@Ashley In the states they do not let the mom stay simply because the child was born in the US. In fact, part of the argument against deportING illegals from the states is that it splits up families. In The Bahamas they argue that the Haitian children born to illegal immigrants in The Bahamas should be allowed to stay even if the parents are deported. Just goes to show that you can't win with these illegal immigrants and their enablers. These parents place their children in this predicament. It is their job to fix it and it is the job of the government to enforce laws even in the face of drummed up sob stories.
I have been hearing this anecdotal nonsense since I was in school and I can say with certainty that this was not the case for any of the public schools that I attended. Things may have changed, but let's try to base our opinions on real stats. Now since you want to exchange gossip, I heard that the children of illegal immigrants account for more than 60% of the overcrowded classrooms in government schools.
Cute response, but no dice. The short answer is that a "native Bahamian" is certainly not an illegal Haitian or other national who traveled to or chose to reside in the country recognized as The Bahamas without proper documentation. If there is in fact no native Bahamian, there is no native any nationality beyond the first set of adventurers who may or may not be the so called "native Americans". This includes the Arawaks, Caribs, etcetera, etcetera. If there are no illegal immigrants, then countries/borders don't exist, so please explain how that works in your world. Migration is natural, and I for one, would love to experience life in many different countries before I die. However, there is this thing called national sovereignty and the laws within (and respect for said laws) that prevent me from just packing up and going to just any country.
Agreed. How is that people with pending work permit applications are also said to have been working lawfully in The Bahamas for years? Did he mean citizenship applications perhaps, and if so, that is even more reason why a box of applications should not be signed off without the necessary due diligence.
Should this referendum be passed in future, I disagree that it should be retroactive beyond 2016 unless we can account for how many new citizens this will encompass and not without assurances of improved technology in clearing the queue. Otherwise, the waiting list could still go on and on without timely resolutions.
The current immigration laws are fine as is, and should only be tweaked to incorporate better technology to accommodate faster turnaround times and to offer permanent residency rather than citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. If the parents are here lawfully, the children can claim both until age 18, after which time they can make the choice. If the parents are illegal residents, their children should be deported right along with them and offered permanent residency, but not citizenship until they meet the criteria that is expected of all other permanent residents turned citizens.
Once again, I am simply speculating on reasons why they might have done that. However, panicked and angry concertgoers reacting as if RBDF is in cahoots with the organizers to further disenfranchise them is true hilarity. We don't know how many reports of threats and unrest were received, so until proven otherwise, as always, I will trust that law enforcement acted in the interest of maintaining order.
I don't know what to make of your random reference, but okay, at least you take time out to laugh cause with all your sky is falling episodes, it sure does not come across that way.
It should be pretty easy to find out if it is legal or not. I mean laws of The Bahamas are available online. Secondly, with someone stationed near the door, presumably with a key, it is not quite a hazard now is it? Do you not ever see this happening at businesses around closing time where the last of the patrons are locked in and let out as they wrap up their business? Schools and businesses also go on lock down for safety reasons when deemed necessary, so it really is a judgement call.
Well, if I were part of a group that included members that were alleged to have threatened to burn down the island and were involved looting, why yes, I would have a very antagonistic view of law enforcement and their actions. The fact that they were frustrated added to how they viewed any actions as antagonistic toward them, and that is if they didn't already have condescending and preconceived notions about law enforcement in 3rd world countries. Also, there was a snack machine in the image so I don't know about the no food and water bit. While I speculate on plausible reasons why this was done, you cant seem to come up with anything other than feeding into hysteria. Angry people are the most rational and should be believed without question right?
While you and others on here want to hold the MOT equally or more responsible for this failure, that is not the message being conveyed by the media. I don't doubt there was some paying off and looking the other way involved, but it was not Bahamas FyreFestival. It was Ja Rule's FyreFestival named after his existing business enterprise and tied to his celebrity image, which is why he is catching the heat more than anyone.
Cas0072 says...
