PRIME Minister Davis is void of all common sense, he's the PM, he and his administration can't tell Bahamians to turn to prayer to stop the senseless carnage, since because of his and former governments have all paved the road to where the Bahamas is today,

Let's assume that after this clarion call for prayer 70% of Bahamians actually do say a prayer over the next few days, let us see if the murders stop. If they don't stop... what does that tell us???

When these leaders quote scripture they quite often use it of of context. Does prayer work? Yes? The question is for "who"? Its quite clear:

"**If MY people**, which are called by MY name, shall humble themselves, and **pray**, and seek my face, **and turn from their wicked ways; THEN** will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and **will heal their land**.*

Prayer is a tool for Gods people who are willing to stop giving overpriced contracts to their buddies

The solution being proposed by government to tackle the county's extremely high murder rate is that people should pray? Ummm, well, OK. Perhaps we need 87 more Assistant Police Commissioners as that might work just as well as these prayers.

This is his grand solution -- to pray????? Praying does NOTHING to stop the actual issue at hand. Hell... I pray everyday that I wished I still had hair on top of my head. Nope, nothing in 30+ years of praying. Still bald. What a freakin' FOOL our "leader" is. What a joke!!!

Praying is not a plan. Clearly our PM has no clue or plan or will to tackle this scourge of crime. Murders at a pace of one per day and all he talks about is praying? Tell us in concrete steps what your administration will do to deal with this problem.

Hey. I know how to pray. Can I be Prime Minister now?

When God did not answer to a premiership? --- **Praying is not a plan** so.said Comrade DonAnthony. ---Whilst prayer is big thing, --- A   house riddled with bullets ---- Killing a 16-year-old girl as bullets flew through her family's home---- Demands much more than just a premiership's shout-out to pray.---- Yes?

Praying may not be a plan but in biblical days prayers were said before an army went to battle or before an important event was about to take place. And, of course, those kings who were non believers also consulted their spiritual advisers and sometimes executed them if they did not receive the news they wanted to hear.

The government and the police would have to be clairvoyant in order to know when and where a crime will occur . The heart and mind of people is hard to understand. Only God knows the heart

And they would have to be strategists to return the country to law and order.

As they dont seem to be able to do that, which is achievable, they are clearly neither clairvoyant or strategic. Stop one person from running a red light, ...please

For prayer to be effective, the other requisites must be met; people ( Gods people) must humble themselves and pray, then turn away from their WICKED ways!! So if you still doing wicked things, the prayers are in vain.
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BUT the threat The PM made to the bag boys; ‘we’re coming to get you!’ This doesn’t phase them. The bad boys ain’t scared of jail and they are not afraid to die. In fact the Commissioner or the Minister of National Security revealed that at least 40 percent of murder victims are out on bail for serious crimes, mostly murder or attempted murder.
So how do one punish someone who is not afraid of jail or not afraid to die? Some argue that capital punishment is not a deterrent, for the same reason. But the Bible says ‘thieves and murderers have come to kill and to destroy and should be taken out of society.

@ComradeJohn, pray tell , --- Exactly, how use think to spell out the “Wicked Ways” of The Colony's Churches'?

First off the PM’s call for prayer was to the nation and not to the church. And secondly, I am not God so it is not my duty to judge the church, so you do that by yourself. But remember God says judgment will begin at the pulpit but until such time… and don’t forget the many, many preachers and pastors who have fallen to shame and scandal and even crime especially in the past few years.

Best you educate up John

It's 2023 not 1823

And your point

I dont like to use scripture too much to a non christian audience, I personally think its the wrongly placed. Im particularly put off by the abundance of preachers looking for national relevance through talk show appearances.

**But**, since the PM brought up prayer as a solution, I also responded with *thats not how it works*, my message was not to the "secular", but to the religious and semi religious ones who say "*just pray*". God gave guidelines for how to prayer, for not praying foolish prayers and the prerequisites needed for him to answer... this message only for the Christians "*turn from your wicked ways*" thats the prerequisite.

How to stop a gang? There is only one way. Kill them ALL!!!
Gangs either choose to disassociate themselves or they die. How many gangs have ceased to exist in The Bahamas?

Gangs are tge product if the US. From time immemorial, ( white) motorcycle gangs travelled across the country, raping and robbing and abusing drugs and alcohol and beating or killing members of opposition gangs. And then being fugitive ls of the law. Other gangs originated in prisons where minority inmates had to form themselves into gangs to protect themselves from the majority inmates. And during the Clinton administration when prison’s became a business in the US and the Clintons sent thousands of Black and Hispanic men to jail for long periods of time for minor crimes. Prisons became a business and as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton did her own thing, using inmates for experiments. Predator drugs development being among them. And, of course Bahamians were caught up in the US prison system and when they were released and deported, they brought the American gang culture here, to tThe BaHAMAS with them. Fast forward now today.

That will never work. Gangs are given life by disaffected people. Thats all we gat. Solution make no one disaffected.

Prayer is wonderful, but as Scripture says "faith without works is dead". God gave us (some of us at least) a functional brain to diagnose problems and develop solutions.

**There are 'NO EXCUSES' to be seen as The Colony of Killers'.** --- Whilst private and popoulaces' sector thieving is too complicated a mix of circumstances. ---- **Murders' turnaround to zero killings' is a reach.** --- Over a 10-year period. --- **Returning The Colony** to one of the world's **supreme safest places to live and vacation.** --- Yes?

