Why do we allow a group of persons who are attracted to the same sex to change common sense institutions of marriage, family and biological sex which have existed from the dawn of time? Why do we tolerate them calling those who disagree with their views intolerant, bigots, homophobes or worse? Why do we allow choice to be called an immutable characteristic? One can always ask why!

Why do we allow a corrupt, homophobic institution full of self-righteous, self-appointed babbling preachers (aka bigots) to brainwash us into believing that you have to go through them, if you want to find a mythical man (isn't it funny how it's always a man?), and that he is watching us every second of the day, just waiting for us to commit a sin (such as being attracted to the same sex) so he can dispense lightning justice.

... you just had to use teh 'H' word right Bob! Your views of biblical Christianity, the historical Jesus and the message He taught (both salvation and judgment) are medieval and grossly distorted!
Remember, a society has to get its values of right and wrong from somewhere, I have found that if those values originate from an individuals personal views of right and wrong they will always embrace self promoting, pleasure seeking and destructive values! Hence the high rates of addiction, depression and mental illness in countries with liberal humanistic values.

There is research on the books which suggests that those who are most homophobic often have strong repressed homosexual tendencies. Read some of the psychological literature. Freud, despite all the flaws is a good starting point.

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I always marvel at how quick the rabid anti-religious types come out of the closet anytime the BCC makes a public statement, you would think that we are living in the Christian equivalent of the Islamic Republic of Iran or Saudi Arabia with how quick they are to spew vitriol towards all things religious. Please wake up people, no religious institution has any say in legislating over your lives in this country. No church is forcing you to live your life a certain type of way.

When it comes to same-sex unions, please take a good look at how corrupt and degenerate the United States currently has become to the point where pedophilia has started to become openly pushed, in addition to extending this "transgender" demented foolishness to young people. It always starts off as wanting to be accepted, and then it is same sex unions, and then marriage, and then it is having men in dresses share the same bathroom with women, and then it is injecting your kids with hormone replacement therapy and puberty blockers while mutilating themselves through surgery to only die a horrific death by suicide when they become adults in most cases. Please wake up and see that the degeneracy will never end, it is best not to give into it in the first place. They are already trying to normalize pedophilia with films such as Cuties and using innocent-sounding terms such as MAP (minor-attracted person), and they will push bestiality and necrophilia as the next items up for acceptance when they are finished. We have enough problems as it is with our Bahamian society, we do not need to import the worst of America over here to compound our issues.

I don't think all of the US is like you say it is. Some states embrace same sex marriage while others don't. Certainly there are many other countries (especially in Europe) which offer a counterpoint to your skewed belief. These are typically countries that don't have a strong religious culture so transgenderism and same sex marriages etc. 'fit in' with the normal culture.
If you think religion is guilt free, why are there so many proven cases of sexual abuse/molestation by male clergy against young boys. And, I don't even want to bring up the topic of FGM on religious grounds.

Did I ever imply that religion is guilt free? The Church is comprised of sinful humans, of course there are going to be waywards that end up giving it a bad name. I would encourage you to compare the rates of reported abuse in various churches, and then compare it to the general public. You will realize how easy it is to fall for a certain agenda that the media pushes. You only hear about it in certain places and not the others...

When it comes to FGM, I do not know a single church in the Bahamas that condones the practice. You can correct me if I am wrong, I have not canvassed every church in the country. Some church in the backwaters of Africa may support the practice, but I highly doubt that it would be condoned here. If a church does support it, shame on them. No where in the Bible, or in any Church teaching, have I ever seen/know of support for the practice.

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2020/au…

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-town…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl…

I can post a million links here if I wanted to. Same sex marriage was legalized on the federal level by the Supreme Court in 2015, and the pace of the descent into this filth has only accelerated since then. You are 100% right that Europe is divided East vs. West when it comes to the LGBT movement, and I support nations such as Poland, Hungary, and Russia 100% when it comes to protecting their nations from this vile disease. It wasn't enough for these people to keep their perversions private, they had to force it on the children as well.

Fooling around with the LGBT movement is like opening Pandora's box; once you open it, there is no putting it all back in. We would be very wise to keep that box closed.

The Catholic Church has by far the highest incidence of rape and child abuse of any organization in this world.

And when it’s leader endorsed a form of “legal union” for gays lesbians etc, the world responded as though it just heard from a moral authority!

The same leader ( the pope) is the one who does the most to hide and protect the worlds most prolific child abusers in his own organization.

It’s abundantly clear that the path forward does not include contemplation of anything or anyone religious!

Based on what data is able to be collected, it appears the pedophilia is a much more rampant issue in the various Protestant denominations. The educational system also has a problem with it as well, yet we only hear about one organization in particular constantly in the media spotlight. I will put two links below, the research study is a lengthy read (I don't blame you if you skip through it)

https://stopabusecampaign.org/2018/01/0…

https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/p…

For the record, I don't support the hiding or covering up of any abuse what goes on. When it is discovered, it needs to be quickly dealt with and the offender made an example of. At the same time, I think we should keep things in perspective about the scale of the issue. It is a problem for many organizations, yet the media only seems to cover it in the Catholic Church.

It is important to note that the Pope was not speaking ex-cathedra, or on behalf of the Church, when he made that statement. That was his own personal opinion, which he is entitled to have. Whether that was a wise idea or not, we will see. It certainly has created a lot of confusion among the faithful.

