‘LET’S NOT FIXATE ON THE NUMBERS’: Dames – Nothing ‘amiss’ on Dorian deaths but he can’t explain police total

By RASHAD ROLLE

Tribune Senior Reporter

rrolle@tribunemedia.net

NATIONAL Security Minister Marvin Dames said he cannot say why the number of people he identified on Sunday as missing after Hurricane Dorian differed from the figure Assistant Commissioner of Police Solomon Cash gave at a recent press conference.

In a press statement on Sunday, Mr Dames said 279 people are missing. Three weeks ago, ACP Cash said 33 people were still missing.

“I don’t know the reason for (the difference),” Mr Dames told reporters before Cabinet yesterday.

“The numbers that were given are not Marvin Dames’ numbers. They are the numbers compiled and taken from the centralised listing…All of these numbers are now in the hands of the police. Let’s not get fixated on this and I think sometimes we get caught in a position where we say ‘oh something is amiss, what is amiss?’ Our only intention in all of this is to ensure that we reach those persons who were impacted, and we understood that coming out of Dorian, our infrastructure had been completely destroyed.

“Communication had been completely destroyed. The whole network was missing and so the police are still in the throes of trying to get all this information that was out there in the hands of different individuals and agencies into one centralised repository.”

Former Health Minister Dr Duane Sands pushed the issue of the Dorian missing into the spotlight last week when he blasted the Minnis administration’s handling of the matter. He said an explanation was needed for how hundreds of names were culled from official lists. He said too many government agencies were involved in dealing with the Dorian missing, creating a “recipe for disaster”.

Asked about this, Mr Dames said: “Well again, let me speak generally because I don’t want to get back to what the former minister said. He and I had a conversation yesterday and we’re friends but as friends too, we all have a right to speak truth to power if we feel that we’re correct and that’s exactly what I did.

“We came out of a disaster that would’ve been a challenge to any developed country. We’re an archipelago of some 700 islands stretched over some 100,000 square miles of sea. We don’t have helicopters, planes and everything else. I just indicated that the infrastructure on Abaco and Grand Bahama and its adjacent cays were shot. Communication had been shot, transportation had been shot, people had been displaced. A lot of people had lost their homes, okay. That’s what we were faced with, so it is expected then therefore that getting information centralised would’ve been a significant challenge for any country, even a developed country… Now it’s the police jobs to find all of this loose information, wherever it is and bring it together. This happened in September and they have been working to do that. We’re now in COVID and that’s an added stress on what they’re currently doing, but they have been doing a fantastic job.”

Yesterday, Progressive Liberal Party leader Philip “Brave” Davis called for an official investigation. 

“We are calling for an independent inquiry either by outside police investigators or through a commission of inquiry to determine the fate of the missing in Abaco and Grand Bahama after Hurricane Dorian,” he said. “We do so having taken notice of the public statements of Dr Duane Sands and Marvin Dames. The clashing narratives within the Minnis administration about the number of persons missing in the wake of Hurricane Dorian do not go down well with the public. The PLP is not interested in the intra-party bickering. The country needs to know the facts. How many are missing or lost and presumed dead? What are their names? What is responsible for their status?

“FNM ministers, party operatives and certain media outlets are woefully projecting this matter as a competition about ‘whose story is better’. Some operatives claim the inconsistent statement by Dr Duane Sands. Others say the nine-month absence of clarity by Marvin Dames…is the story to be preferred. We are of the view that the indictment against this government for confusing the number of the missing against institutional and public need, demands an urgency for clarity, truth of process and transparency,” Mr Davis said. 

Comments

joeblow says...

Does Dames even understand that these "numbers" are peoples deceased relatives and loved ones? Does he understand that for that reason alone it should be focused on?

Posted 17 June 2020, 8:25 a.m. Suggest removal

moncurcool says...

Tired of intelligent, educated people acting ignorant. Rather than try come up with talking points to try change the narrative, Dames should do the noble move and admit to the error and then look into it to provide a sensible response. His present response just leaves people to disbelieve him and creates an even greater issue out of what didn't have to be.

Posted 17 June 2020, 10:46 a.m. Suggest removal

tribanon says...

Dames is spitting in our eyes and telling us we should not fixate on his incompetence and the incompetence of the entire Minnis-led FNM government.

And why is Minnis himself not addressing this most important matter of the significant discrepancies in the lists of missing persons compiled by different government departments and agencies in the aftermath of Hurricane Dorian?

How much longer is Minnis going to remain in hiding from the free press and Dr. Sands?

Posted 17 June 2020, 11:19 a.m. Suggest removal

DDK says...

Did some one say something about intelligent, educated people? A House full of Intelligent, WELL-educated m.p.'s with concerns for The People and The Country rather than self would be sooo refreshing. The person in the photo is obviously not one of them 🤣

Posted 17 June 2020, 1:25 p.m. Suggest removal

ThisIsOurs says...

“I don’t know the reason for (the difference),” Mr Dames told reporters before Cabinet yesterday.*

This is almost laughable. He raised a ruckus that Sands was beibg disingenuous when Sands said names disappeared and we dont know why, then Dames says he's wrong but I don't know why either....you can't make this up. If they would just stop being defensive ...

Posted 17 June 2020, 2:02 p.m. Suggest removal

TalRussell says...

The colony's new Chief Justice comrade Brian, might want to take a peek at Venezuela’s Supreme Court replacing the leadership board of his country's two oldest and largest political parties. Nod Once for Yeah, Twice for No?

Posted 17 June 2020, 2:13 p.m. Suggest removal

geostorm says...

I hope people came forward to declare their relatives missing. All of this talk by so many about thousands of missing people and dead bodies. Let's hope that people did the responsible thing and went to the police to declare their loved ones missing. Without that, the police can never have the most accurate numbers.

I see no reason for the police to deliberately give false information. If a country like the USA, with all of it's resources, to this day **still** does not have an accurate count of the missing from Hurricane Katrina, I don't see why you all would be so critical of the Bahamas. The Bahamas, who in modern history has not seen any storm the likes of Dorian or any disease the likes of COVID- 19. People think this is a game aye? Well it's not! This is no time to be creating mischief and causing confusion amongst ourselves. Hurricane Dorian and COVID-19 already did enough of that for us!

Posted 17 June 2020, 4:52 p.m. Suggest removal

joeblow says...

... inaccurate numbers will have far more to do with unreported illegals lost than Abaco residents or Bahamian citizens!

Posted 17 June 2020, 5:32 p.m. Suggest removal

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