Tuesday, June 6, 2023
By NEIL HARTNELL
and YOURI KEMP
Tribune Business Reporters
ykemp@tribunemedia.net
Caribbean Bottling Company's top executive yesterday warned "you cannot tax a country into good health" amid private sector fears that a so-called 'sugar tax' will be a “poison pill” for small business.
Walter Wells, the local Coca-Cola producer's chief executive and president, told Tribune Business he was "encouraged" by the Prime Minister's confirmation that such 'sin taxes' will not be introduced in the near future.
Noting that the introduction of such a levy has been oft-debated for many years, he added: "It's nothing new to us in terms of being a possibility." Reforms to the Customs Management Act, tabled with the 2023-2024 Budget, enable the minister of finance to make regulations "providing for the payment of a health and wellness levy on the importation of specified goods, and domestically manufactured goods, deemed to have a negative impact on health and wellness".
Mr Wells said this merely gives the Government "a greater degree of flexibility as to when it happens. I cannot say that, in and of itself, alarms me. The Government always has the ability to do it when it wants to do it, but it normally happens in the Budget process.
"I cannot really debate whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. My position is that I would prefer to have no tax. If this is to be a tax, to what extent it would compromise our business from an industry standpoint, right now it's an open question. I'm certainly encouraged by the fact it's not something stuck in the Budget; take it or leave it," Mr Wells added.
The Caribbean Bottling chief, though, said sugary drinks are only part of the health and wellness issues facing Bahamians. "The debate makes it sound like sugary drinks are the cause of obesity in the country, and you and I know that's not true," he added. "It's calories in, calories out. If you eat more on a daily basis than you burn up, you gain weight. You cannot tax a country into good health, you need to educate the country into good health."
Kendrick Delaney, owner/operator of the New Duff, told Tribune Business that the Government would be better off implementing a national lottery rather than trying to implement a sugar tax that will not be effective in the long run.
"I believe that sugar taxes work extremely well as a revenue generator, but it's a poison pill for businesses, small businesses in particular, because the costs are really passed on to consumers, therefore making our products more expensive. I don't believe it's the best way to have the same outcome as reducing chronic care illnesses overall," he said.
“A better way to achieve that would be to be brave enough to ask the number houses to be nationalised and use those funds to train kids from a young age to learn the effects of sugar, fat and salt on their diets, as opposed to trying to fix this after the fact. Because if people are already addicted to sugar, how are we going to change that behaviour by increasing the cost of it on the business? It's not the best solution.”
Prime Minister Philip Davis, KC yesterday said there will be “no new taxes” on sugar products or otherwise. “We are attempting to cause Bahamians to understand what sugar is to their health. We have put a framework in place to determine whether or not it will be done, but nothing is happening in that regard and nothing is happening any time soon," he added.
“We're talking to industry to see how they're able to lessen sugar in the ingredients for sodas, etc, because the stats have shown it is one of the significant contributors to the non-communicable diseases, something that this country is struggling with as I speak. So know that that is not going to be done this year. I don't see it coming very soon either.”
Mexico implemented a sugar tax on soft drinks in 2014, and results have shown in a study in Health Affairs that purchases of taxed drinks have dropped by an average of 7.6 percent between 2012 and 2015. Additionally, purchases of untaxed beverages increased by 2.1 percent in the same study period.
Karla Wells-Lisgaris, director at Caribbean Bottling Company, added: “We are naturally reluctant to see any tax introduced that could compromise the viability of local manufacturing of such products, although we fully understand and agree that health and wellness of our people is of vital importance.
“We are not clear on what type of tax is being considered, and so it is premature to second guess the Government and we are pleased that dialogue and consultation will take place. Ultimately it is in everyone's interest to see improvement in our country's health profile. However, this will not happen without ongoing education.”
Nevette Cooper-Missick, owner/operator of Cake my Day, added: “I don’t know how I should feel about his. I’m going to be honest with you, cakes are not healthy, but cakes are not something you are supposed to be eating every day anyway. They are supposed to be for celebrations and special events.
“Too much of anything can be a bad thing for you. But I believe that anything that tries to take away personal freedoms, I have a problem with that because at the end of the day if someone wants to eat cake ten times a day that’s their free will. They can do that. I don’t think a tax would necessarily deter people from buying something that they want because if they want it they would spend the money to get it."
A snack-food wholesaler, speaking under the condition of anonymity, said that as a new business implementing a tax just as they are starting off will make things difficult for them. “Right now 100 percent juices are duty free, but if they go up on it it won’t be good for me. But it’s the Government and they can do what they want to do," they added.
Comments
ohdrap4 says...
> "It's calories in, calories out. If you eat more on a daily basis than you burn up, you gain weight.
This is the lie that Coca Cola popularized in the ad during the Super Bowl back in 1983 or 84.
Of course they had their own motives.
If they take away my Coca cola, I will get the Kool Aid recipe from birdiestrachan.
Posted 6 June 2023, 12:40 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
How is that a lie?
