US hits out at China after hospital deal

By RASHAD ROLLE

Tribune News Editor

rrolle@tribunemedia.net

THE Davis administration sidelined a British offer to fund a new hospital and signed a $195m deal with China last week, drawing US warnings about the risks of Chinese investment.

The UK High Commission told The Tribune that its proposal, made earlier this year through UK Export Finance, was intended to match or beat China’s terms on project cost, construction timeline, and repayment conditions.

“As well as the terms being competitive to that of the original Chinese offer, British companies had recent experience of building in the region successfully, and these hospitals were built to be fully compatible with European and American-provided medical equipment and European and American-trained doctors,” the High Commission said.

“The High Commission believed the offer was received warmly and, because of repeated delays and change in terms on the Chinese side, they were asked by the Prime Minister to make the offer directly to the Minister of Health. They did so, and the offer was followed up in a letter to the government of The Bahamas shortly afterwards.”

The Tribune understands the Davis administration ultimately opted not to pursue the UK’s offer.

In a statement over the weekend, the United States reiterated its long-standing concern over China’s expanding role in the region.

“Chinese investments in the Caribbean typically benefit elites, not the people, leaving countries with shoddy or incomplete projects and unsustainable debt to China, jeopardising their development and sovereignty,” said US chargé d’affaires Kimberly Furnish. “The United States Embassy will continue to work with the Government of The Bahamas so they can make informed decisions about interactions with China.”

The newly signed agreement includes a 20-year loan from the Chinese Export-Import Bank, covering 73 percent of the project’s cost — approximately $195m — at a two percent interest rate, with a five-year grace period. The remaining $72m is expected to be raised through local or international financing, or a mix of both.

Health and Wellness Minister Dr Michael Darville announced at Friday’s signing ceremony that the hospital’s total cost had been reduced from $290m to $267m following a technical review by Chinese engineers. The savings, he said, stemmed from a recommendation to switch from fire-resistant steel to reinforced concrete.

The hospital, to be built on 50 acres in the Perpall Tract, is expected to take 31 to 36 months to complete. The 200-bed facility will primarily serve women and children, featuring paediatric wards, emergency and intensive care units, surgical theatres, diagnostic labs, and mass casualty infrastructure.

Once operational, maternal and adolescent services currently housed at Princess Margaret Hospital (PMH) will move to the new site. The vacated space at PMH will then be repurposed for expanded adult care, including dialysis and other speciality services.

Labour terms are still being negotiated. The government is aiming for a 50/50 split between Chinese and Bahamian workers, though officials hope to increase the local share.

Dr Darville also confirmed that environmental approvals have already been secured. Site preparation tenders are being finalised, and land clearing is expected to begin within weeks.

Prime Minister Philip “Brave” Davis called the agreement a key step in modernising the country’s strained healthcare infrastructure.

“For far too long, Bahamians have suffered under a broken health system marked by long lines, excessive wait times, and outdated facilities,” he said. “We cannot accept that as the standard. We will not accept that.”

Chinese Ambassador Yan Jiarong hailed the agreement as another milestone in the growing relationship between China and The Bahamas, saying Beijing remains committed to supporting national development efforts.

Comments

jackbnimble says...

Why is it that everytime the PLP is in power, China is always on the radar and making deals? What is their fascination with China? Or has the Chinese figured out how to win them over?
When are we going to stop selling our sovereignty for a meal?
The US has already taken the fee up on visas, no doubt to stop some of us from even applying. At this rate we'll soon be banned completely.

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:05 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Cowards like you will always bow and scrape, eager to swallow whatever the Americans dish out—no matter how bitter or degrading—because deep down, you've accepted their view: that we're nothing more than “shithole people from shithole countries.” But let’s be clear—these genocidal, racist Americans don’t have friends; they have pawns and dependents. Friends don’t piss on you and then threaten you when the stench becomes unbearable. They respect your sovereignty, your dignity, and your right to choose what's best for your people. Until then, stop dressing up subservience as diplomacy.

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:18 a.m. Suggest removal

bahamianson says...

Island warrior, I get your passion, but why take British titles and turn your back on them? That’s what I do not get . We have many Sir this and that , here. We have kc’s and Qc’s . We love these titles , yet we shun them. I don’t get it.

Posted 14 July 2025, 2:19 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

We also take North American tourists while spitting in the eyes of Uncle Sam. Not good!!

