Is this good news? I don't understand. The vaccine is 60% effective, not accepted by some European countries, not recommended for anyone over 65, developed for developing countries, and not approved by the FDA, an American institution, so really nothing to do with European policies. The vaccine produced by Pfizer and Moderna is 94% effective. No matter where you go in the world, 60% is a failing grade. I guess , just like our D average. We shut the country down because of our citizens over the age of 65 , and now, we get a vaccine that doesn't work on them? Where is the logic in this?

What are you talking about?

Good morning Newcitizen.

Bahamianson is talking about an article in the Financial Times this morning (2.3.21) and I quote "public health agencies in Sweden, Poland and Austria put limits on the age of people allowed to receive the Oxford/AstraZeneca jab, raising fears that the vaccine might not be as efficacious in people who are over 65."

Thank you Observer2

Exactly it's the Europeans having a fit of peak becuase the EU's incompent
commisoners cocked up in their ordering the AZ Oxford vaccine , in fact the up to date news is that those in their 7Os and 80s in the U.K. who have had their first dose, tests have shown in blood tests that it is up to 66 to 70 % effective in not only preventing a full on Covid-19 infection but also spreading it, something the Pfizer one has yet to prove on its first dose.

Talking sense!!!

EU are just mad at the UK because of Brexit, so of course they want to poo, poo it LOL! Actually this vaccine is a great one for the Bahamas to have access to, and safer as it will be better to store and administer.

AstraZeneca is headquarter in the UK and Europe.

Why is it we always run to Europe for their inferior products, high rate government debt from Switzerland, horrible diesel power plants from Shell Netherlands, horrible planes from Airbus Italy, Defense Force boats not made for Bahamian waters from Europe and Chinese hotels?

Why couldn't we get the Pfizer, Morderna or JnJ vaccines from the United States? These vaccines have no clouds or questions and are +94% effective.

Why do we have to deal with these questionable multilateral organizations like the WHO and the IMF. Can you believe the WHO just got into China to investigate the origins of the virus. And these are the same ppl we are relying on?

We have the most biotechnologically advanced country at our door steps but yet we run to Europe. I wonder why? Europe is constantly blacklisting us through the FATF...and now they want to save us....what a joke.

The Europeans and Canadian are destroying our tourism economy by stopping all direct airlift from their Countries. The Canadian banks are dividending out tens of millions of dollars in hard currency with their inferior banking systems.

The Americans are working with us by keeping the airlift and tourism going but we never give them any big business.

But we all know the reason for this.

I guess it's not unreasonable to expect the inferior vaccines in terms of low efficacy rate and limited testing would be doled out by the Red China controlled WHO to 'third world' countries like ours that cannot afford to pay for the superior lower risk vaccines for which there is great demand in the developed countries like the US. From my own personal perspective, if the Minnis-led administration can't arrange for a sufficient supply of the superior vaccines, then I'd just as soon go without any vaccine. But that's just me.

J&J vaccine isn't approved yet. Also it's a joint effort with Janssen who are a European company.

> “The AstraZeneca vaccine has received emergency use Listing approval from WHO.”

*Translation:* No long term studies have been done to determine possible harmful effects of this vaccine down the road, especially for the most vulnerable 65+ age group. And that being the case, it's highly unlikely much (if any) testing was done on the possibly adverse effects for people of African descent.

> Some countries have placed limits so far on the AstraZeneca vaccine. Germany has said it will not recommend the Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine for people aged 65 and over.

Clearly the development of this particular vaccine was not targeted to help those most vulnerable to the Red China Virus, i.e. persons age 65+ with pre-existing medical conditions.

According to AstraZeneca itself, the efficacy rate of its vaccine is only about 62% compared to 90%+ for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

And apparently a second dose of this vaccine must be given within 4 to 12 weeks of the first dose. This means 100,000 doses will only vaccinate 50,000 people to achieve the unusually low efficacy rate of 62% for those persons receiving the second dose within the stipulated timeframe.

I guess we keep in mind too that AstraZeneca has an aggressive drug development history that is replete with many major lawsuits it has had to settle for millions and millions of dollars; more so than most of its big pharma competitors.

I wonder if my physician would be kind enough to give me a medical certificate stating that I'm allergic to all COVID-19 vaccines.

Spoken like someone who has absolutely zero understanding of what is involved in vaccine & drug approval. Embarrassing !

Spoken like someone who's looking forward to being on the cheaper and higher risk vaccine gravy train if it ever builds up enough steam in our country. lol

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According to AstraZeneca itself, the efficacy rate of its vaccine is only about 62% compared to 90%+ for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.
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That's not quite correct that % is for the first dose an as I said above all UK +70 and + 80s of all races, recent tests on those age groups who have recieved the first does show efficacy of up to 75% before the 2nd dose !
The Pfizer efficacy of 90% is after the second dose not the first!
It is best to get facts an up to date information before ponticating.

Are you a sales agent for AstraZeneca? lol

The consensus views about AstraZeneca and its vaccine for the Red China Virus can be found on many internet websites not tainted by AstraZeneca's well known aggressive marketing practices.

No, he is exactly correct. Do some real research, for once

Tribanon- Aggressive Sales - Rubbish

The Oxford AV vaccine is being sold at cost unlike the US one!

