Big Surprise!

The blame the unvaccinated game is 100% false according to UK, Israel, Denmark and Iceland. Fauci gave him his talking point needed yesterday on MSM. Just crazy that new strains appeared after nations like Israel, Iceland and Denmark got such an almost 100% vaccination. Delta strain did not appear before vaccination. We should learn from other nations with near 100% vaccinated now all sick meaning the Covid pass will automatically lock down the nation.

If someone tested posative for Covid as we are seeing around the world with vaccine push more so by millions after vaccine among the vaccinated and unvaccinated. It is mathematically impossible in medical logic that a negative host could infect a neutral host. But when a vaccinated host appears both neutral and negative host become ill. Simple petri dish medical logic process of eliminations. Political medicine is poor for this nation.

As long as the slaves cry out for the shackles, the master will happily place them around both hands and feet. Many in this country, if asked, would say that continued and/or increased restrictions are necessary. They want to apply the same tactics that have not worked for 18 months. They refuse to consider other options and seem to believe that hundreds are dropping dead every day from Covid.

Should caskets and urns be made duty and VAT free? Should volunteers assemble at the ports to help offload the cargo ships? Or are the bodies being taken directly to the harbour?

I hope you wasn't referring to Bahamians as slaves because other things also cry out and also cry.

Of course not. Everyone knows we have freedom under the Constitution. We can stand together knowing that.

Yawn

Minnis let it go...there is no need for this. Take the W you did the best you could when there was limited data - now there is data - we know masks are pointless outside, pointless inside too, social distancing is pointless, lockdowns don't work, curfews are pointless, kids don't get sick and should be school...vaccines will help the elderly and vulnerable deal with sickness in the short term..pointless for the young and healthy..

So you have one job left - Focus on securing vaccines for those who want them and let the rest of the country rebuild and move on before another bloody h****cane (don't want say it loud) rips through here and adds to your woes...

Your so fullnof bs. "Kids don't get sick" so amongst hundreds of young people inder 40 a child of 5 died from covid.. You need to go to hospital (ICU) and watch those unlucky enough to have covid gasping to breathe, In the UKZ 95% of covid hospital admissions are under 40. I do agree there is no one complete solution but every little helps especially vaccination.

Many of the younger deceased are asmatics. Place yhem in a vulnerable group.

OMG - LOL the poop you have plenty of!

332 kids died covid in the USA over 1.5 years... There is greater risk swimming, cancer, Suicide, Homocide, Flu or suffocation.. Please come back when you've done some research..

1 child child of 5 died in The Bahamas because of covid - how many have died in gun violence the last 12 months?

Think About it - They are coming back from Summer Break to extend the Emergency Orders. They aren't concerned enough about the pandemic to take a break in the first place but now the emergency orders are expiring they can find the time to get together and extend them. Oh no, wait ! What a coincidence that the reported number of cases went up tenfold the week before the emergency orders were set to expire. What a crazy coincidence. And how does this happen? Because an unelected Governor-General shill thinks it's OK to flush our constitution down the toilet at the first sign of a runny nose

SUCH WAS TO BE EXPECTED!
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How else could Minnis justify locking the country down or having the people under emergency orders, then abandoning the orders now when the country is seeing its greatest numbers of new cases?
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AND LETS NOT OVER EXAGGERRATE the numbers of new cases. Whilst there is definitely cause for concern and maybe even a bit more restrictions, REMEMBER the country is doing MORE TESTTING and RETESTING than ever before. AND some persons may be retesting on their own initiative. REPORTS are that some people test positive, then negative, then negative again in a matter of days REPORTS also are that if an unvaccinated person come in contact with vaccinated people, they can test positive for the virus.
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So what does this do for Minnis.' rumored plans for an early Election? Assuming he extends the Emergency Orders by 60 days, that pushes into mid October, so he can call it in mid-late November (which will interfere with Thanksgiving) , then after that its the Christmas Season, so that pushes his options into next year. Then it will be an issue of early in the year, before Easter then after that he MAY as well go the full term.
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THE US has seen sharp declines in the numbers of new cases (up to 79%) over the last two days. If they can maintain that decline or even keep the curve flat for at least seven days, it will be a strong indication as to where the pandemic is headed,
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The UNITED KINGDOM also saw sharp declines in its numbers of new cases just the week prior. There was no explanation for the decrease except that herd immunity had set in and so the virus was on its last wave, then it was goodbye.
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DR DUANE SANDS estimates that one in every three Bahamians tests positive for the Covid -19 virus. That translates into at least ONE THIRD of the Bahamian population having the virus in some shape or form. Will natural immunity soon kick in and the virus begin to disappear or does the fact that the country have wide open borders delay or prevent that from happening?

