I meant that the illegal Haitians and the so called Bahamians who are of Haitian descent take no issue with spouting off negativity against this country with no thought to the consequences. The process of identifying, documenting, and deporting illegals is not a witch hunt. It is called enforcing the law. No one said that Bahamian citizens should be deported, but I think you knew that. Bahamians, no matter how many generations deep should also be held accountable for their roles in this persistent issue. Just so that you don't feign confusion again, by accountable, I mean awarded with jail time and/or fines.
You don't have to prove to me that illegal Haitians are negatively expressing their opinions on something that has nothing to do with the issue at hand as this has been their MO. No one can control what other people say. I support identifying the illegals and getting them out so that they can test freedom of speech in Haiti.
People always conveniently miss the fact that The Bahamas is a small, third world country as well. Some of us like to pretend that the country has the resources to do this and that, but the expenses and the lack of finances to do basic things is very telling. I don't believe for an instant, that any administration whether FNM or PLP, would intentionally withhold food and other basic amenities from people just for sport. You are correct. As a country we struggle to supplement basic needs of our own poor local populations and not because it is fun to watch. Where is the OAS to speak on that and the conditions of people living in the shanty towns? It is easy to write reports, especially using second hand information while failing to also acknowledge the possible root causes, or providing ideas on how to carry out these actions that they valiantly suggest. Where are the true humanitarian organizations that actually help people out by extending charity instead of drafting documents that will only intensify tensions.
And? One apparently accepted his Bahamian nationality and one is hell bent on making this country Haiti part 2. One may have Haitian roots, but the one that was born in Haiti is Haitian in his heart and mind. He does not mean this country any good. By the way, there is nothing wrong with migrating. It's how you do it.
I was able to easily decipher which was which. One is attempting to operate within the bounds of the law and diplomacy (#FredMitchell), and one is completely unhinged with the outrageous remarks (FredSmith). It is really not that hard.
I don't believe that anyone has a problem with legal immigration. I personally encourage it. Illegal immigration, en masse, presents many a problem whether you are ready to admit that or not. Some people, your words, " will sell dey ma" to turn Haitians (illegal or otherwise) against Bahamians, and I am not so sure that Fred Smith is not one of them of whom we speak. This is based on his own words,
If he made remarks that could be perceived as inciting an uprising, it certainly does bare investigation. I am not aware of a country suing an individual for slander, but it is what it is, defamation and slander. It should certainly be an option, but oh well. Fred Smith appears to be the one getting folks riled up with the extreme language. I don't see the minister doing this. However, if Mitchell is not serious, eventually we will find out because the results will amount to the same thing as any other person in office would have accomplished. Absolutely nothing.
Actually, Smith's comments are more than tasteless. They fall into the category of defamation and slander as they were outright lies intended to ruin the reputation of this country. A country that relies on tourism. Fortunately, even the world community knows not to take him seriously so we did not suffer the effects of his lies. As a result, he will likely not be held accountable in a court of law. As for Fred Mitchell's comments, he is absolutely correct in encouraging people to stay calm and allow the matter to be properly investigated.
Cas0072 says...
I meant that the illegal Haitians and the so called Bahamians who are of Haitian descent take no issue with spouting off negativity against this country with no thought to the consequences. The process of identifying, documenting, and deporting illegals is not a witch hunt. It is called enforcing the law. No one said that Bahamian citizens should be deported, but I think you knew that. Bahamians, no matter how many generations deep should also be held accountable for their roles in this persistent issue. Just so that you don't feign confusion again, by accountable, I mean awarded with jail time and/or fines.
On Mitchell: We will fight smears against country
Posted 24 February 2015, 5:17 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
They have basically shown no difference in attitude, so both.
On Mitchell: We will fight smears against country
Posted 24 February 2015, 4:07 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
You don't have to prove to me that illegal Haitians are negatively expressing their opinions on something that has nothing to do with the issue at hand as this has been their MO. No one can control what other people say. I support identifying the illegals and getting them out so that they can test freedom of speech in Haiti.
On Mitchell: We will fight smears against country
Posted 24 February 2015, 3:53 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
I believe they are saying cc (carbon copy), as in include Fred Smith on the discussion. That also fits with the other comments.
On Mitchell: We will fight smears against country
Posted 24 February 2015, 3:02 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
People always conveniently miss the fact that The Bahamas is a small, third world country as well. Some of us like to pretend that the country has the resources to do this and that, but the expenses and the lack of finances to do basic things is very telling. I don't believe for an instant, that any administration whether FNM or PLP, would intentionally withhold food and other basic amenities from people just for sport. You are correct. As a country we struggle to supplement basic needs of our own poor local populations and not because it is fun to watch. Where is the OAS to speak on that and the conditions of people living in the shanty towns? It is easy to write reports, especially using second hand information while failing to also acknowledge the possible root causes, or providing ideas on how to carry out these actions that they valiantly suggest. Where are the true humanitarian organizations that actually help people out by extending charity instead of drafting documents that will only intensify tensions.
On Commission asks Bahamas government to act on mistreatment claims
Posted 21 February 2015, 10:17 a.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
And? One apparently accepted his Bahamian nationality and one is hell bent on making this country Haiti part 2. One may have Haitian roots, but the one that was born in Haiti is Haitian in his heart and mind. He does not mean this country any good. By the way, there is nothing wrong with migrating. It's how you do it.
On Mitchell calls on URCA to investigate radio comments
Posted 20 February 2015, 10:06 a.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
I was able to easily decipher which was which. One is attempting to operate within the bounds of the law and diplomacy (#FredMitchell), and one is completely unhinged with the outrageous remarks (FredSmith). It is really not that hard.
On Mitchell calls on URCA to investigate radio comments
Posted 19 February 2015, 11:04 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
I don't believe that anyone has a problem with legal immigration. I personally encourage it. Illegal immigration, en masse, presents many a problem whether you are ready to admit that or not. Some people, your words, " will sell dey ma" to turn Haitians (illegal or otherwise) against Bahamians, and I am not so sure that Fred Smith is not one of them of whom we speak. This is based on his own words,
On Mitchell calls on URCA to investigate radio comments
Posted 19 February 2015, 10:52 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
If he made remarks that could be perceived as inciting an uprising, it certainly does bare investigation. I am not aware of a country suing an individual for slander, but it is what it is, defamation and slander. It should certainly be an option, but oh well. Fred Smith appears to be the one getting folks riled up with the extreme language. I don't see the minister doing this. However, if Mitchell is not serious, eventually we will find out because the results will amount to the same thing as any other person in office would have accomplished. Absolutely nothing.
On Mitchell calls on URCA to investigate radio comments
Posted 19 February 2015, 3:54 p.m. Suggest removal
Cas0072 says...
Actually, Smith's comments are more than tasteless. They fall into the category of defamation and slander as they were outright lies intended to ruin the reputation of this country. A country that relies on tourism. Fortunately, even the world community knows not to take him seriously so we did not suffer the effects of his lies. As a result, he will likely not be held accountable in a court of law. As for Fred Mitchell's comments, he is absolutely correct in encouraging people to stay calm and allow the matter to be properly investigated.
On Mitchell calls on URCA to investigate radio comments
Posted 19 February 2015, 3:26 p.m. Suggest removal