Wait until you hear what Minnis & Wells have agreed to pay AstraZeneca's middle-man agent. lol

That's Minnis not AV if he is foolish to go that way don't blame AV
For the record the UK Government financed the Oxford University to carry out the research and agreed that AV make it and distribute it!

I am glad to see so much interest on the effectiveness of the coming vaccines. A good source of info on the subject is at https://www.bitchute.com/video/DrGXBKGg…

Just wait. They’ll probably swap out the AZ vaccine for the Chinese one at the last second. Then what? I ain’t taking that Chinese one!

lovingbahamas....you too the words right out of my mouth. Brazil is using the Chinese vaccine which doesn't work.

"A coronavirus vaccine developed by China's Sinovac has been found to be 50.4% effective in Brazilian clinical trials, according to the latest results released by researchers." BBC, 1.13.21.

Pleeezzzz, don't give them any ideas!

Bahamians seem to be doing a very great job of fighting off this virus and building up strong resistance to it. In fact, Corona cases are plummeting in most countries around the world, especially in the United States. Our spikes in numbers can be directly related to persons who travelled abroad or to people who travel here. I wouldn’t tow no line to take the vaccine. Continue to wear masks and follow other protocols and Covid-19 will soon be no more. Then seek out those who went to Alaska, dug through the permafrost to get this virus, revived and duplicated it and spread it around the world. That’s why the vaccines require such a below freezing degree of temperature. They originated from the frozen graves of Alaska. Crime against humanity at the highest degree!

From the Washington Post:.
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‘ Resurrecting 1918 Flu Virus Took Many Turns
By David Brown
October 10, 2005
It took a lot of digging to bring back to life the Spanish influenza virus of 1918. Some was done with invisible molecular primers in a PCR machine in Rockville. Some was done with pick and shovel in the frozen ground of Alaska.

Either way, it was a huge amount of work on a project whose chance of success at the start seemed very, very slim. Now, it will go down as one of the most astonishing technical feats in the history of science -- the viral equivalent of bringing dinosaurs back in the fictional "Jurassic Park."’

PS: they tell you that one of the new, highly contagious strain of the Covid-19 virus originated in South Africa, but they are not telling you that a lot of the testing for the vaccines was also done in South Africa where safety measures and testing guidelines on humans were also violated or totally bypassed.

Shakehead a quick once for Upyeahvote that although may not yet be declared an illegal act, you wouldn't be that much more stressed out with frustration if was learned if some colony's seen be amongst the more privileged elitists and **incompetents** - haven't done pulled out all the stops, clouts, money and political connections to have been administered a vaccine jab to they arms by private sources, Twice for Not?
stress how frustrating that is.

RT (Russia Today) and Al-Jazeera are reporting the glowing report of The Lancet medical journal relative to the Russian Sputnik V vaccine which is being used in South America and Eastern Europe. With the Ruble at about 75 for a US dollar, sounds like a good buy.

Word in the UK is the Russians hacked Oxford University, vaccine research :-)

A few actual FACTS for a change:
1. The vaccine is coming from Covax. They are trying to supply all countries equably, so the limit they will give any country is enough to vaccinate 20% of the population. We are lucky to get it.
2. It’s not that the AZ vaccine isn’t safe for over 65s, it just hasn’t been tested on that age group yet. Tests are ongoing.
3. It is at least 70% effective. That’s a whole lot better than nothing at all.
4. It is much cheaper than Pfizer or Moderna. Remember, other richer countries are paying for the Covax programme, not us. Don’t knock it.
5. Personally, I owe my life to another AZ drug, as do many others.
6. Why does everyone on here always try to find something to complain about?

Excellent post, and accurate !
And, if I might add, even at 70% effective it prevents many people from becoming seriously ill and keeps them out of hospital, which is one of the primary goals.

The article above says
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THE country is expected to receive up to 100,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine beginning the second half of this month through the second quarter of 2021, the Office of the Prime Minister has announced.
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It is both!

Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good. We have suffered too much, too long, and the people need relief and hope.

New "scary" 70% more infectious variants will magically coincidentally arrive simultaneously in the Bahamas with the vaccine!

Trusting sheeple will fight in long lines to get a jab that has no proven record of being safe or effective.

They've lied to us about everything imaginable under the sun, refuse to implement a Freedom Of Information Act, and now want us to "trust" them with an untested jab.

No thanks!!!

Not sure what the ranting is about.. its optional, so we need to speak for ourselves... if you not taking it, not need to worry about those who do.

I have to laugh at all the keyboard "vaccine experts and conspiracy theorists " on here. If you don't want your vaccine shot then that's fine - it leaves more for those who do.

The Oxford vaccine process was on the one that was devised to combat ebola in Africa.
NB the UK's publication The Lancet is saying that the Russian Sputnik V efficacy is very good too, they seem to be confident with the evidence that has been offered on it, bearing in mind the general distrust in the U.K. of anything the Russians say!

And the UK government and all of the virology experts in the UK have had a terrific track record todate in protecting UK citizens and residents from the Red China Virus and all of its variants. So let's just go with their vaccination programme. LOL

It's a pandemic in case you didn't realise! :-p