Collection and Interpretation of data is not as simple as you seem to think it is. There are many variables (controlled & uncontrolled) that can influence a study. Hopefully, you know that?
Studies have to be carefully designed. You can't just pick a couple of things and look for a correlation. There is typically always an influence from other variables, so you have to design the study around those. Any researcher or statistician will tell you this. Also, remember the golden rule - correlation does not always mean causation..
And those studies you referred to offer nothing new that most people already assumed or knew about. Sorry, but nothing earth shattering there.
I don't think Cobalt ever said he/she wouldn't treat a patient. And, if you are so hell bent on privacy, maybe the information you require on deaths related to the vaccine (which as far as I know is zero), is not available because those people also wanted their medical history (vaccinated or not) to be kept private.
ThisisOurs, you are not entirely incorrect, but you are also not entirely correct. A lot of qualified MD's decide to stay in the Research field and forego the opportunity to practice medicine. My late uncle was one of these MD's. After a few years of practicing medicine he decided to move into the corporate world and spent most of his working life in the Research field working on conducting Clinical Trials and studying Pharmacokinetics, along with Biostatisticians. . The Doctors who you know who work with Statisticians are probably not practicing medicine, even though they may be qualified MD's. And if you do personally know doctors who are working with statisticians, then I think you should be able to ask them for the answers to your questions, right?
The term "Doctor" is not exclusive to Physicians, so I'm thinking there is a disconnect here. If you are referring to GP's, Physicians, Surgeons etc. then they do not typically do research.
Believe it or not, performing accurate and correct scientific research requires a certain skillset & understanding of how to do research and Physician's don't typically have these necessary skillsets to do this. This is why there are so many "false" studies out there on YouTube FB etc, conducted by 'Physicians'. As soon as your average layman sees a video by an author who is a physician, they think it has to be true, because that person is a Physician, whereas someone who has the necessary experience in the field of scientific research will immediately be able to poke holes in the design of the study or the data interpretation.
It's like saying any engineer will know how to design a bridge or a building, or a car or a spacecraft.
John, please understand the primary goal of the vaccine, is to reduce the chances of hospitalization and/or death. Covid cases will still occur even in the vaccinated, but the symptoms will be much milder. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. Oh and yes, COVID cases are declining in many countries mainly due to vaccinations & natural immunity from being previously infected.
*As a lay person I wish physicians would get together as a group to give us real research studying our own people.*
Sorry, but Physicians don't do Research, they diagnose and treat people. Research scientists, colleges, scientific institutions etc. do research.
Also, Israel is only offering boosters to people over 60 or those severely immunocompromised and this program only started a little over 2 weeks ago, so too early to say whether or not it will be effective
Wife and daughter just got back last week from Jackson Hole & Snake River. Said it was beautiful. Hope water level is okay given the drought Wyoming is having this year. Tight lines.
Bobsyeruncle says...
What about private charter or personal boats ? there's probably enough of those arriving to equal the number of passengers on a cruise ship.
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Bobsyeruncle says...
Collection and Interpretation of data is not as simple as you seem to think it is. There are many variables (controlled & uncontrolled) that can influence a study. Hopefully, you know that?
Studies have to be carefully designed. You can't just pick a couple of things and look for a correlation. There is typically always an influence from other variables, so you have to design the study around those. Any researcher or statistician will tell you this. Also, remember the golden rule - correlation does not always mean causation..
And those studies you referred to offer nothing new that most people already assumed or knew about. Sorry, but nothing earth shattering there.
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Bobsyeruncle says...
I don't think Cobalt ever said he/she wouldn't treat a patient. And, if you are so hell bent on privacy, maybe the information you require on deaths related to the vaccine (which as far as I know is zero), is not available because those people also wanted their medical history (vaccinated or not) to be kept private.
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Bobsyeruncle says...
ThisisOurs, you are not entirely incorrect, but you are also not entirely correct. A lot of qualified MD's decide to stay in the Research field and forego the opportunity to practice medicine. My late uncle was one of these MD's. After a few years of practicing medicine he decided to move into the corporate world and spent most of his working life in the Research field working on conducting Clinical Trials and studying Pharmacokinetics, along with Biostatisticians.
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The Doctors who you know who work with Statisticians are probably not practicing medicine, even though they may be qualified MD's. And if you do personally know doctors who are working with statisticians, then I think you should be able to ask them for the answers to your questions, right?
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Bobsyeruncle says...
The term "Doctor" is not exclusive to Physicians, so I'm thinking there is a disconnect here. If you are referring to GP's, Physicians, Surgeons etc. then they do not typically do research.
Believe it or not, performing accurate and correct scientific research requires a certain skillset & understanding of how to do research and Physician's don't typically have these necessary skillsets to do this. This is why there are so many "false" studies out there on YouTube FB etc, conducted by 'Physicians'. As soon as your average layman sees a video by an author who is a physician, they think it has to be true, because that person is a Physician, whereas someone who has the necessary experience in the field of scientific research will immediately be able to poke holes in the design of the study or the data interpretation.
It's like saying any engineer will know how to design a bridge or a building, or a car or a spacecraft.
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Bobsyeruncle says...
John, please understand the primary goal of the vaccine, is to reduce the chances of hospitalization and/or death. Covid cases will still occur even in the vaccinated, but the symptoms will be much milder. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.
Oh and yes, COVID cases are declining in many countries mainly due to vaccinations & natural immunity from being previously infected.
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Bobsyeruncle says...
*Don't worry, a filthy "unvaxxed" (quotes because this is very clearly not a vaccine)*
What is it then ? What do you personally know that no-one else in the healthcare & scientific world knows? I can't wait to learn
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Bobsyeruncle says...
*As a lay person I wish physicians would get together as a group to give us real research studying our own people.*
Sorry, but Physicians don't do Research, they diagnose and treat people. Research scientists, colleges, scientific institutions etc. do research.
Also, Israel is only offering boosters to people over 60 or those severely immunocompromised and this program only started a little over 2 weeks ago, so too early to say whether or not it will be effective
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Bobsyeruncle says...
Which nations have fully vaccinated populations?
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Bobsyeruncle says...
Wife and daughter just got back last week from Jackson Hole & Snake River. Said it was beautiful. Hope water level is okay given the drought Wyoming is having this year. Tight lines.
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