Saturday, May 23, 2020
The Ministry of Health announced on Saturday that there are three new confirmed cases of COVID-19.
The new cases are:
• An eight-year-old boy from New Providence who is in isolation at home
• A 25-year-old woman of New Providence who is also in isolation at home.
• A 27-year-old man of New Providence – also in isolation at home.
This brings the total number of confirmed cases to 100 – with 45 of those recovered. There have been 1,955 tests.
Comments
WETHEPEOPLE says...
Is it just me or have these "active cases" been active for weeks now.
Posted 23 May 2020, 9:45 p.m. Suggest removal
ohdrap4 says...
Confirmed = 100
Active + Recovered = 44+45=89
Running from the doctors with no bracelet=11
Total = 100
Posted 23 May 2020, 9:51 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
8 ... 25 ... 27 ... so much for the notion that only old people are at risk.
Posted 23 May 2020, 10:20 p.m. Suggest removal
Chucky says...
They tested positive. Big deal. Anyone can get the virus. Notice all three are at home “isolated “.
They’re not in any jeopardy, this hit 99% of people like the normal flu!
Posted 24 May 2020, 7:57 a.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
Uh ... Chucky ... the “normal flu” does not kill 100,000 Americans in less than 3 months. Really. You could look it up.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:17 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
I agree that it is like the normal flu. The big difference is no vaccine. The vaccine is the key. Without a vaccine the normal flu would kill just as many people.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:54 a.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
The death rate among those who become infected is something like 30-40 times the “normal flu,” and it’s far more contagious than the “normal flu.” The “normal flu” doesn’t result in 10’s of thousands of people with a ventilator tube stuck down their throat into their lungs.
The death rate has nothing to do with whether there is a vaccine — it’s based on those who contract the virus, not those who’ve been innoculated against it. Really, people, ya can look this stuff up.
Posted 24 May 2020, 9:49 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
Ah but the death rate does have something to do with whether there's vaccine...
I make a correction, the 2nd biggest difference between the influenza outbreak **pre** vaccine and today is time travel. The ability for an infected person to travel from Wuhan China in a matter of hours and cause the infection of millions of Americans and a few thousand Caribbean peoples. But for that new fangled time machine we may not have been experiencing a pandemic.
This virus is just like the normal flu: That is someone gets infected, they can have a mild reaction or a severe reaction that sometimes ends up in death. If we didnt have a vaccine for the flu you'd be seeing just how deadly it is. It fact, its exactly why every winter theres a big *please get your flu vaccine* push especially for **elderly** people. And even with that warning hundreds of thousands **still** die... every year. The fact that I can take some benadryl and go back to work in 2 weeks doesn't make it less deadly fir at risk individuals. There are school teachers, policemen, defence force workers etc doing the same with an active COVID infection right this minute.
If you want to get into the kitty gritty sure it's different...different name...It affects multiple organs...sure. btw a long time ago I said I believed the MISuse of ventilators was a MAJOR cause of the high death rate. I saw a study pointing in that direction. Even the scientists are postulating that the death rate was unusually and unnecessarily high. I've heard stories PREVIOUS of patients out at risk by medical staff who didn't know how to customize settings for individualized symptoms.
Posted 24 May 2020, 1:43 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
“If we didnt have a vaccine for the flu you'd be seeing just how deadly it is.”
Bzzzzzttt ... you lose. Only 37% of American adults got a flu vaccination in 2018, and that number is DROPPING year to year. (See link below.)
I know you are in love with your opinions, and “stuff you’ve heard,” but that does not make them facts.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/cove…
Posted 24 May 2020, 2:50 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
Oh ... and the death rate is calculated by dividing the number of deaths by the number of people who were infected, regardless of how many people were vaccinated.
Simple math, simple fact. F.a.c.t.
Posted 24 May 2020, 3:17 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
Oh ... and the “normal” flu does not kill 100’s of thousands a year. 2017-18 was an especially bad year and the toll was 79,000. Really ... you should look stuff up ‘fore gassing on and on ‘bout it.
Posted 24 May 2020, 3:27 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
sigh..."*The World Health Organization estimates that worldwide, annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths*
Posted 24 May 2020, 10:32 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
We were talking U.S. deaths above ... but if you wanna talk global, the global Covid-19 toll as of today stands at 346,000 in just over 3 months. And rising.
Sigh. Math much?
Posted 24 May 2020, 10:40 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
not sure what the fact with periods was for lol, I only said scientists are expressing concern about the unusually high death rate and pointing to possible misuse of ventilators...why that needed a definition of death rate. Im not sure....but thanks I guess...
Posted 24 May 2020, 10:36 p.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
Anyone can catch it but only a certain group are potential data cases. Of course. Of course at-risk people can catch it as well.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:12 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
I meant "are potential at-risk cases"
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:42 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
They threw out the notion that only old people were at risk by the time it hit the US.