Posted 14 July 2025, 3:16 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Let’s not forget—Bahamians helped build your America, especially South Florida. From agriculture to construction to hospitality, generations of Bahamians laid the foundations of communities that now thrive on our labour and culture. Yet despite this, out of nearly every nation on Earth, the only passport the United States refuses to respect is ours—our Blue Book. Not only do Bahamians require a visa to visit the U.S., but now we’re also forced to pay $500 just to apply for a visa waiver. That’s what "friendship" looks like?

And let’s not pretend the insults stop there. We’ve heard your so-called “leaders,” like the Governor of Florida, openly threaten to bomb The Bahamas over immigration—a statement so vile and cowardly that it should have been condemned by every decent official in that genocidal racist country. But no, we only got silence. That’s the real tone of your diplomacy.

So before you accuse me of “spitting in the eyes of Uncle Sam,” ask yourself: What kind of friend piss on and kicks you, then expects you to kneel and say thank you? Real friendship is built on mutual respect—not fear, not bullying, and certainly not extortion.

Stop being a coward, stop bullying ... protect your sovereignty.

Posted 14 July 2025, 6:51 p.m. Suggest removal

Dawes says...

Umm we can travel to the US on Police certificates. Can you show me the long list of countries that can do that.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:45 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

While The Bahamas continues to operate within the framework of a colonial-era political system, the more pressing question is this: when, since independence, has the United Kingdom brought forward any major investment of lasting economic benefit to the Bahamian people? The uncomfortable truth is that British commercial engagement with The Bahamas has been virtually non-existent for decades. Last year, we welcomed fewer than 1,500 UK tourists—despite our so-called "historic ties." That figure alone speaks volumes.

The UK is 4,000 miles away. The emotional and economic distance is even greater. So before anyone questions why we are partnering with China instead of Britain, perhaps the real question should be: Where has Britain been all this time? And what have they done—beyond symbolic honours and polite press statements—to help build schools, roads, hospitals, or trade platforms for the Bahamian people?

This isn’t about who we like—it’s about who shows up. And for too long, the UK simply hasn’t.

Posted 14 July 2025, 6 p.m. Suggest removal

Dawes says...

You conveniently forget the UK warships that come in behind hurricanes and help immediately Like after Dorain, or after Irma, or after Andrew and many more times. But they don't show up per you.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:47 a.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

I salute you Island Warrior .... you speak the truth unbowed. This America has absolutely no respect for the Bahamas or people of color anywhere. To suggest otherwise is the lies of a step n fetchit uncle.

Posted 14 July 2025, 2:33 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

... anytime clarity, and not cowardice, is needed, I am here.

Thank you.

Posted 14 July 2025, 5:52 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

So you must think the CCP out of the goodness of its heart is providing a helping hand to debt ridden nations around the world. And clearly you must also think the CCP is the 'lesser evil' when compared to the U.S. Government.

But in thinking as you do, you choose to ignore the many ongoing horrific atrocities being committed by the CCP against certain ethnic groups in African countries and among its own people in Communist China. Even Alligator Alcatraz is palatial in comparison to the detention centres and prisons where many illegal immigrants and criminals arrested in Communist China are likely to end up.

Just ask yourself why is the CCP so willing to help the Bahamas but not Haiti. The answer of course is because of our close proximity to the U.S. For the last five decades the CCP has been focused on taking control of strategic zones around the world, mainly seaways, ports and mines.

You seem to be one of those Bahamians brainwashed by the Confucius Institute, You are happily willing to reap the tourism benefits associated with our close proximity to the U.S. while at the same time spitting in the eyes of Uncle Sam by accommodating the insidiously evil interests of the CCP that are diametrically opposed the interests of the people of North America. Suggest you carefully re-think who truly has been and is more likely to continue buttering our small nation's bread for many decades to come.

Posted 14 July 2025, 3:14 p.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

Well said. Ask him how many tourists do we get from China each year

Posted 14 July 2025, 3:46 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Or better yet, ask yourself this: how many times has The Bahamas been threatened with economic punishment—especially in tourism—simply because, as a sovereign people, we do not conform to the West’s ever-expanding LGBT+ agenda? How many times have we been told to change our values or face consequences? I’ve never once heard such threats from our Chinese partners. Not once. Unlike others, they don’t try to bribe us with one hand and bully us with the other. That distinction matters.

Posted 14 July 2025, 5:42 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

LOL. Next you will be bringing the BLM (Black Lives Matter) Movement into the discussion. Save your breath. Most of us already know what the ChiComs think of gays and blacks, and, frankly, anyone but their own communist kind.

