#ing marbles.
The 39 who sit as MP's were voted up House by you, the people, making them a reflection of the very people who elevated them up House. The minister Comrade Jeff is a reflection of you the people when he said "Education officials may revise school policies on corporal punishment, insisting modern research shows it to be an ineffective way of disciplining children."

The wording of administration beating a student. That isn't corpul punishment, that's abuse. No punishment and abuse both create unhealthy and stable adults. Consistent healthy influence with reasonable punishment and equally praise when deserved. Everyone is different but usually you can teach good behavior with extreme measures. One person can't do it by themselves. There is truth to it takes a village to raise a child. It goes back to family values. Neighbors being there for one another. When we work together it works out for everyone. Kids raising theirselves doesn't work.

If Rights Bahamas is involved this simply means a Haitian child was disciplined in a public school and it was unacceptable to them!