so you're saying don't get on a boat with a Chinese person?

Legalise handguns don't legalise handguns whatever Loki, but if you do this place will surely turn into a live action videogame. 50 pts. to the church mum who panics and shoots the packing boy for running after her...with her change; Open season for the shady folks who've popularised a new clandestine tourism product...huntin'' niggers...we 'civilians' would make the trade warriors envy. And the paperwork for all those 'unapproved' graves...well now you're talking unhappy civil servants...with guns. It would be MADness (mutually assured destruction) We don't have the [[collective] fortitude for such measures...not yet anyway.

Punishment, however harsh, is a countermeasure,not an antidote, you want to lower crime you insulate yourself against crime, then you formulate appropriate deterrents, then you devise punishments, but it is also imperative that the best possible avenues to reform be made available.

Where there is the death penalty, there are no bunny rabbits on death row.

That fear you speak of governs your decisions and is how you feel about dying and you're projecting it onto others to try to influence a socio-political decision when governments and scholars around the world have surmised that the death penalty is not a deterrent to murder- not based on the fear of dying but on the study of human behaviour; i.e. people who kill never in the moments leading up to taking another person's life figure that they will be caught and put to death, not even the executioner can guarantee that. I wager that the average ego would suppose that if 99 out of 100 are caught and put to death they would be the lone escape artist.

Besides, you assume some commonalities in your reasoning and those of the 'foot soldiers' in the [trade] wars we have on the streets, but they are the walking dead and its further possible that all the sweetness you've come to know that makes life worth living exists for them only in the books they never read.

No, the death penalty is a vain and useless control over another man, it might even lead to more murders (collateral damage) as criminals facing death might choose to try to eliminate anyone who aims to deliver them to the hangman.

Empty-headed youth acting in military (or paramilitary) formation in the hands of any corrupt and/or inept government would be a weapon of mass-destruction or a way of legitimising gang activity, can I point you instead to the essays of Ralph Waldo Emerson on individualism and transcendentalism if you are interested in a palliative approach...or perhaps you can compare and contrast the two ideas; Pancasila Youth is one example to look up, the Territorial Army is another...

Then it seems you got your timeline right

And it seems you got your timeline wrong: The local Vets asked for $50 then after they refused, they said they didn't need the help not ask for $50 and said they didn't need the help.

All of this is a public forum and whether it came from an official letter or unofficial posts several positions have been made public.

But I concede and nullify all reference to their charity work; based on the excerpt from that letter alone I still agree that they know what they are doing with their math and I still see no damning evidence of unfair negotiations because you still have a situation of competing markets. And if we are cutting away the fat, any supposition that they are greedy, or ineffectual, or shameful can go out the window too.

And I in no way present myself as an authority, but last time I checked I was still on and informal forum that welcomed most ideas and the only restrictions I was under was no cursing and to maintain respect. If you are telling me now that I have spoken out of turn, then I can easily accept that as well. Ain't no thang.

I haven't even read past your first sentence but if you think I'm attacking you then I have said something wrong and I have done more harm than good. I am sincere in my question.

IF six weeks after OP takes place an army of spayed and neutered dogs ravage downtown and the cruise port and the government decides it's time for the animals to be rounded up and destroyed, Fighting to destroy them humanely will fall on the laps of Bahamian vets and advocates and money will have to be raised again for that programme AND to delay the inevitable as long as possible with adoption drives and housing and care. All facets of animal welfare is their business and they have to account for all of it.

Pragmatic management of this issue is not just about spaying and neutering or love and care. It's mostly about money which is why I suspect they have asked for more.

Ironically we are still fortunate in this situation that management of strays hasn't advanced to that of modern cities because they destroy their animals quickly. Our vets are caring enough and advocate enough and are not capricious or OP wouldn't even be on the table (last year, this, year or any year) in the first place

So again I say I hope for a win-win, who hates a win-win?

I know that but they said they re-negotiated the price from $30 to $50, they explained why, you in your world in your math always expect prices to go down but in other people's real world sometimes they go up and up and up. I don't know why they haven't reached the point of diminishing returns but I suspect it's because they are all to familiar with the work and costs of animal welfare in The Bahamas and still feel that they shouldn't take themselves out of the equation even if it amounts to a higher total. And I got that they want to do more charitable work from the few of 274 posts that were begging for some understanding of the work they have on their plate not OP's plate. And I can't call anybody a liar, not until I know they're lying.

Why do you think they upped the price on charity work?