Posted 6 June 2023, 5:06 p.m. Suggest removal
ohdrap4 says...
Because it ignores the impact on insulin and blood sugar levels of sugar.
If you eat bacon, your blood sugar does not go up. And you do not get addicted to it
Not so with sugar .
When the low fat diets were taught to people, the food industry pumped it up with sugar.
That is why nowadays kids have diabetes type two and non alcoholic fatty liver disease.
The high fructose corn syrup in coca cola is the worst offender in fatty liver disease .
Posted 6 June 2023, 5:43 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
So as I often do when presented with something, I looked it up and it turns out that "*it depends*". Which is something we've always known about weight loss, it's an individual thing, what works for one person may not work for someone else. So its not a *lie*, it just "*depends*"... on the individual and their metabolic fitness
"*if somebody is metabolically fit and their insulin looks fantastic, but they're still not burning fat that we would like them too, then we have to start messing with calories*" -pureprescriptions.com
Posted 6 June 2023, 6:11 p.m. Suggest removal
ohdrap4 says...
The old coca cola ads never saud it depends.
It saud IT IS .
If anything, the Bahamian populations presents a very high incidence of metabolic diseases.
I am not even a doctor but I know many young people on dialysis because they never drink water, only juice and soda .
Posted 6 June 2023, 6:32 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
so I agree with you, those people are metabolically unfit. Our bodies were designed to burn calories for energy as we worked. We were never meant to be overweight. The fact that we've corrupted the system doesnt negate the way it was meant to work
Posted 6 June 2023, 7:15 p.m. Suggest removal
bahamianson says...
And does this tax benefit the bottle , sugar company? Sodas should be banned like PitBulls. Both kill indiscriminately.
Posted 6 June 2023, 2:08 p.m. Suggest removal
birdiestrachan says...
I disagree with this tax people have choices The God who made us gives us choices , If they keep up with this nonsense , they will soon put the over weight people in jail
Posted 6 June 2023, 3:54 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
You'll be safe, I remember you saying VAT was good for you and your kids because it would force you to eat less. This should have the same impact
Posted 6 June 2023, 5:07 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
ROTFL birdie actually call something the PLP proposed "*nonsense*"
Posted 7 June 2023, 1:37 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
"*you cannot tax a country into good health"*
2000% agree. This bill has **nothing** to do with health and everything to do with an increase in taxes. Wasnt it about 4 weeks ago that they were praising the openings of iHop and Sugar Factory? It makes no logical sense. Further weight loss as far as I know has nothing to do with the high price of bad choices. It's not like good choices are cheaper. It just means everything has a high price now. Weight loss and healthy diet changes are also 2 of the hardest goals anyone can seek to achieve, that they tried to tell us they increased the prices to achieve them tells me they're not thinking **at all** or they think the public are fools.
Posted 6 June 2023, 5:14 p.m. Suggest removal
ohdrap4 says...
They are just obeying the WHO:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti…
Posted 6 June 2023, 5:49 p.m. Suggest removal
logician242 says...
Sugar is bad in excess. This is well known and it would behoove Bahamians to consume far less than they do. The snag is that most of sugar consumption comes from processed food that is labelled as healthy. So I am not necessarily convinced that taxing sugary drinks alone is going to have a major impact.
Rather consider how most Bahamians obtain their sugar drinks.
I recently spent a week in Eleuthera. I did not see any obese persons there. I also did not see any fast food outlets. They are (as usual) barking up the wrong tree; got to find a scapegoat.
Having said that they will have a riot in Nassau if they caused significant price increases at the fast food outlets, which, other than possibly Bamboo Shack, are an entirely USA franchises.
Posted 7 June 2023, 6:27 a.m. Suggest removal
ohdrap4 says...
Also what is sold at the food store.
Canned soups have a lot of sugar, cereals, yogurt, donuts and cinnamon rolls, Mac and cheese, ramen noodles, Kool aid and Tampico.
So they cannot touch that.
Apparently this worked in Mexico.
Not to worry, they will come after these soon.
Posted 7 June 2023, 10:49 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
"*Apparently this worked in Mexico*"
If you mean the sugar tax worked in changing purchasing habits in Mexico, what wed have to ask to get the full picture, what did people start purchasing as alternatives and what was the comparative price. Because everything here expensive now, even fast food. A fast food snack now costs about as much as a lunch meal. They havent thought this through. They might as well say *we want to raise the tax on food* and leave it there
Posted 7 June 2023, noon Suggest removal
DWW says...
Can we tax marijuana yet? Or is it too soon? asking for a friend.
Posted 7 June 2023, 3:54 p.m. Suggest removal
The_Oracle says...
Would be better off banning Vegetable oils, which are in fact highly processed and unstable seed oils high in omega 6. Omega 3 is healthy, 6 is not.
Far worse than sugar. However far more troubling is a Government inserting more and more "control" over the daily lives and choices people make.
Not liking this New direction for the Bahamian people.
Posted 8 June 2023, 4:26 p.m. Suggest removal
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