@Ashley In the states they do not let the mom stay simply because the child was born in the US. In fact, part of the argument against deportING illegals from the states is that it splits up families. In The Bahamas they argue that the Haitian children born to illegal immigrants in The Bahamas should be allowed to stay even if the parents are deported. Just goes to show that you can't win with these illegal immigrants and their enablers. These parents place their children in this predicament. It is their job to fix it and it is the job of the government to enforce laws even in the face of drummed up sob stories.
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Cas0072 says...
I have been hearing this anecdotal nonsense since I was in school and I can say with certainty that this was not the case for any of the public schools that I attended. Things may have changed, but let's try to base our opinions on real stats. Now since you want to exchange gossip, I heard that the children of illegal immigrants account for more than 60% of the overcrowded classrooms in government schools.
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Cas0072 says...
Cute response, but no dice. The short answer is that a "native Bahamian" is certainly not an illegal Haitian or other national who traveled to or chose to reside in the country recognized as The Bahamas without proper documentation. If there is in fact no native Bahamian, there is no native any nationality beyond the first set of adventurers who may or may not be the so called "native Americans". This includes the Arawaks, Caribs, etcetera, etcetera. If there are no illegal immigrants, then countries/borders don't exist, so please explain how that works in your world. Migration is natural, and I for one, would love to experience life in many different countries before I die. However, there is this thing called national sovereignty and the laws within (and respect for said laws) that prevent me from just packing up and going to just any country.
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Cas0072 says...
Agreed. How is that people with pending work permit applications are also said to have been working lawfully in The Bahamas for years? Did he mean citizenship applications perhaps, and if so, that is even more reason why a box of applications should not be signed off without the necessary due diligence.
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Cas0072 says...
Should this referendum be passed in future, I disagree that it should be retroactive beyond 2016 unless we can account for how many new citizens this will encompass and not without assurances of improved technology in clearing the queue. Otherwise, the waiting list could still go on and on without timely resolutions.
The current immigration laws are fine as is, and should only be tweaked to incorporate better technology to accommodate faster turnaround times and to offer permanent residency rather than citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. If the parents are here lawfully, the children can claim both until age 18, after which time they can make the choice. If the parents are illegal residents, their children should be deported right along with them and offered permanent residency, but not citizenship until they meet the criteria that is expected of all other permanent residents turned citizens.
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Cas0072 says...
Once again, I am simply speculating on reasons why they might have done that. However, panicked and angry concertgoers reacting as if RBDF is in cahoots with the organizers to further disenfranchise them is true hilarity. We don't know how many reports of threats and unrest were received, so until proven otherwise, as always, I will trust that law enforcement acted in the interest of maintaining order.
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Cas0072 says...
I don't know what to make of your random reference, but okay, at least you take time out to laugh cause with all your sky is falling episodes, it sure does not come across that way.
On INSIGHT: Festival chaos should have been avoided
Posted 29 April 2017, 8:24 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
It should be pretty easy to find out if it is legal or not. I mean laws of The Bahamas are available online. Secondly, with someone stationed near the door, presumably with a key, it is not quite a hazard now is it? Do you not ever see this happening at businesses around closing time where the last of the patrons are locked in and let out as they wrap up their business? Schools and businesses also go on lock down for safety reasons when deemed necessary, so it really is a judgement call.
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Cas0072 says...
Well, if I were part of a group that included members that were alleged to have threatened to burn down the island and were involved looting, why yes, I would have a very antagonistic view of law enforcement and their actions. The fact that they were frustrated added to how they viewed any actions as antagonistic toward them, and that is if they didn't already have condescending and preconceived notions about law enforcement in 3rd world countries. Also, there was a snack machine in the image so I don't know about the no food and water bit. While I speculate on plausible reasons why this was done, you cant seem to come up with anything other than feeding into hysteria. Angry people are the most rational and should be believed without question right?
On INSIGHT: Festival chaos should have been avoided
Posted 29 April 2017, 8:13 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
While you and others on here want to hold the MOT equally or more responsible for this failure, that is not the message being conveyed by the media. I don't doubt there was some paying off and looking the other way involved, but it was not Bahamas FyreFestival. It was Ja Rule's FyreFestival named after his existing business enterprise and tied to his celebrity image, which is why he is catching the heat more than anyone.
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