The biggest elephant in the room for me would be what the *at risk community* is doing at the moment. Are they barricaded in their houses? Because if they are and we are not testing and we are opening we could give those persons a false sense of security or increase the likelihood that they are exposed. They come out of their forts and suddenly we have at risk persons getting sick and dying. again.
It's unfortunate that we didn't follow the path of testing a sample population early. And now we're talking about letting more rich foreign people in and how wonderful that would be for the economy. Exactly what happened in the Black plague, the rich people fled to the untouched country resorts and took the virus with them.
probably the two most disturbing signals out of the US: children previously infected with COVID who weeks later develop a secondary Kawasaki like disease and marijuana smokers developing severe infections.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:33 a.m. Suggest removal
jt says...
Marijuana smokers?
Mmmmmkay.
https://www.complex.com/life/2020/05/ca…
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:20 p.m. Suggest removal
gbgal says...
Is this the youngest patient so far? How many people are not doing as asked? We need to understand how these new cases came into being if the lockdowns have continued thus far. It is puzzling.
Posted 24 May 2020, 1:30 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
How many persons are doing as asked and still get it? You cal still spread the virus doing any quite normal allowed activities. I think NY was saying that many of the cases in Manhattan were from persons who were at home. They simply passed it on to others who they were in close contact with.
Going to a construction site can, ordering delivery, and going to the pharmacy can still cause the spread. Measures are only there to slow it down.
100 confirmed cases are not 100 cases in the country. If we test everyone we'd realize that there can be 1.5x, 2x, 5x 10x, or 20x that number. No one knows unless more testing is done. In reality, we probably have a bunch of healthy carriers going about doing allowed activities passing it around to others who show symptoms.
The only way to know is to test more.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:41 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
Doing as asked? I don't think that has anything to do with it at this point. For example, I personally believe the masks are just a security blanket.Ive never worn one and not constantly touched and adjusted it. It actually causes me to touch my face more often than I would had I not worn it...but ok wear it...for fashion
Everything we're doing is futile without a testing program. And the worst thing that could happen to us now is having Dr Minnis as Health Minister. We don't need any more evidence that he is not a planner.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:51 a.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
If you’ve never worn one, how do you know it causes you to touch your face more often? And why do surgeons wear masks in the operating room?
Posted 24 May 2020, 9:51 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
I know how often I touch my face under normal circumstances. Rarely. lol. As to surgeons they wear them for a very short defined periods of time in a sterile environment where theyre conscious about maintaining sterility and having been trained for decades on how to maintain sterility. I watched a nurse demonstrate putting on and taking off gloves for example and I said who going through all that? I'll use hand sanitizer.
And since you dont believe me Dr Nakia Forbes expressed the same concern about people wearing masks. "*there's a tendency to keep adjusting the mask*". She was right.
Posted 24 May 2020, 1:55 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
You seem confused. The purpose of the mask is to keep you from spreading the virus to others, should you be carrying it. It is not meant to keep you from infecting yourself with your fingers.
Posted 24 May 2020, 3:44 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
sigh...please read my past comments. I've been saying that for weeks now. But I don't believe it even accomplishes that. Because the infected person wearing the mask still has hands and contaminated clothing.As I said masks to me are a comfort blanket. In the Bahanas they've become a fashion statement lol...you can't make this up. But whatever I'll wear it.
Example I went through one establishment where they put you through the mine yards of cleansing to get service, then at the cashier everyone used the same unsanitized digital pen
To clear up your confusion all of the experts are saying you can catch the virus by touching contaminated hands to the face. And since masks don't cover eyes..lol.
From the minute they gave out the *take off shoes at the door put clothes in bag immediately wash all clothes worn outside, soak all fruits (even the ones with a rind) before putting in fridge, leave grocery bags outside*, I said this is not going to work. We all gat it. No-one will sustain this behaviour over any extended period of time.
Posted 24 May 2020, 4:50 p.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
Well, OK ... but there seems to be something of a disconnect between what you believe and what the CDC, AMA, WHO, etc., believe. Maybe you know best. Nobody says masks are perfect, but they are overwhelmingly recommended. By far.
And, yes, the pen thing is stupid, should be cleaned between uses ... in the Bahamas, seems like nobody will part with a 29-cent pen, even if they have one. At my U.S. doctor’s office they hands you a pen and tells you to keep it.
Posted 24 May 2020, 7:24 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
Nah no disconnect. Dr Birx herself said ~"*my concern is that people will think masks will provide 100% protection*". Thats not a direct quote, was way back in March if I remember correctly. Her concern was that people donning masks would believe they had an invisible forcefield and would engage in otherwise unsanitary behaviour.. like leaning on walls or sitting in the ground while waiting in line. Thats what Im saying, the mask is one piece of the armour. there are still multiple ways to contract it. Constantly touching the mask is one , but its subconscious action and you only need one bad touch.
Do I believe a mask can prevent an infected person from releasing as much sputum in the air than had they not worn the mask? Of course. Physics
Posted 24 May 2020, 10:26 p.m. Suggest removal
stillwaters says...
