Giora Israel and Carnival have not been and never will be friends of The Bahamas, period!

In fact, the way our downtown district looks today is mainly attributable to decades of shady deals by the very greedy cruise ship operators involving our corrupt politicians. The deals cut have enabled the cruise line companies like Carnival and Royal Caribbean to pocket for themselves just about every dollar spent by their passengers.

Their very greedy business model will never be conducive to the economic development of The Bahamas and the well-being of the Bahamian people. And you only have to look at the way they have treated their Filipino crew members during the Red China Virus to understand just how ruthless these cruise ship operators are. Words like "sharing" and "fairness" simply do not exist in their business vocabulary and never will.

Maybe what Nassau needs is to rethink the entire permission of the cruise industry to come to the Bahamas. Then with the greater revenues it receives from visitors staying on hotels and greater employment from Bahamians working at hotels it will have the funds to regenerate itself. And if it doesn't, and all the tourists want to do is stay in their hotels and go to the beach, then you know what, fine, at least the Bahamas will have more money.

The guy bring up a valid point that our tourist offerings are pretty thin and you're response is that they should carry their ass? Maybe address the fact that what is says it true. Also, why would denying cruises cause more people to stay in hotels?

If tourists can't visit the Bahamas by cruise ship, some significant portion of them will visit the Bahamas by overnight hotel stay. That is why throwing them out would help the Bahamas. Looked another way, what has decades of increasing cruise ship sizes and numbers got us? $10 billion or so in debt. The yield per cruise ship visitor even multiplied times infinity is not enough to run the Bahamas, the math does not add up. The main product the Bahamas has to sell is warm sun and sand and it makes no sense to sell it on the cheap! Building museums, theatres all the rest of it will not make material, game changing differences, tho at the margins its not a bad idea.

I have no problem kicking cruise ships out, but the people who go on cruises will no be flying here instead. The Bahamas is one stop our of 5-10 on a cruise. They won't care that Nassau is left off. But that's besides the fact that cruise passengers won't fly here because they are cheap, or they like cruises. They won't suddenly have the money for an Atlantis stay with their family just because we shut them out of sailing here.

Firstly, Caribbean nations need to form a working group to ensure that regionally the cruise industry is properly regulated and policed more equitable to the benefit of resort destinations, instead of the cruise industry hogging up 80% of excursion tours by scaring tourist away from independent excursions because they don't profit from them!

Secondly, Bahamians with hands-on experience have been warning successive government administrations that our tourism product was dying for decades to absolutely no avail.

The powers that be never intended for average Bahamians to directly benefit from the tourism industry, which explains why today Bahamians do not own more of the tourism goose.

Especially without an MP's hands deep in your back pocket, there was absolutely NO WAY of getting into the mainstream tourist industry. We all know multiple individuals horror stories about people that presented opportunities to the government for excursions, only to be given the run around until they either stopped trying, or had the ideas stolen by MP's and given to friends, family, or lovers.

"The father of the nation" Prime minister Sir Lynden Pindling set the stage, and his proteges, Hubert Ingraham, and Perry Christie arrogantly followed his lead for the steady demise of tourism with heads held high, chest out, eyes wide open, brains off, and ears shut tight!

Despite a 1980's tourist departure survey pinpointing the lack of things to do as the worst part of a Bahamas vacation, successive "leaders" did absolutely nothing to resolve the problem.

A 1970 to 2020 comparison of tourism development between Nassau, Ft. Lauderdale, and Key West unquestionably reveals the Bahamas has been steadily moving backward. The fact is, there was more for tourists to do in Nassau in 1970 than there is today in 2021!

However, the icing on the cake is post-COVID-19, we will resume tourism with the same, or even worse broken 2020 product. We will have even more of the same bottom-of-the-barrel citizens on the front lines dealing with our tourists. Jet ski operators, hair braiders, hustlers, unimaginably rude & crooked taxi drivers, filthy inner-city, too few tours, etc'.

No politician will admit the country did not miraculously evolve to where we now find ourselves. We are where we are now because poor leadership lead us to this juncture.

How do we fix 50 years of systemic corruption, greed, and gross stupidity in a few short months?

Yield per overnight tourist is around $1000

Yield per cruise ship visitor is around $50

Even if you captured more of that $50, made it $60, made it $70 its still a horrible equation for the Bahamas to be in. Get rid of the equation. Kick out the cruise ships and we'll see more overnight visitors and get the $1000 yields this country needs to run itself without going into endless default and dispair and disrepair.

Any news on the damage to the sea beds by Carnival?

Better tourists and better tourist experiences & expectations will manifest if we aim higher, getting rid of the cruise industry will help us to aim higher.

No need to cut off our noses to spite our faces. The cruise industry should be limited to how many ships/passengers are allowed in port at any given time.

This would encourage more stay over visitors leading to greater in-resort spending and all around higher profits for the country.

Continuing to prostitute the country for the greedy cruise industry is a waste of time, environmentally disastrous and just stupid. But then our "leaders" thrive on stupid, so expect more of the same failing policies that brought us to nowhere!

Limiting is a good idea, but our workers can not fairly compete with overseas cruise workers who have no union and get like $2/hour. So its unfair competition. And the cruise lines pay no tax, dump at sea etc. So its unfair competition and very non sustainable. Better solution is just to bar them totally. Then the private sector will invest in more hotels without cruise lines to compete against them.

The main problem we will face when cruise ships do return is to find tourists willing to come on a cruise which involves a stay in The Bahamas. Right now our Tourism Minister has stated that he will not relax travel protocols for quite awhile. It is very complicated, expensive and time consuming to enter The Bahamas now with a short five day period from a test ( if a health centre can be found) to arrival. It is made more difficult with the bureaucratic Health Visa and the uncertainty of when permission to travel will be forthcoming. There are also so few flights. No wonder tourism has declined so steeply. People are unwilling to go through all these hassles. Can anyone think that cruise passengers would be willing to go through all these procedures? Yet our cruise personnel, tourism staff, hoteliers and even business people have not complained about these requirements which are destroying our major business. It is hard to believe .

We need to focus on encouraging the high end cruiselines and discourage the garbage Carnival cruises. Carnival's passengers never have spent any money in any event. What money they have Carnival sucks up on the ship.

Bay Street once had high end shops and nice restaurants until the cheap cruise line passenger masses scared off the money spending hotel tourists.

Bermuda has been much more selective when it comes to cruise lines. We could learn something from Bermuda.

The French islands bar them (cruise ships) for a reason. Its a fool's errand to chase ever more volume with ever less spend on island. Better to just focus on fewer tourists spending vastly more per visitor than chase declining returns while all the while the nation loses negotiating power with the cruise lines. After they own 90% of the Caribbean tourism market you will be a country in name only and have to take what crumbs they decide we should get. We need a strong hotel tourism industry under Bahamian regulation its the only way the tourism product can be protected and allowed to bring in the high spends per visitor the country needs.

According to this article, a 3 day Carnival cruise for a family of 4 costs $950.00. What activity can we possibly offer people on this type of budget? Dinner for 4 In Nassau will cost a third of the cruise cost. Visiting dolphins at Atlantis will cost half the cruise cost. Even the horses buggies are expensive for this crowd.

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