Sorry but your absolutely wrong about the UK. Mass vaccination now under 40's means most of the population has been vaccinated. Day after day on the news are people who denied the value of being vaccinated are featured on tv dying in hospital and publicly stating they wish they had been vaccinated. Florida has seen a steep increase in infection rates. Problem is most have never seen first hand the sufffering of covid patients or the unknown effects of long covid. Funny how many of the writers or anti vaxers will rush to seek medical help if they are unlucky enough to catch covid . .

SO ARE YOU DENYING THE UK HAS FLATTENED ITS CURVE? You sounds like a total Vaccinated, brainwashed idiot. So are you saying unvaccinated people should not have the right to seek treatment if they get ill. So what about vaccinated people who get a breakthrough illness and probably have been spreading the virus? Should they also be denied medical care...stay off the vaccine dude.

as long as the majority believes this BS they can do whatever they want....

AND YES, The UNITED KINGDOM, has bent its curve and even as of yesterday continues to maintain flat (no increase) or declining numbers of new cases. The significance of this is that The DELTA strain originated in EURPOE and made its way here. So f they are now able to bend their curve ( and its not just the UK), that may be what this part of the world will be looking at within the next 7-14 days. (this is based on statistical data and not medical science). It may be disappointing tosome who are still on a vaccine drive.

Actually Delta strain originated in India in October of last year (or least was first recognised there)...significance of that is that it infected nearly 700 million people (based on the seroprevalence reports) in 4-6 months but with only 300k deaths (possibly a few more undetected)..which statistically speaking is minor... India crushed the curve and did so without vaccines...

Because off the most sucessful vaccination program in Europe.

OMG you are so clueless - I bet you have no idea more vaccinated people are dying of delta that unvaccinated in Uk... You probably think Israel is doing really great too...

Ahh, my favorite Cherry Picker

From the Natural News website *"The vast majority of those now dying with covid are people who were VACCINATED against it," . "Public Health England (PHE) just released a new report showing that at least 62 percent of all deaths associated with the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) are occurring in people who were already 'vaccinated.'"*

Also, from the same article *"this same report shows vaccinated people are "three times more likely to die" from the delta variant compared to those who aren't vaccinated"*

The claim stems from a Public Health England briefing released June 25, but it both drastically overstates the nature of the data and botches the math.

But British officials say that's nonsense because no such data actually exists yet.

The public health report only identified the vaccination status for the delta variant deaths. For the time period in that report, the delta variant was responsible for 117 of the 4,408 COVID-19 deaths in England, less than 3%. The post, however, presented the claim as if it was referring to all deaths..

Oh bobby my favourite lost little sheep - we really must stop meeting like this....appreciate the attention but alas you really can't keep up...you're quoting stuff from an article that is way way outdated. I have never claimed that PHE reports reflect total deaths and like my comment above I reiterate they reflect the delta virus only. Why are talking about stuff from June 25th - the last PHE report was August 6th...I know you don't like posting links (I know - heaven forbid - one might find out where you get your information from) but be dear and let's take a look when your "quotes" are from? Because they're total tosh -

Current data is the following:

300k in cases of the delta on record.

