Economist is trying to be rational with a people who do not think rationally. Even if we the people of the Bahamas decide to continue providing free education for the many, many, many children of the illegal Haitian, something must be done to at least document the amount of these bastards that are running around our society. Cause trust me, many years from now, these same children can be the very ones that take on the Bahamians like the terrorists that were involved with the Charlie Hebdo shooting in France. The two brothers that were responsible for this tragedy also belonged to immigrants. Their allegiance were NOT for the country that fed them and provided them with a good education. Just saying..
@Economist-You are absolutely correct! We do need a starting point for discussion. Two things though-Firstly, I am far from being an emotionalist. You cannot label people for calling you out my friend. Secondly, there are two sides to a coin. But you know what? I am been pondering this whole vibe dred, in particular the pending policy that will demand that children that are non Bahamian require a student permit for registration. Further, my friend, just to prove to myself that I am not being unfair or bias in my accessment of this situation, I was able question about 20 Haitian parents, in which 15 of them was illegal. 100% of those questioned believe that the new policy is unfair. When I asked them why, most believe that it is the government's responsibility to provide free education.
Before I continue, let me be clear on something. I am by now way prejudice against any nationality. In fact, I embrace and learn from different cultures. My greatest pet peeve however, is when people are ungrateful! What makes matters worst is when people are not willing or careless about resolving a situation. The greatest problem with the illegal Haitian immigrant is that he does not want to make ANY contribution whatsoever if he can get away with it. As long as he is working, he is fine. All of his monies go back to his peoplee in Haiti. He would try to manipulate the system as much as possible so to NOT pay any bills or fees while living in the Bahamas. If he is made to pay some a fee or a bill, he tries to bribe some official to pay as little of that fee as possible.
So my question to Economist and all those who oppose the proposed policy: Tell me, should me continue to allow illegal parents, particularly haitian women to bring forth a huge amount of children, put them all in government school without any input from the government? Some illegal Haitian women have as much as 10 children in the government school system. So what then is your answer. Let's just say that there are about 20,000 illegal Haitian women who have one child in government school each year.( And trust me I am being very modest with this figure.) Let's face it, these women pay no taxes or make any contribution to society. Should the Bahamian people who are made to pay taxes and other bills have to pay for the schooling of each of these 20,000 children each year? Huh?? Tell me. What should happen?
Girly,Girly, Girly... You ain't get it yet? Why are you still trying to debate with economist on the issue of illegal haitians? He and DEDDIE would like to see ONLY one thing happen regarding illegal haitian immigrants in the Bahamas, and that is they be regularized in some form or the other. They will twist and turn and misconstrue any article in this paper that points to anything involving immigration. Don't expect for them to reach any kind of compromise either: That Haitian blood is ingrained deep in their veins, so their sense of reasoning is nil. Again, here is Economist solution to the problem of illegal haitians in the Bahamas:
*"I would consider granting citizenship to those who have been here over twenty years and are making a valuable contribution to our society. Thirdly, I would consider granting residence, with the right to work in the business for which they are trained or skilled to those who had been here for over fifteen years and can show a connection with the country (Bahamian wife or husband with or without children). For those who have lived here for over ten years I would consider granting a work permit. Again they would also have to show a connection with the country (husband /wife)."*
You see what I am saying? If you really examine Economist's statement above you will see that he wants all of his people to be regularized by some means. So that when this happens you will have more of them to drag the Bahamian flag behind them during Haitian flag day and more to threaten Bahamians with the Columbian necktie vibe!
the nassau institute has been hidden for years and was silent on many other pressing issues that have effected the Bahamian masses. Now all of a sudden we are hearing from them?
@DEDDIE: "their are more Haitian born children in our school system" or THERE are more Haitian born children in our school system? You may consider me mentally challenge when it comes to this issue, but I see that you are grammatically challenged when it comes to commenting on any issue. :( One love still though
"But, first and foremost, Haiti must struggle with its own demons to rebuild its ecology devastated first by the colonists, now by the Haitians themselves. It must also stop the culture of waiting for Washington or from the western world to bring solutions for its woes."
The above is an excerpt from a Commentary written by a Haitian, John H. Charles, titled "The way ahead for Haiti" While it may be unrelated to the topic in todays article it still makes an interesting read. I say kudos to someone who is looking at the problem from within and not blaming the rest of the world for the problems Haitians are facing. www.caribbeannewsnow.com/topstory-Comme…
Emac says...
So true!
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Emac says...
Please excuse my typos. Was typing really fast! :(
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Emac says...