Posted 15 July 2025, 8:34 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Ah yes—when all else fails, throw out a lazy, racist jab and hope it sticks. “ChiComs,” really? That outdated Cold War slur says more about your ignorance than it does about China. And while you're busy preaching about what the Chinese allegedly think of gays, Blacks, or anyone who isn't them, maybe take a hard look in your own backyard.

The truth is, no Chinese official ever enslaved our people, drew up Jim Crow laws, ran apartheid colonies in the Caribbean, or set immigration quotas to keep Black Bahamians out of Florida. No Chinese ambassador ever called us “shithole countries,” or threatened to bomb us over immigration. That would be your so-called "democratic allies."

Bahamians don't need lectures from racists dressed up as freedom fighters. We know how to weigh relationships based on results, not recycled bigotry. China built roads, ports, airports, and hospitals in this region. They didn’t ask us to change our religion, parade their ideology in our schools, or tie their aid to moral blackmail.

We are not pawns in your geopolitical tantrum. We will decide who we work with—not based on your approval, but on the interest of the Bahamian people. And if that offends you, maybe you're the one who needs to save your breath.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:30 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

What you’ve written isn’t analysis—it’s a regurgitation of Western propaganda laced with Cold War paranoia and colonial arrogance. You ask if I believe the Chinese are helping The Bahamas out of the goodness of their heart. Let me ask you this: do you believe the Americans ever did? Was it out of compassion that they slapped visa restrictions on Bahamians, blocked access to international funding unless we aligned with their social values, or threatened our sovereignty every time we dared to make a decision outside their shadow?

You speak of “atrocities” committed by the CCP while conveniently ignoring America's unbroken legacy of war, regime change, drone assassinations, racial segregation, mass incarceration, and economic strangulation of entire nations—from Cuba to Iraq. Guantanamo Bay is not a metaphor—it’s an American-run torture camp operating to this very day. So please, spare us the moral lectures.

You question why China supports The Bahamas and not Haiti, but fail to consider the real problem: it’s not China that destroyed Haiti’s infrastructure, imposed IMF austerity, or kidnapped its elected leaders. That was your beloved West. If the Chinese were “colonizing” the world through ports, then what do you call the 800+ U.S. military bases in over 70 countries?

And as for your jab about the Confucius Institute: education, language, and cultural exchange threaten only those who fear their narratives being exposed. I’ll take a Mandarin class over being brainwashed by Fox News, CNN, and neocon think tanks any day of the week.

Here’s the bottom line: Bahamians are not children to be warned off with ghost stories. We are a sovereign people who will decide—on our terms—who we work with. And if that cooperation comes with infrastructure, hospitals, roads, and ports without the lectures, threats, or “values tests,” then yes, we’ll take it. We’ll trade paternalism for partnership. And we will not apologize for choosing what benefits our nation, not what comforts your outdated geopolitical insecurities.

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Posted 14 July 2025, 5:49 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Butter our bread? No. We’ll bake our own. And we don’t need permission from Uncle Sam or Chairman Xi to do it.

Posted 14 July 2025, 5:50 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

You ChiComs are too easily "Exposed", but "U" are "2" brainwashed to ever "C" it. You lend new meaning to "ExposedU2C".

Posted 15 July 2025, 8:39 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

The truth is—you are just a coward, eager to lash out at the weak while staying silent when it’s the powerful doing the damage. Quick to demonize the Haitian trying to feed his family or the Chinese partner offering a deal we negotiated ourselves, but mute when cruise giants rob us blind, foreign-owned dive companies operate tax-free, and international banks funnel profits out while we foot the bill.

It’s easy to shout when the target is poor or foreign. But when it’s the rich, the connected, or the familiar 'white face' doing the exploiting, suddenly everyone forgets how to speak. That’s not patriotism. That’s selective outrage—and it's destroying this country more than any outsider ever could.

Coward, racist and blind!

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:51 a.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

One needs to pull one's head out of the trump American backside. The US has committed atrocities for centuries ... did China drop nuclear bombs on anyone. Ask Black and Brown people in America what they think of your trump friends.

Posted 14 July 2025, 6:23 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Tribal leaders along the West coast of Africa also committed atrocities when they sold our ancestors to the Spanish, French and British to be slaves in the Caribbean and then eventually in the U.S.. But believe me when I say a ChiCom slave master would be infinitely worse than any other one could possibly ever be.

