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*Restrictions to curb the spread of covid-19 have been reintroduced in the Seychelles due to rising cases, despite over 60 per cent of the population having been fully vaccinated. There are about 1000 active cases in the Indian Ocean archipelago, which has a population of 100,000. A third of the cases involve people who have had two vaccine doses" newscientist.com*

*This is really daunting news. Essentially 300 persons who've received 2 doses are currently infected. They need more data. Are those persons seriously ill and how were so many of them infected? We were led to believe that infections among vaccinated persons was a rarity.*

*If 60% of the population is vacinated that works out to approximately 60,000 people vaccinated. The story implies that not all of them have received 2 doses which makes the double dose vaccination infection rate even higher. but even at 60000, 300 out of 60000 is a very high failure rate. Can they determine if any of these vaccinated persons were the cause of other people getting infected?*

*Meanwhile this govt that refuses to listen, is saying vaccinated tourists can travel here with no test, roam about without masks and mingle as they chose. How many seriously unwise decisions will they make on this virus under the we've never dine this before mantra? Its not like people havent highlighted the possible risks.*

where are you living? **the danger is not in the number of persons who are not infected, its in the number who are**. Can the health system sustain it? If it can't then you have potential chaos, people needing regular assistance start dying, like mothers having babies or someone in a bad car accident.

If you consider what happened in Seychelles its pretty astounding. They only have a population of 100,000 and 1000 people are infected??? And out of the 1000, 300 are fully vaccinated??? Could you imagine the alarm if the 450,000 population Bahamas reported that 1000 people are currently infected and 300 of them have had 2 vaccine doses?? Their situation is 5 times more alarming.

And as far as I understand India produces most of the worlds vaccines under normal situations. So the fact that a vaccine came from that country is a moot point. Its the same formula.

What they really have to figure out is did any of the 300 become seriously ill and did they transfer the infection to anyone. Those are the important points. especially for this govt that's ready to hand the keys to the city to vaccinated persons

The lockdowns are making the rounds. We will be locked down before July 1.

The vacc inated are vectors.

Fact is that after this second dose here in the Bahamas, as around the world, thousands will become infected and many many will die. Thus will lead to plan A.

but mainly because the vaccinated are being given the message that they dont have to be careful. *Travel where you want, mingle with who you want*. not because theres some insidious plot to contaminate the vaccine

Vaccine hesitancy will soon increase. Many will not go on for their second dose.

Now they come to understand that they still can contract the disease, will need repeated vaccination ans their lives will continue to be disrupted.

Whether or not the vaccinated can transmit will remain a secret. Unless a vaccinated takes to an uncontacted tribe of the Indian Ocean.

Most scientists and epidemiologists postulate that ‘Heard Immunity’ does not happen until roughly 75% of a population is ‘immunized’, and that would only be for a particular infectious agent, not the ‘variants’. As such there is no quick fix or straightforward answer to how a population will be affected or respond to a particular strategy. Vaccinations save lives. It is one of the three major successes of the twentieth century that allowed for a near doubling of life expectancies in human populations. The Seychelles’ vaccination efforts although laudable have not yet achieved that majic number nor have they eliminated the possibility of variants so what is happening there now as they “open up” is not unexpected from a scientific point of view. No need to panic, just keep pressing on. As for the effectiveness of the vaccines they are using it’s better than the alternative (no vaccine) and better than most vaccines given annually for ‘the flu’. Many small nations, including our own are unlikely to get the mRNA vaccines until late 2022 or early 2023, so we have to use those available to us NOW.

You sound like Fauci. Rubberband science that fits anywhere to brainwash persons that that the vaccination succeeded but you still will need shots for the rest of your life, a must to wear masks indoors even with the vaccinated plus social distance from bioviable human droplets that cannot survive under sunshine. The greatest con game ever to hijack the tourist global multi trillion dollar industry. Just stop it. But to get the tourist engine running again you must become a vaccine slave for life.

agree with @cariton. The messaging on the vaccine didnt have any caveats. It was *get vaccinated and we're all saved.* Thats what I thought too, ..... until they reported the first infected vaccinated individual.... months ago. So it was a really weird move when Dr Minnis happily announced a week ago that vaccinated tourists come here (with their COVID variants) untested. Are they trying to fool COVID?