Economist is trying to be rational with a people who do not think rationally. Even if we the people of the Bahamas decide to continue providing free education for the many, many, many children of the illegal Haitian, something must be done to at least document the amount of these bastards that are running around our society. Cause trust me, many years from now, these same children can be the very ones that take on the Bahamians like the terrorists that were involved with the Charlie Hebdo shooting in France. The two brothers that were responsible for this tragedy also belonged to immigrants. Their allegiance were NOT for the country that fed them and provided them with a good education. Just saying..
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Emac says...
@Economist-You are absolutely correct! We do need a starting point for discussion. Two things though-Firstly, I am far from being an emotionalist. You cannot label people for calling you out my friend. Secondly, there are two sides to a coin. But you know what? I am been pondering this whole vibe dred, in particular the pending policy that will demand that children that are non Bahamian require a student permit for registration. Further, my friend, just to prove to myself that I am not being unfair or bias in my accessment of this situation, I was able question about 20 Haitian parents, in which 15 of them was illegal. 100% of those questioned believe that the new policy is unfair. When I asked them why, most believe that it is the government's responsibility to provide free education.
Before I continue, let me be clear on something. I am by now way prejudice against any nationality. In fact, I embrace and learn from different cultures. My greatest pet peeve however, is when people are ungrateful! What makes matters worst is when people are not willing or careless about resolving a situation. The greatest problem with the illegal Haitian immigrant is that he does not want to make ANY contribution whatsoever if he can get away with it. As long as he is working, he is fine. All of his monies go back to his peoplee in Haiti. He would try to manipulate the system as much as possible so to NOT pay any bills or fees while living in the Bahamas. If he is made to pay some a fee or a bill, he tries to bribe some official to pay as little of that fee as possible.
So my question to Economist and all those who oppose the proposed policy: Tell me, should me continue to allow illegal parents, particularly haitian women to bring forth a huge amount of children, put them all in government school without any input from the government? Some illegal Haitian women have as much as 10 children in the government school system. So what then is your answer. Let's just say that there are about 20,000 illegal Haitian women who have one child in government school each year.( And trust me I am being very modest with this figure.) Let's face it, these women pay no taxes or make any contribution to society. Should the Bahamian people who are made to pay taxes and other bills have to pay for the schooling of each of these 20,000 children each year? Huh?? Tell me. What should happen?
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Emac says...
Girly,Girly, Girly... You ain't get it yet? Why are you still trying to debate with economist on the issue of illegal haitians? He and DEDDIE would like to see ONLY one thing happen regarding illegal haitian immigrants in the Bahamas, and that is they be regularized in some form or the other. They will twist and turn and misconstrue any article in this paper that points to anything involving immigration. Don't expect for them to reach any kind of compromise either: That Haitian blood is ingrained deep in their veins, so their sense of reasoning is nil. Again, here is Economist solution to the problem of illegal haitians in the Bahamas:
*"I would consider granting citizenship to those who have been here over twenty years and are making a valuable contribution to our society. Thirdly, I would consider granting residence, with the right to work in the business for which they are trained or skilled to those who had been here for over fifteen years and can show a connection with the country (Bahamian wife or husband with or without children). For those who have lived here for over ten years I would consider granting a work permit. Again they would also have to show a connection with the country (husband /wife)."*
You see what I am saying? If you really examine Economist's statement above you will see that he wants all of his people to be regularized by some means. So that when this happens you will have more of them to drag the Bahamian flag behind them during Haitian flag day and more to threaten Bahamians with the Columbian necktie vibe!
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Emac says...
the nassau institute has been hidden for years and was silent on many other pressing issues that have effected the Bahamian masses. Now all of a sudden we are hearing from them?
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Emac says...
Oh LOL
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Emac says...
@DEDDIE: "their are more Haitian born children in our school system" or THERE are more Haitian born children in our school system? You may consider me mentally challenge when it comes to this issue, but I see that you are grammatically challenged when it comes to commenting on any issue. :( One love still though
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Emac says...
That was always their policy.
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Emac says...
"But, first and foremost, Haiti must struggle with its own demons to rebuild its ecology devastated first by the colonists, now by the Haitians themselves. It must also stop the culture of waiting for Washington or from the western world to bring solutions for its woes."
The above is an excerpt from a Commentary written by a Haitian, John H. Charles, titled "The way ahead for Haiti" While it may be unrelated to the topic in todays article it still makes an interesting read. I say kudos to someone who is looking at the problem from within and not blaming the rest of the world for the problems Haitians are facing.
www.caribbeannewsnow.com/topstory-Comme…
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