The U.S. is an open society and has had a black president (Obama) for two presidential terms. You will never see a **black** Chinese politician become the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and chairman of the Central Military Commission (CMC), and thus become the self-proclaimed paramount leader of China as the most sinister and evil Xi Jinping is today. The CCP politburo has many members, but not one who is black. Can't help but wonder why.

Suggest you wake up to the real world we live in and shed the one that has been planted in your head by the ChiCom propagandists who have pulled the wool over the eyes of many of our more greedy and easily bribable senior politicians.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:07 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Before Washington trots out another tired “debt-trap” sermon, it should recall that a first-class hospital in Nassau will treat not only Bahamians but the millions of American tourists who flood our shores every year. If the United States cannot match the financing, speed, or scope of China’s offer, its diplomats would do better to respect our sovereign right to choose the best deal rather than scold us with thinly veiled threats. Shared interests—not paternalistic lectures—should guide neighbours; until America can put a competitive package on the table, it might refrain from playing the insecure overlord.

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:11 a.m. Suggest removal

realfreethinker says...

I guest you did not read the portion about how the British offered us a better deal.

Posted 14 July 2025, 3:48 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

... no, I could not find where there was mention of "a better deal" ... what I read is ...' The UK High Commission told The Tribune that its proposal, made earlier this year through UK Export Finance, was intended to match or beat China’s terms on project cost, construction timeline, and repayment conditions.

“As well as the terms being competitive to that of the ***original Chinese offer***, British companies had recent experience of building in the region successfully, and these hospitals were built to be fully compatible with European and American-provided medical equipment and European and American-trained doctors,” the High Commission said.'

Maybe you have a more detailed version of the article, one that is different from what we are all reading here ...?

Please share your version that say "better deal"

Posted 14 July 2025, 10:03 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

And by "better deal" you of course mean one that puts more financial rewards in the personal coffers of certain corrupt and greedy senior PLP politicians.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:18 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

If you can—go ahead and show me exactly where in the article a “better deal” was offered. Otherwise, spare us the racist venom and blind allegiance. National decisions should be based on facts and outcomes, not prejudice and misplaced loyalty to powers that have never respected us.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:56 a.m. Suggest removal

BMW says...

Only one reason they always go with the Chinese, they are crooked too! The British on the other hand would expect transparency and offer no under table deals.

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:12 a.m. Suggest removal

truetruebahamian says...

Correct.

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:39 a.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

Who are you kidding ... the British are not as pure as you say and the Americans are another level of corruption all together. The China financing is excellent and I am no fan of the PLP. I'd like financing as equitable.

Posted 14 July 2025, 2:36 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Yup, you're a certified ChiCom troll on this website. LOL

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:20 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

And there it is—the final refuge of the intellectually bankrupt: name-calling. When facts fail you, and logic escapes you, you lash out with lazy slurs like “ChiCom troll” as if that somehow erases the truth I’ve laid bare. You can mock all you want, but mocking doesn’t build hospitals, it doesn’t construct roads, and it doesn’t solve the very real issues Bahamians face every day.

Unlike you, I don’t take orders from anyone—East or West. I read contracts, compare outcomes, follow the money, and ask who actually benefits. If that threatens your fragile worldview, then perhaps you should step away from the keyboard and do some reading instead.

Your shallow insults don’t wound me—they expose you. You came here with slogans; I came with substance. And the louder you laugh, the clearer it becomes that you have nothing of value to say. So unless you’re ready to talk policy, infrastructure, economics, or sovereignty, consider this your final lesson: Slogans don’t feed nations. Strategy does.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:59 a.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

quava, I agree.

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:50 p.m. Suggest removal

rosiepi says...

Well given all the skullduggery and payoffs to the Christie PMO and all his cronies, the Chinese have good reason to make hay while Davis&Co are still in a position to pick the pockets of Bahamians!

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:14 a.m. Suggest removal

bogart says...

Good observation R.

ADDIONALLY, to all the CONSTRUCTION of the 200 bed Hospital on 50 acres of land will be the big question of ----- STAFFING ----- which will be Doctors, RNs, Rms, TCNs, Administration, Records, Staff, Theatre Surgical crews, Specialists, Lab workers, Pharmacists, Supplies, Ambulances and crew, maintenance equipment premises, laundry, housekeeping, food preparation etcetcetcetc---- working on 24 hr shifts rotations --- probably over 500 staffing.