151k of those are unvaccinated, 253 Deaths
93k of them partially vaccinated or vaccinated 471 Deaths

Of course bare in mind the data we're talking references minuscule fatality rates - this is purely academic - the delta virus poses little threat to anyone except backward countries with crappy health care and obese populations - oh wait...

Meanwhile in Israel (where they are so confident in vaccines effectiveness that re-vaccinating the elderly) the boosters aren't going so well..

https://www.timesofisrael.com/tv-14-isr…

Your quote
*"I bet you have no idea more vaccinated people are dying of delta that unvaccinated in Uk"*

Totally misleading, as usual. Please provide a recent link to your source (I know you love to post links, and this one I will read).

Anyone with a basic understanding of science and/or statistics, would qualify that statement. It doesn't take into account age, underlying illness, pre-existing conditions etc.
You really do seem to lack the scientific acumen necessary to understand the articles you read. If you did, you would know that correlation does not always equal causation.

The majority of people killed in auto accidents wear seatbelts (Bahamas excepted). Does this mean we should not wear seat belts ?

And one, from one of my Math professors. In 1973, 90% of people killed in airplane crashes, ate pickled onions. Does this mean that if you eat pickled onions you are more likely to be involved in an airplane crash ? No, it means, that pickled onions were served on a plane that crashed.

You should stick to the male pregnancy pill, as that had me smiling. !!

*Current data is the following:
300k in cases of the delta on record.
151k of those are unvaccinated, 253 Deaths 93k of them partially vaccinated or vaccinated 471 Deaths*

Again, you are not painting the whole picture. Since the majority of people are now vaccinated, of course the proportion of vaccinated deaths will be higher. Why is so hard for you to grasp that relatively simple mathematical concept ? Do you not get it ?

Try looking into Simpson's Paradox. It might help you, and many others here, understand the pitfalls of statistics and proportions.

I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall, trying to explain this simple math to you ? Or are you just being purposely obtuse, and a troll ?

Here's a simple experiment for all you non-critical thinkers and conspiracy theorists.

Let's say 100% of people in the UK (or, for that matter, any other country) are fully vaccinated. Some of these people will still get infected and die, so 100% of Covid deaths will be in vaccinated people, but that doesn't mean the vaccines aren't effective at saving lives.

Similarly, let's say 100% of people in a country (like in Haiti currently) are UNvaccinated. Some of these people will also get infected and die, so 100% of Covid deaths will be in UNvaccinated people. That doesn't mean all those people will survive if they had been vaccinated, or all of those people would have died if they had been vaccinated.

See how cherry picking data can be misleading ?

Come on bobby I'm sure the beetles were more interesting than this?
We all (I think) understand basic statistics and that sample size matters -

If you test a pregnancy prevention pill on a sample of only men your product is going to look awesome..but it's probably a poor reflection on reality..we get it - really!

However If you tell 100% of the population to get vaccinated or else you can never join society again, because these vaccines are going to 100% protect you from hospitalisation and death and stop the pandemic, you're going to 100% look "misleading" when it's anything less...

(I know how you love links)

www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-…

www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/02/…

and if you in the pregnancy prevention business...well..

Why are you providing links from February ? Touche !

CDC just admitted that more cases are showing up in unvaccinated because vaccinated are only tested if hospitalized. Also recent research revealed that the natural immune response is more powerful and lasts longer than the vaccine.

Thank you! Can you send a link - I have been saying this for weeks...but could only back it up by individual Hospital policies.

Based on CDC today's update Minnis is forced to accept new reality today.

https://www.oann.com/cdc-limited-eviden…

A couple of things to take note of, that's a republican leaning site do they will grab onto anything to discredit vaccination programs. The study cited doesnt say what you're implying. Yes there is a statement that there's limited evidence on the efficacy of the vaccine in preventing reinfection, but at the same time it says their study of Kentucky residents showed unvaccinated were 2.34 times more likely to be reinfected than vaccinated people.

