The seeds of a police state. Thank you Papa Doc Minnis.

So I guess a state run and ruled is better huh

Bunch of thugs! It all starts at the top. Lack of rectification of this sad and serious problem is the same as complicity.

Do you know what the word "alleged" means?? The man did not say that the police beat him. . .the lawyer said: "I believe that they beat him to get a confession" . That lawyer is quite known for making outrageous statements in public that a good lawyer should not make in the face of no evidence!! She and we should wait and hear what the victim says. . .he may have decide to "play" sick to get out of CDU!! She and you should wait and see what the doctors says about the condition.

All of these illegal, atrocious violation of freedom and human rights actions by the police have the signatures of Hubert Minnis, Meltdown Marvin and Anthony ‘cane toad’ Ferguson under them as long as they sit on their hands and allow these, mostly untrained barbaric officers to continue to afflict pain and torture on citizens without even restraint, unless the victims die in their hands. And they go home to their wives and children pretending to be keepers and upholders of the law knowing that they left people in cells somewhere grasping for breath or barely clinging to life. And for some of them it is the highlight of their day. More than a job but a secret self fulfilling fantasy to wreak pain and suffering on another individual. A human being who to this point is still innocent and may not even be fully suspect of a crime. Or at least not one as horrific as the beating officers are about to meet out. To beat them half to death or in some instances, even to death, wash their hands and go home . But only until another shift starts and another set of victims are brought in. Nothing to restrain them, because there is no consequences to their actions and a bothersome conscience can be cures with a few drinks or even that joint he just beat that young boy half to death for having in his possession. And Hitler sent them to the showers and gassed them to death!

Did you remember to take your meds? If not, please do so before you blow a gasket.

You are a perversion to sanity.

Hey mudda, your comment would be so much funnier if it was not so true. Another sad in Paradise for us all but most especially for this young man. it is a good thing that we have a free and relatively fearless media to report these incidents of state sponsored abuse.

A media that will not go and do clean research. . .they just talk nonsense. . . now I hope when the doctors finish with this case and they all are seen for the rush to judgement foolishness, they will give the police a public apology!!

Didn't the commissioner say last week to "trust the police".<br/>
How is that working out so far?

Just how the police request millions of dollars each year to buy vehicles and equipment, they must invest in Human Resources and send officers to get proper training in crime investigation and interrogation. And no genuine effort to fight crime will be effective until this illegal and barbaric behavior is stopped. And just how ordinary citizens and politicians are brought before the courts to answer for their actions, so will the police be made to answer along with those who are in charge of them and allow this behavior.

Quite right, but where in the world would they go for their training? Certainly not across the small pond! Probably best to bring in decent law enforcement folk to train them on their own turf.

What behaviour?? There in lays your dilemma. . . you don't know a damn thing. . .yet you prescribe draconian measures for "rid us" of the police. . .so no sane civilization can listen to you. . . because in your world. . .these lil cold blooded killers DO NOT have the wherewithal to lie about the police beating them. . .even in the face of medical evidence to the contrary. . .to fight going to jail for their crimes!!

I wonder if you are aware that if any force is used against the human body medical doctors can tell? I would also agree that techniques like water-boarding will not show. . .force that will make that man doubled over like in the picture will leave psychical traces in the body!

And yes. . .the police can be brought before a court. . .BUT YOU MUST BRING EVIDENCE TO GET THAT DONE. . .the world knows what seem like only you one DON'T HAVE CLUE ABOUT. . .CRIMINALS LIE TOO. . .so much the more to get out of going to jail for their crimes!!

So when you have two components. . .both quite capable of telling lies. . .both with opposite information about the same incident. . .THE COMMON SENSE APPROACH IS TO DIG DEEPER FOR THE CORRECT INFORMATION. . .NOT A JACK TAIL "TWO FOOTS" DIVE INTO THE MIDDLE AND SAY ONE SIDE IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND THE OTHER LIES!! That is too unreliable. . .you are more likely to let the guilty good. . .especially if he/she "looks" innocent!!

If the PLP were in power you would be screaming bloody murder. Because nothing has changed. Put some cameras in every area where they keep or interview prisoners so no one can falsely blame them of abuse.

THEY ALREADY HAVE THEM CAMERAS THEM. . .SO i WOULD THINK IF THEM POLICE PEOPLE WANT TO BEAT YA. . .DON'T YA THINK THEM ER MOVE YA FROM WHERE THE CAMERA DEM IS?? False claims are as old as man. . .

I said in "every" area where they keep or interview prisoners. There is a science to camera placement, you walk out of view of one camera the next one picks you up. Clearly they have some pretty big blind spots. One man missing and others dead.