So where is the STAFFING of the 200 Bed hospital on 50 acres detailed coming from which is a key component to begin with ????? Is the ----- medical EQUIPMENT -----, supplies, -------SUPPLIERS -----computers, backups, spares replacements etcetc part of the deal? Will there be additional ambulances, vehicles ????

Posted 15 July 2025, 11:47 a.m. Suggest removal

birdiestrachan says...

American owes China. They are in debt to China

Posted 14 July 2025, 11:43 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

????

Even if that were the case (which it isn't), why would you want our small nation to be in the same predicament?

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:23 a.m. Suggest removal

ted4bz says...

US says, China investment benefits elites. Every accusation, is a confession. The world made US custodian to everything, and now the custodian is holding the world hostage to everything. So I wonder where China got that from. US have a problem with every nation on this planet. Every nation on this planet is sick and tired of US griping over everything.

Posted 14 July 2025, 1:29 p.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

I find the Chinese far more moral than these trump lead Americans. trump is a felon and it even goes lower. trump has no respect for the Black/Brown man or woman. We should have no respect for trump and/or his lackies,

Posted 14 July 2025, 2:39 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

There's now a vaccine for TDS. lol

Posted 14 July 2025, 4:08 p.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

I have heard many times that trump has sexually transmitted diseases, maybe you should take a vaccine as you seem to cling to his ......

Posted 14 July 2025, 6:29 p.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

I agree.
How, after watching the shitstorm in the US government could any sentient being support trump.
He is truly disgusting.
Anyone supporting him needs a psychological evaluation

Posted 15 July 2025, 8:30 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Unfortunately the vaccine for your most severe case of TDS may still be under development. Trump was elected president by an overwhelming majority of U.S. voters. Surely you respect the will of all those U.S. voters who voted for him, or does your great disdain for Trump extend to them too? While I may be no fan of Trump's demeanor and personality, I do respect many things he stands for. Just think what the Bahamas would be like today if we had long ago clamped down on illegal immigration in a serious and sustained way.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:38 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Overwhelming majority? That’s either wilful ignorance or a deliberate lie. Let’s educate you.

Donald Trump lost the popular vote in both 2016 and 2020. In 2016, he was elected through the Electoral College, not by a majority of voters. In fact, Hillary Clinton received nearly 3 million more votes than Trump. That’s not a “landslide”—that’s a constitutional technicality. And in 2020, he lost both the popular and Electoral College vote—decisively.

But here’s the bigger issue: the U.S. has one of the lowest voter turnout rates in the developed world. In 2016, only about 55% of eligible voters participated. In 2020, even with record turnout, roughly one-third of the adult population still didn’t vote. So no, Trump was not elected by “an overwhelming majority.” He was elected by a fraction of Americans in a system designed to skew results in favour of specific states—not the majority.

Now, as for your lazy immigration comparison—Trump's bluster on immigration has cost lives, traumatized children, and fueled racial division. The Bahamas doesn’t need to mimic xenophobic hysteria to protect its borders. What we need is clear policy, dignity in enforcement, and leadership rooted in nation-building, not scapegoating.

So before you lecture anyone on “respecting the will of voters,” maybe understand how voting actually works—and don’t mistake electoral mechanics for mass approval. Facts matter. Try using them.

So stop while you’re ahead—because you’re embarrassing yourself. You’re looking dumb and sounding even worse. This isn’t a football match. It’s policy, history, and truth—and you're clearly out of your depth.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:07 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Your ChiCom AI programmers have obviously not "taught" (trained) you as a bot to know that rapid fire postings that display little reasoning ability and scatter brain reactions to certain key words is a dead giveaway of a devious disinformation and misinformation bot. And you, Island Warrior Bot, fit the bill perfectly. Don't worry though, you are sure to get the upgraded AI training you need from your ChiCom masters. LOL

Posted 15 July 2025, 11:45 a.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

You have been exposed as a self hating maga bot ... you are cheerleading for a sexual pervert trump

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:16 p.m. Suggest removal

bahamianson says...

Wow, something does not sound right . This seems very fishy . Why would we accept British titles from our closest, apparent ally , then refuse to accept a loan from them? I don’t get it? I just don’t get it? The leaders of The Bahamas know why they are dealing with China and not England. We , the people whom do not enjoy the expensive travels , dinners and parties will stay out of their business. However, if there is any retaliation, please retaliate at the right leaders and not the innocent people.

Posted 14 July 2025, 2:11 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Puppet PM Davis may as well have the three letters "CCP" tattooed on his forehead. No doubt he is one of the benefitting "elites" the U.S. Embassy speaks of, and may even have a foreign bank account balance generously funded by the CCP to prove his loyalty to the Communist politburo rises above all else.