People sneaking around and you know the rest of the story
Posted 24 May 2020, 11:10 a.m. Suggest removal
John says...
The claim is the employee who returned to work at Sandilands was never informed that he tested positive for the virus. And whilst the boarders remain officially sealed more may need to be done to police the illegal movement of persons into the country and across domestic boarders.
Posted 24 May 2020, 2:59 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
The most weird thing about that episode is, if he was at work why was he "missing"? Isnt that the furst place to make a phone call? *Good Morning calling on behalf of Dr Dahl Regis , Is so and so on premises*?
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:56 a.m. Suggest removal
TalRussell says...
**FREE port goin' be next on a list of red coats MP's goin' be run off another out Island!**
There is no way in hell for the 35 House elected red coats MP's to make a return to sit back up in the PopoulacesOrdinary's House - their elitism governing ways has finally caught up - they've adopted the same PLP bad ways that cost them their governing privileges.
Who could've imagined back in 2017 the day soon arrived when a once welcomed red coats MP would be publicly humiliated by his own Abacoians likes what occurred this past Friday day - **all captured on video with shouts of, look at him running from his own PopoulacesOdinary - he thinks he's too important to walk amongst his own Abacoians**
There is a body of growing evidence tracking performances the 35 House elected red coats MP's that **no out island constituency seat is goin' be a returning safe seat for any the 35 red coats MP's.** Nod once for yeah, Twice for no?
Posted 24 May 2020, 4:39 a.m. Suggest removal
Clamshell says...
Hey, Tal ... will you *ever* learn how to spell “populace” correctly? Ever? Here’s a hint: there’s only one “O”. You’re welcome.
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:19 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
that was pretty odd. the whole thing was odd. Maybe after the weather the previous weekend some claiming to have experienced unusually high winds, they may have calculated a political *salami* of the apocalyptic kind if those bodies were still in the trailer and we got an early hurricane. There really was no other reason for the rush job and lack of family consultation after waiting almost 9 months to bury them. It was pretty disgraceful to sit in a shaded seat of honour as family were barricaded on the side of the road, in the sun, monitored by police with guns...it's unbelievable really. Who planned that?
Posted 24 May 2020, 8:42 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
In light of the new cases. Can we please stop the daily *1, 2, 3 days with no cases reported* reporting? Its literally meaninglessness without a testing program. The statistic that do have meaning are no deaths or hospitalizations for an extended period. You can't miss those 2 things. But with no testing you can miss infections.
Posted 24 May 2020, 9:07 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
Well we added another 15 to the roll. Regis says cost was an issue in acquiring more test kits. I think when all of the bills come and when the budget comes, we would have spent hundreds of millions on everything else from signage and advertising, to Works and public services, to welfare to bailouts to SOEs, etc.
The quagmire is this. If we do roll out mass testing and they do so on the family islands what happens when they find cases? The premise of the selective reopenings is unpinned on "no presence of COVID-19".
Assume we got 50,000 tests and they go to a few of these islands and mass test and realize that actually there are 100 cases across those islands for example, but they're just asymptomatic.
Do they shut t those islands back down and when do you ever lift it back? Furthermore if the premise of those islands reopening is that they have no cases, is that the case for Nassau as well? But again how do you know if you don't test?
Posted 24 May 2020, 9:43 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
Completely agree. If they could have done it early, captured maybe a few hundred people, isolated them etc...now we d be trying to catch a tiger by the tail. We've defaulted to herd immunity. Unless a benefactor gets us 2 million tests.
Posted 24 May 2020, 1:58 p.m. Suggest removal
happyfly says...
if Minnis has his way we will stay in lockdown forever and he gets to make up new laws when he has coffee in the morning.
Posted 25 May 2020, 9:10 a.m. Suggest removal
ConchFretter says...
While we are at it, let us also get rid of the reporting of “no recent travel history”. It is a moot point now as community spread has become the predominant mode of spread within the country.
Posted 25 May 2020, 9:37 a.m. Suggest removal
TalRussell says...
The foreigners cannot be blamed for having anything to do with Friday's announced **mass burial of the 55 identities of the unknown bodies.**
Just imagine had the former PM Perry Gladstone pulled off something even remotely as glaringly **slap in faces** aimed at the grieving Abacoians forced to stand under the blistering hot sun to look, as gross as what red coats did on Friday? Nod once for yeah, Twice for no?
Posted 24 May 2020, 10:19 a.m. Suggest removal
WETHEPEOPLE says...
You can barricade all ya doors and windows, sit people as far as you want on planes, sanitize everything you want, you can still contract the virus. Without adequate testing all these measures will be futile in the end. Actually even with adequate testing it will still be futile because the numbers will be more, longer lockdowns, more depressed people, more domestic violence, and even more broken economy. This one of those cross ya fingers and push on type situations.
Posted 24 May 2020, 12:40 p.m. Suggest removal
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