Maybe this government of The Bahamas needs to take a visit to Britain/ England and find out how they were successful in stemming the murders in London, where dozens of young men were being knifed to death. Guns are not readily available in England as they are in the US or in this country so knives were the weapons of choice. Did these killings eventually wean themselves out, or was some effective policing and justice system put in place?

Unfortunately the knife crime in the UK is back with a vengeance. Idris Elba just had a plea about banning these 'zombie knives'. It's a crazy, violent time almost everywhere.

That’s sad to hear, but there were warnings/predictions that crime and especially violent crime would increase after Covid. There are reports that in the US, they are having to re-open some of the prisons that they were able to close because of low occupancy before the pandemic.

The government won't but the media can become involved to achieve zero murders' --- By separately reporting on the ---- Number murdered **on and about The Colony's capital Out Island of Nassau.** --- Yes?

According to police reports, the mother of the 16 year old girl, who was shot dead, was harboring the suspect of the country’s second murder of the year in the home where the girl was shot. Police know this because they chased the suspect in the area just the day before. So police are assuming that whoever shot the 16 y/o mistook her for the suspect who committed the second murder of 2024. Cause and effects.

So maybe we can ask Kenya's President William Ruto to bring his gang busting task force here instead of Haiti?

Yikes!

BRAVE DAVIS and others who are involved in the fight against crime and especially violent crime and murder MUST, must remember that crime is only a symptom of something else gone wrong in the society. And you can continue fighting the symptom until the cows come home and the situation will NOT get better. Going after the bad boys after they have already become bad boys or having to take someone off the streets and lock them up after they have committed a violent crime or murder is not fixing a broken system. It is simply dealing with someone who has fallen through the cracks. .
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So to fix the problem of crime one must dig deeper. Violent crime and murder had been a costly and vexing problem in this country for four solid decades and more. And the persons who are committing the crime today are not the ones who were committing the crimes in the 1980’s and the 1990s Many of them have died or otherwise moved off the scene. So the question is why is this country continuing to breed criminals. They start off at 26, 17, 18 years old and by the time they are in their mid 30’s, many of them are dead. Shirt life span, short criminal career but one that seeks to destroy the very foundation of this country. And you can list these young men as ‘aliens’ to The BaHAMAS, because before many of them can get to know this country or even know themselves, they will be dead. Is the country failing them?

Why we must pray: ‘ Ephesians 6:12

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12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against mprincipalities, against powers, against nthe rulers of 3the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.’ ESV For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.‘

That "we" is an instruction to the church, a real church, not a marketing junket. Its not to a nation. It would be great if everyone in the bahamas subscribed to the christian faith and upheld the bibles moral standard... but they dont. The pastors need to get off the talk shows and go talk to their membership. We keep up this farce of a christian nation, I dont know who we think we fooling, certainly not God, not when we was partying with all kinds of Colombians right after writing the constitution

What can any one do when people are hiding criminals . What can the mother say now the shooter knew the man was in the house . Unfortunately the young girl life was lost so blame the police blame the government. It is the criminal mind at work

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This sounds eerily like the Commissioners statement maybe 2 years ago(?) May have been the former commissioner.. Paraphrasing, "*Bahamians dont need to be afraid, only those known to police are being targeted*"... and then the collateral damage started.

What if the criminal hides in a movie theatre where his girlfriend works?

Harbouring criminals is the country's biggest problem.

There are reasons for that, whether familial, financial or strategic. This case is just another sad example of collateral damage in this sick society, where the criminals seem to be able to always find willing partners in crime ...... whether they are politicians, police, pastors or sex partners.

Until this harbouring mindset changes, there will be NO decrease in 242 crime.

‘ Rattled, gang members appear to be in survival mode. Deprived of territory and revenue, regrouping is not an immediate option. They have also suffered from an apparent collapse in communication between cells following the onset of the state of emergency. Gang members that have stayed out of jail have largely been left on their own, according to gang sources interviewed by InSight Crime. ’
Drastic times calls for drastic measures. So has the time now come for the government to follow the example of El Salvador, where police rounded up thousands of men suspected of gang membership or gang activity and jailed them? Of course there will have to be a housing facility separate from Fox Hill Prison and once a y male is arrested and put into this ‘camp’ lawyers will not be allowed to intervene. The men then go through rigorous physical and mental exercises and are only isolated from the program when it is determined that they are not gang members, not involved in gang activity or show signs of reform. Those who are found to be steeped in gang activity will eventually have criminal charges brought against them and serve life imprisonment. The positive effects of this program are clear is the crime and murder in El Salvador has declined exponentially. And even though estimates are that some 21,000 gang members are still free, they are on the run, keeping a low profile and avoiding crime to avoid being captured. Remember this all started when the US released thousands of inmates , many suspected of being members of the deadly MS-13 gang, loaded them onto jets and returned them to their home countries in Central and South America and in The Caribbean. They caused murder and mayhem in these countries and El Salvador had taken the most drastic and effective measures thus far to stamp out gangs and eliminate violence in that country. Crime been serious in this country long time. Time for government to get serious and stop the talk, talk, talk!

Still a lot left to be done: ‘ The government does not appear to have a comprehensive plan for addressing these root causes of gangs. This places a disproportionate burden on community, and civil-society and religious organizations to fill these social and economic needs, something they have not been able to do in the past.“The government chopped down the tree, but left the roots,” said Estuado Escobar, a Salvadoran lawyer and outspoken critic of the state of emergency.’