I do not think that you will ever be able to create an irreligious society, the concept of God is as old as humanity itself. All the ancient Greek, Roman, Phoenician, Egyptian, etc. societies all had a concept of a god(s) to worship, belief in a higher power is the default natural state of humanity. Even in Europe, the dethroning of Christianity by secularism has only resulting in the growth of Islam on the continent. Someone will always fill the power vacuum.

*No where in the Bible, or in any Church teaching, have I ever seen/know of support for the practice*.

I never said it was a Christian practice. I said 'religion' There are other religions besides Christianity, you know,

Oh, and homosexuality is not a disease, you can't catch it from someone. You've been listening to too many of those self-righteous homophobes in dresses again

Given that we are in the Bahamas, the predominant faith is Christianity (of various denominations). There are other faiths here, but given the context, I think that it would be safe to assume Christianity should be the focal point of discussion.

When I referred to disease, I meant the LGBT movement. It is a cancer that destroys the fabric of society. If we want to be technical, homosexuality was at one point listed as a mental illness by the DSM as well (removed for political reasons).

Lol. I do not know a single person that is afraid of a homosexual, I only wish that they keep whatever they do in private to themselves. This is the thing that the LGBT zombies do not get, no one really cares what you do in the privacy of your own home; however, there is a line drawn when it comes to pushing your degeneracy on everyone else. If walking around in a dress is your fancy, go ahead, but do not expect me to play along with your delusion and then try to charge me with "hate speech" for calling a spade a spade and not wanting my children to be a part of your lifestyle.

The LGBT drones need to understand that they would have life a whole lot easier if they just kept their mouths shut, nobody really cares whether you are gay, bi, etc. It is when they start pushing their lifestyles and delusions onto everyone else, and charging everyone who voices opposition to your lifestyle with crimes, that people start to get pissed off. Most of them have a massive persecution complex, and end up creating issues for themselves.

What religion supports FGM though? The only one I can think you attributing it to is Islam, since most FGMs occur in Islamic countries. But even still, that's a tribal practice as Islam doesn't require it and numerous fatwahs have been issued against it. So no major world religion supports it. In fact, rates of FGM have been down since after colonialism, so it would be safe to say that the growth of Christianity and Islam in Africa has actually helped to extinguish the practice. And how can the West oppose FGM and circumcision, especially when voluntarily, but support men getting their penises bludgeoned in the name of feeling like a woman?

Ms. Wallace,

I more than appreciate your viewpoints. You are obviously a compassionate thinker. My personal sentiments are, having lived in and spent time in a number of different countries, that we are about as intellectually backwards as they come. The vast majority of the pastors are morons, to put it charitably. The lack of desire to learn and understand is more than evident in most every aspect of our national lives. From the ranking of our Covid response, to our academic achievements as a country, to the failings of nearly every Bahamian enterprise, to the prominence of idiots leading the so-called church, to the mathematical realities that we are basically bankrupt as a country. You don't have to have wisdom to see the writing on the wall. It is more than apparent that we have failed in most ways as a society. Don't look at the US as the source of all our problems. We have had enough time for our own people to "lead" whereby the fact that we have failed as a society can be laid squarely at our own feet. The Tribune comment pages alone illustrate the level of racism, sexism, corruption and mendacity which prevails. Ms. Wallace, you will be a voice in the wind for the rest of your life. Your viewpoints represent what Christ would say to his fellow world travelers. We are not a Christian country. We are a group of people who don't care to know or to care. The statistics on most every available metric on Bahamian society all point to failure. Worse, we remain proud and don't seem to give a shit. I can think of no worse combination.

You are so correct that we are intellectually backwards.

That is what it is to be religious, to base thoughts and reason solely on an outdated book of nonsense and block out any and all modern thought and empirical evidence.

Looking through the eyes of religion is the same as closing your eyes.

If we simply focussed on things that actually affect our democracy like a Freedom of Information Act and Campaign Finance Reform, all the other smoke and mirror stuff they try to distract us with could get sorted out. Why can't the Press relentlessly call for a Freedom of Information Act every single day a paper is published until it passes?

It’s a simple answer. Freedom of information would be a tool against corruption/ crony capitalism etc!

The press is owned by the ruling class. What is good for a corrupt politician is also good for the elite ruling class.

The system is genius, and the people fools.

It’s a like obtaining a gold star for a government to be deemed competent incompetent, rather than corrupt.

Truth is, with a system so perfectly run for the ruling class, there is no possible way they can be incompetent when it comes to anything else, they just choose to hide behind incompetent appearance, to mask there systemic corruption

In order to push their agenda, persons may appear to be caring when if fact they have mastered the art of dissembling. Societal violence is rooted in our indoctrination. In order to change violent behavior our indoctrination must change by way of restrictions to access harmful television, movies, books, internet content, etc... Since we live in a degenerate permissive society that will not happen meaning violence and degenerate behaviors will never be rooted out.

Bahamians PAY to have the church run their lives. They go every Sat/Sun and make a payment. If they did the same at BPL, no light would get cut off. In the Bahamas, the President of the Christian Council is the de-facto Prime Minister, and we all know it.

The majority want it to be this way - just like the Mullahs in Iran - so there is no problem here. The people are getting exactly what they want. That is democracy in action.

Matthew 7:15