Posted 14 July 2025, 3:24 p.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

Is maga tattooed to your forehead or better yet arse

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:17 p.m. Suggest removal

Baha10 says...

We should avoid the urge to play geopolitics with the Big Boys. Just ask Cuba how that worked out … and they were far bigger and wealthy than we are. Acknowledging the US will vigorously defend their backyard, it would seem the English Offer presented a good “way out” for all concerned, including even the Chinese. Instead, we seem to have voluntarily put our “little” Country in the middle between two competing Giants. Not very clever 🤷🏻‍♂️

Posted 14 July 2025, 5:24 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Perhaps it is simply that those of us who proudly claim the name “Bahamian” refuse to fit the caricature of cowardice some would paint. We stand firmly with our government as it defends our sovereignty, unwilling to be brow‑beaten by a United States whose history of racist, genocidal violence abroad reminds us that a single pretext could bring bombs raining down on Nassau in the name of Florida’s “security.” Or perhaps we are merely exercising patient resolve, still awaiting the long‑overdue reparations' cheque from Britain for the centuries of slavery our ancestors endured beneath the Union Jack

Posted 14 July 2025, 10:16 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Baha10 is right. History is replete with small nations that literally have been wrecked by their foolish governments attempting to play one Gorilla country off against another. Staying under the radar and not doing things that antagonise the Gorillas, while at the same time getting on with our own important interests, is always the best policy.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:52 a.m. Suggest removal

Dawes says...

How is getting a loan from 1 country over another proudly defending our Sovereignty. In both cases we are going to be expected to give something away.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:51 a.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

Thanks for bringing us back to the main question>

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:51 p.m. Suggest removal

Empiricist says...

It is very unfortunate that this matter has come to this with name calling and innuendos. Let’s look at the empirical facts, evidence and outcomes of these two countries when it comes to major development projects.
First let us take a look at the outcomes of construction projects undertaken by the Chinese companies in the Bahamas. What is their record of completing these projects on time and within cost? What is their record of completing these projects within the framework of quality and reliability? What is their track record on similar construction projects in CARICOM countries? What is their performance record on similar construction projects around the world? Was there due diligence undertaken with respect to these empirical facts by the relevant authorities before they made their decision to fall for this Chinese trick called the “Belt and Road Initiative”? Clearly not, because if they did they would have seen that low bid, nice financing terms of the Chinese is combination of the old Bait and Switch strategy and the new pig in the poke preferential financing terms all leading to the Government of the Bahamas, PLP or FNM, being trapped and indebted to the Chinese.
Mark my words, this project and the so called competitive terms offered by the Chinese will backfire and trap the Bahamian Government and obligate them to give up a piece of our territorial sovereignty. Look at how the Chinese has used this strategic trap around the world. Madagascar, Zambia, and Malaysia are just a few countries that have been trapped into giving up their territorial sovereignty to the Chinese when they could not repay loans for development projects financed and built by the Chinese.
So which one of our islands will the Chinese demand in repayment of the loan, the cost of which will sky rocket and cannot be repaid for a hospital which will not be completed on time and on budget and with due respect to construction quality? And what is the ultimate goal of the Chinese in demanding sovereignty over one of our islands? They will build a military base to get ready for the likelihood of a military contest and conflict with big, bad disrespectful America.

Posted 14 July 2025, 8:55 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

Fact check:

Debt‑trap diplomacy” claims – what the data show:-

*** A peer‑reviewed survey of 1,100 Chinese loans finds no instance of Beijing seizing a sovereign asset for non‑payment; when borrowers run into trouble, the norm is to reschedule or refinance.*** The Atlantic

- Zambia. Viral reports that China would grab Lusaka’s Kenneth Kaunda International Airport were formally denied by the Zambian cabinet in 2018; no transfer has occurred. - Lusaka Times

- Madagascar. Chinese debt is ≈ 3‑4 % of Madagascar’s external liabilities, well below distress thresholds, and no ports, mines or islands have changed hands. - china observers

- Malaysia. The East Coast Rail Link was renegotiated in 2019, cutting the cost by one‑third; Malaysia kept full ownership and operational control. - Radio Free Asia

- Sri Lanka’s Hambantota lease—often cited as Exhibit A—was a 99‑year commercial concession, not an asset seizure triggered by default, and Colombo used the proceeds to bolster its foreign‑exchange reserves. Independent scholarship notes the arrangement was initiated by Sri Lanka, not demanded by Beijing. - Harvard Business School

*****

It is disappointing—but not surprising—to witness yet another recycled diatribe parroting Western propaganda about Chinese development, cloaked in faux patriotism and masquerading as economic wisdom. The author speaks of “empirical facts,” yet offers none. Instead, they rely on exaggerated hypotheticals, lazy generalizations, and fear-inducing narratives that have been debunked by international development scholars, financial watchdogs, and governments alike.