We do not know if the allegations are true. I pray that it is not. But this blame cannot be placed on the current government. This has been going on for years. The police officers in this country need proper training on how to investigate and handle matters without beatings and other forms of coercion. We also need magistrates and judges who will throw out cases where it is seen that the confessions were coerced due to beatings. We need defendants and medical personnel brave enough to testify against the officers and lawyers brave enough to defend them. We need lawsuits, lawsuits and more lawsuits with hefty payouts to send a very strong message to the police force. It has to stop now.

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Quite true what she is saying---There is no way a sensible person is going to admit to a crime unless he is beaten. Many times the prosecution comes into Court with no evidence other that a confession. I guess it saves a lot on investigation time!!

So you continue to kill four innocent to find one guilty?

So our judges are a buncha dime wits. . .including the Privy Council? Many of cases we have where our boys say them was beaten to get information. . .yet they can take the Police to collect all the other needed evidences. . .including dead body. Balance people. . .stupidity gets us nowhere. In my younger days I say two people lie under lie detectors tests. . .it was in our young "whipper snappers" days. . .we worked for the same international company. . .the two persons lied and were cool as cucumbers. . .let off scott free. . .lie detectors could not detect their untruths!! Now you may ask. . .how did you know they were guilty. . .I saw them with the items. . .even though the investigators did not have evidence to hold them guilty. . .especially in face of the lie detector information. . .they were pronounced not guilty!

But even though I could not prove they had the items. . .I SAW THEM TOOK THE ITEMS FROM THE BUILDING!!

Yet I could not say they stole them. . .I had no evidence!! Plus they beat the detector tests!!

This has been going on for far to long in this country.the judges and politicians dont care about this problem. Poorly trained uneducated officers unleashed upon the bahamian public.6 months of basic training at most does not make a police officer and for the most part there superiors dont see any thing wrong with this behavior because they have done the same thing.To top it off they beat you half to death and want you the public to support them afterwards.

UNFAIR.....,!!!.....NOT DA WESTMINISTER SYSTEM...!!!!!!.......WHY DIS SEEMS TO BE AFFECTED.........ON WE DA PORE LOW PEOPLE.........AN..AN.....NEVER SAMENESS NEVER SEEMS HAD ON ....CHARGED...ELITES...AFFLUENTS......MUCK A MUKS....PROFESSIONALS....???????????

Quite MAD!

Very idiotic statement. What does building a larger, more modern prison have to do with police brutality? Maybe if the police were not so brutal there would be no need for a bigger prison. Maybe some go there to avoid the police. Maybe that’s why the rate of recidivism is so high, as is the brain drain as persons of means move to get away from crime and now the police? Surely Marvin Dames and Anthony Ferguson must have the capacity to sit and think of the long term effects of this police behavior. But maybe it’s all inter-related: with the new bail act, bail has to be applied for in the Supreme Court. So the police beats a confession out of an individual and takes them before the courts. So they have a choice to plead guilty and get a light sentence or sit in jail while the bail application is made. So after the police beating and everything else, they chose to plead guilty to get it all behind them. So in a few short years there is a high percentage of the population who have criminal records. They cannot travel and they cannot work on certain jobs. Their lives are now restricted. Isn’t this the same thing they did on the ‘war on drugs ‘ when they tried to lock up and criminalize all the young, black men?

"Surely Marvin Dames and Anthony Ferguson must have the capacity to sit and think of the long term effects of this police behaviour." If you say so, John. To have this capacity they would actually have to care!

In the year of police report review last year complaints against police was some 245.....das like 245/52 weeks = 4.7 complaints per week....and crime has been statistically down arresting Tourism outside negative warnings.
In all fairness jus like many complaints...alleged "beatings" on we young pore.....it is unfair.....as no such "beatings" seems to happen on arrested ...rich old culprits....!!!!!!!!....

Monkeys and baboons running this country. Like a band of thugs and savage apes.
SAD!

The first thing any judge should ask the prosecuting lawyer in any court case is "Does this person have any gang tattoos?" If yes, then any police beating confession is admissible. If the child's parents didn't bring this child up right then the police should do it.

Cold, I know.

I don't know how defense lawyers sleep knowing that most of their clients are guilty but got off on a technicality. Do you think they ever sit with the police or prosecutors after a case and tell them what they did wrong so that the next criminal can be put behind bars??

Defense attorneys arent there to get guilty people off. Theyre there to ensure their clients are treated fairly, like not being beaten in jail. And Innocent people get jailed too.

How about video cameras recording all confessions? How about body cameras on the cops?