That said Im personally beginning to wonder if vaccinate everybody is really necessary. 95% of the population everywhere have not gotten sick and obesity seems to be a ginormous factor in severe infections. Even if we look at the accounts of pregnant women... what do they have in common with obese people???

https://sputniknews.com/europe/20210809…

Don't know why the post was removed. It only showed what we could expect if we follow the same path to 93% vaccination that Denmark achieved, but now the population is sick.

CDC Bahamas says vaccinated could spread and get Covid. But it holds for all persons vaccinated and unvaccinated. All should use latest guidelines and mask up.

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/co…

The most vaccinated countries in the world has more than half the world's numbers of new cases. The US alone has one third of new cases. Vaccinated countries tend to have a steeper curve than non vaccinated countries, meaning they have more cases occurring at the same time rather than cases spread out over a period of time. Factors that tend to contribute to increases in new cases:
1. When a country starts mass vaccination drives.
2. A country that doesn't adhere to the original safety protocols, including mass wearing, social distancing, avoiding large crowds.
3. A country or population that has numerous people leaving and reentering the country or population (history of travel). The islands with frequent travelers has increased numbers of cases.
4. A country of population that has numerous people entering and leaving. (Porous borders, like The Bahamas with its tourism). Notice the islands with the greatest amounts of tourists also has the greatest amounts of cases.

Im dumbfounded that Minnis DAguilar and Wells whistled past the graveyard for an entire year as tgey ignored the link between tourists and rising cases. Every single time we had an exponential increase in tourism numbers we also experienced an exponential increase in COVID infections hospitalizations and deaths.

Can someone say what happens when a visitor to The Bahamas tests positive for Covid-19?

1.Are the numbers added to the island they are visiting when they test positive fro the virus or
added to their home country's numbers?

1. Are they allowed/required to remain in the country until they test negative or are they allowed to leave? Obviously this may depend on mode of travel, commercial craft, private craft or cruise ship
2. and what about hospitalizations?
3. And are medical authorities here under any requirement to report the status of these individuals to their country of destination?

Alt 1: If they're staying at Baharmar that 14 night paid in a suite, 150 per person for food or a free jet back home.

Alt 2 : If they're staying anywhere else they don't tell anyone check out and check in to another hotel or air Bnb for two weeks to 'quarentine' - three weeks later contact tracer still won't know where they went.

Alt 3: They avail of the Ponzi scheme insurance they must purchase to enter which will cover 700 dollars per day accommodation (good luck finding someone that wants and or has availability for a covid positive guests during the busy season) or if they are hospital worth they can avail of 50k worth of air ambulance coverage.

Alt 4: They never took the test because they didn't stay 5 days they just spread some germs around while we get locked down..

He will NEVER let those Emergency Powers go........NEVER!!

Sounds like he will force mandate vaccinations. All vaccinated nations are now Covid sick. Sad when a prime Minister have to scream on God to force vaccination rather than science. I wonder which God he is asking us to serve. We need to see his profit sheet.

Gov is cherry picking information to cooinside with their greed and power control over us. CDC says something that does no fit them forcing vaccinations they ignore it or deem it misinformation. Case in fact

https://www.rt.com/usa/530741-cdc-vacci…

They are so shanful and lies to us by withholding truth. Medical research anti logic 101. non vaccinated Police with negative covid test infront of living neutral host. host does not get Covid. Vaccinated Police 2 in front of neutral living host with Police 1. both Police 2 and neutral host get sick. what is the logical medical deduction?Both of our doctors should loose their medical degrees. blaming Bahamian non vaccinated for passing something on not in their bodies is criminal.and mal practice..

**Wait for it** when the House of Assembly reconvenes tomorrow in response to the alarming resurgence of COVID-19 cases — surprising sparks from within **deepening, breaking ranks** red party's elected — going present **Thee** Mr. Minnis with a taste reminder to take him back when the former governor-general — had to royally step in to restore **cracked leadership** within what was **Her Majesty's** loyal opposition red party, — yes?