This constant reference to the so-called “debt trap” is a narrative manufactured in think tanks funded by Western geopolitical interests. It is not grounded in data, legal precedent, or development economics. In fact, China’s debt renegotiation pattern has been more flexible than the IMF and Paris Club, who impose austerity measures and political conditions on desperate nations in need.

So the real question is this: who is the bigger threat to our sovereignty? China, who builds roads, bridges, hotels, and ports under state-backed loans? Or the United States, who has armed drones in the sky, military bases in 80 countries, and a documented history of toppling governments from Panama to Grenada to Iraq?

And while we’re at it—when was the last time the British paid a penny in reparations for 200 years of enslaving our ancestors and extracting the wealth that built their empire? Perhaps before we dismiss Chinese investment out of fear of fictional consequences, we should demand compensation from the empire that actually stole from us—and continues to do so through finance, policy, and the Commonwealth charade.

Posted 14 July 2025, 10:32 p.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Give it up. You've got "CCP troll" stamped on your forehead. In any event, I suspect you may be a ChiCom propagandist AI bot in which case trying to reason with you is truly a hopeless endeavour, i.e., waste of time.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:01 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again for those hard of hearing: The Chinese are our 'friends' I received my first Chinese visa in 1999, worked in China for ten years, and my family—like many other Bahamians—benefited from full academic scholarships extended by the Chinese government. I’ve been a homeowner in China for the past nine years. These are not theories or YouTube fantasies—they are lived experiences, grounded in reality, mutual respect, and cooperation - not racism and discrimination.

Now, instead of engaging with facts, you’re flailing with cowardly playground-grade insults—"CCP troll," "propagandist," "AI bot"—because your argument has collapsed under the weight of its own ignorance. When you can't debate substance, you attack character. That’s the mark of someone out of ideas, out of depth, and out of place.

If stating facts makes me a “bot,” then you’re the glitch—programmed with Cold War talking points, parroting the same tired lines without a shred of original thought. So do us all a favour: unless you’re bringing evidence, experience, or insight to the table—shut up and sit down. This is a conversation for grown folk.

The Bahamas doesn’t need more politicians, parrots, or pawns.
What this country needs now—more than ever—are Warriors, not Traitors.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:26 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Amen! The U.S. government would be shocked to know the 'secret agreements' that already exist between our small nation and the CCP.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:56 a.m. Suggest removal

quavaduff says...

Well, we all know if you knew you would snitch to your white handlers

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:20 p.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

Excellent comments.
I am on the side of Island Warrior's arguments. Not all, but most.
However, if someone was intent on ruling by Divide and Conquer, who is winning?
We are here fighting amongst our Bahamian selves.
And, we are not winning. Are we?
Do we not understand that these are all multi-million dollar loans?
What is a loan?
While we are here arguing, our children will be strapped with these odious debts.
And, they are piling up like nobody's business.
The options available to a small country, heavily in debt, unable to pay their loans, are few.
The Bahamas, the Bahamian People will suffer severely as these debts pile up, and the "leaders" who approved them are off to whereever they bought property and opened bank accounts, using the Bahamian people's money to do so.
I am certain that this PLP administration is laughing right now, as the heat is off them for a few minutes.
The US and China pale in comparison to the dirty activities by our own "leaders".
Yes, or no?
We can whine all day about the very real crimes of other countries.
But, how are we doing here, for our own people?
Do Bahamians have their heads so deeply in the sand that they cannot see that it is our own people who are taking this country down?
All these big projects are there to give huge kickbacks to those involved, and to buy votes for the upcoming election.
Who doubts this?
I do not blame China, Britain, or the US for the selling out of The Bahamas.
I blame a largely ignorant Bahamian populace, untutored, selfish and without vision, who continue to vote for the most reckless, dishonest, and incompetent people they can find to elect to office.
No foreign country can match the damage we have done to ourselves.

Posted 15 July 2025, 8:53 a.m. Suggest removal

Sickened says...

Well said.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:27 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

LOL.....read your first sentence only.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:06 a.m. Suggest removal

JohnQ says...

None so blind as those who accept handouts from the CCP, and think that nothing is expected in return.

Posted 15 July 2025, 8:55 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

While some are quick to hurl racist slurs at China and drown in Cold War rhetoric, the real daylight robbery happening in our country is being conveniently ignored—especially when it comes in the form of cruise lines and foreign-owned operations on Bahamian soil. Where’s the outrage over the so-called “private islands” that siphon off millions in tourist revenue while contributing next to nothing to the Bahamian economy? These are foreign-run enclaves operating tax-free, exploiting our natural beauty, and leaving us with crumbs. Their transactions are processed in second countries, completely bypassing our VAT system, even though the operations are based right here in The Bahamas.

Where is the anger about shark diving businesses and other tourism ventures operating in Bahamian waters, using Bahamian resources, while their financial returns are cashed out abroad? Why is no one speaking on this? Is it because the offenders aren’t Chinese or Haitian? Is that what makes exploitation tolerable?

We’re so distracted calling China racist, we fail to see who’s picking our pockets in broad daylight. The problem isn’t just foreign powers—it’s our silence, our double standards, and the refusal to confront the systems and deals that actually bleed this country dry. We should demand accountability, not just from foreign partners, but from those who sit in boardrooms and Cabinet offices, and sign away our future for campaign kickbacks and private gain.

Until we’re brave enough to talk about all the bad deals—not just the ones involving China or Haiti—we’re not ready to fix anything.

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:47 a.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

Thank you.
Well said and true.

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:44 p.m. Suggest removal

Baha10 says...

Powerful arguments …

Posted 15 July 2025, 9:57 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Yup, but IslandWarrior may well be one of the new AI age ChiCom propagandist bots that are now trolling many websites that allow reader comments. The U.S. government is way behind in the information warfare game now being played by the ChiComs all over the internet. Even the CCP knows enough to ban in Communist China their very own number one information warfare weapon - TikTok.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:19 a.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

It’s fascinating how ExposedU2C7 continues frothing at the mouth about “ChiCom bots” and TikTok conspiracy theories—parroting Cold War paranoia like a relic stuck in a time warp—while completely dodging every single hard truth laid out before him.

You're obsessed with ghost stories of “information warfare,” yet blind to the very real, very present economic warfare being waged right here on Bahamian soil. No comment on cruise lines operating tax-free fiefdoms on our shores. No concern about shark dive operations cashing out in foreign banks while using Bahamian resources. No anger about private islands built on our land, for foreign profit, that give virtually nothing back to the public purse. Why? Because the exploiters in those cases aren’t Chinese or Haitian—so your outrage is conveniently put on mute.

You call others propaganda, but you’re the walking definition of distraction—screaming “China” while ignoring the theft happening under your nose. The Bahamas isn’t being sold out by AI bots—it’s being sold out by silence, by cowardice, and by people like you who are more comfortable slinging racial slurs than asking who’s signing the backroom deals and why the nation keeps losing while a few insiders keep winning.

Until you can address the real economic injustice with the same energy you bring to your keyboard crusade, your commentary is nothing but noise—empty, desperate, and irrelevant. The real war is not on your screen—it’s being fought over land, labour, and sovereignty. And sadly, you're on the wrong side of it.

Posted 15 July 2025, 10:31 a.m. Suggest removal

ExposedU2C says...

Yup, IslandWarrior is definitely a ChiCom AI Bot.

Posted 15 July 2025, 11:32 a.m. Suggest removal

Porcupine says...

I think you are right in your analysis.
Exposed avoids the truth about our own contributions to the sad state of affairs.
We know that there are trolls on every site, yes?

Posted 15 July 2025, 3:55 p.m. Suggest removal

IslandWarrior says...

If you are so easily manipulated by foreign elements operating within our country—abusing the very freedoms we grant them while deliberately stirring international discord—then you are no different from ExposedU2C, whose treachery is laid bare for all to see. To expose enemies of the state, I suppose my years of comments, critiques, and warnings now appear as mere "trolling" to those unwilling to confront the truth. But the real troll—the true danger to Bahamian sovereignty—is the one who consistently uses our platforms to peddle anti-Bahamian rhetoric and undermine national unity. Don't be so easily deceived by these agents.

Their record speaks for itself:
https://www.tribune242.com/users/Expose…

Posted 15 July 2025, 6:10 p.m. Suggest removal

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