It is a requirement to prove that you have lawful presence. If you choose to have no identification with you, it can be proven by other means. Jean-Rony and/or Jean-Charles could not be verified as such, or as having been born in the country. It is irreponsible to encourage people to forgo identifying documents, so that illegals (possibly criminals with no verifiable past) can roam freely among us.
This man himself admitted to having a criminal record. That alone should disqualify him from obtaining citizenship. And there is still the possibility that he committed another crime by assuming someone's identity. To my knowledge the questions surrouding his identity was never conclusively resolved. A thirty-five year old who fumbles his birthdate and legal name is very likely not who he claims to be. At the very least, the public should be advised as to the outcome of that investigation before his application moves forward. Or did they even bother to conduct one? They make it too easy for illegals and their offspring...no wonder they keep coming; no repercussions for anything.
There is no law that prevents Haitian citizens born abroad from passing their citizenship onto their offspring. This is the same of any other nationality. Intentionally forgoing a critical part of the citizenship application process should not create entitlements and claims to statelessness when it truly does not exist. Mr Campbell has a vested interest in this matter, and is simply trying confuse what is already clear just to make it easier for Haitians to obtain status
The grandchildren of Haitian nationals are entitled to Haitian citizenship. Even if grandparents are now Bahamian. The grandparents had Haitian documents, so should their children and therefore, grandchildren. Because people make the conscious decision to forgo their birthright entitlements, doesn't change anything.
Why is she still being considered for citizenship is the question. I'm sure it was her dream to be on the defence force so that she could disrespect Bahamian laws from the inside. However, as a 'citizen in waiting' she has shown zero respect for law enforcers...even sending one to the hospital. As she claimed it was the four of them that attacked her, but even the Tribune couldnt confirm her injuries. She then interfered with police officers as they tried to make an arrest...and they responded in kind. These two illegal acts alone should disqualify her from citizenship. She is no victim. She is a bigetty criminal with no remorse, or sense of responsibility for the role she played in her current circumstances.
@pappasmurff36 Prior to receiving her Bahamian citizenship, the mother was Haitian, passport and all. If she was allowed to forgo this critical part of the application process, it's no wonder she feels so entitled. She put her child in this so called limbo. It's up to her, not the government, to find the fastest route to get help. But it seems she prefers to make a martyr of her.
This misplaced blame is very irresponsible. And even if she is successful in obtaining a Bahamian passport, it will not guarantee a visa to US. If this child succumbs to her illness, this could incite the Haitian community to a Bahamian version of the recent Port Au Prince riots and looting. Mom needs to grow up, and accept responsibility instead of letting her ego and entitled behavior be her guide.
There are solutions that don’t involve parading this child as a mascot for illegal immigrants and whining about “unfair” laws. The Bahamian father can be granted full custody and secure status for her. Or the Haitian embassy in Bahamas can do its job and fast track a Haitian passport (which she needs in a few years, anyway). So that a US visa, that will allow her to travel, can be issued.
It's not hard either...there's a reason they're not flocking to Jamaica, Cuba or even Long Island. They need to impose extreme fines on illegal entrants and their enablers and not give officials leeway for "stern warnings" in lieu of.. . Secondly, leaders need to lead logically and not like emotional basket cases because of their personal lineage or to be "humanatarians". The Bahamas is a country, not a charity. Do not tell them if they're born here they're automatically entitled to Bahamian citizenship it's not true. It only encourages them to take the risk. And do not build low cost housing for their now adult offspring. Some already believe by just making it here, they're entitled to free land...this validates that. Ie Stop making illegals feel entitled.
The government is so naïve (or pretends to be) when it comes to Haitians. They honestly still have no clue who resides in those shanty towns. How can they honestly believe that those who harbor illegals are forthcoming in this survey, when they go to great lengths to evade the same officials?
My2centz says...
It is a requirement to prove that you have lawful presence. If you choose to have no identification with you, it can be proven by other means. Jean-Rony and/or Jean-Charles could not be verified as such, or as having been born in the country. It is irreponsible to encourage people to forgo identifying documents, so that illegals (possibly criminals with no verifiable past) can roam freely among us.
On Jean Rony makes citizenship move
Posted 3 November 2018, 5:54 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
This man himself admitted to having a criminal record. That alone should disqualify him from obtaining citizenship. And there is still the possibility that he committed another crime by assuming someone's identity. To my knowledge the questions surrouding his identity was never conclusively resolved. A thirty-five year old who fumbles his birthdate and legal name is very likely not who he claims to be. At the very least, the public should be advised as to the outcome of that investigation before his application moves forward. Or did they even bother to conduct one? They make it too easy for illegals and their offspring...no wonder they keep coming; no repercussions for anything.
On Jean Rony makes citizenship move
Posted 3 November 2018, 5:43 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
There is no law that prevents Haitian citizens born abroad from passing their citizenship onto their offspring. This is the same of any other nationality. Intentionally forgoing a critical part of the citizenship application process should not create entitlements and claims to statelessness when it truly does not exist. Mr Campbell has a vested interest in this matter, and is simply trying confuse what is already clear just to make it easier for Haitians to obtain status
On Campbell confirms the kids in limbo
Posted 30 October 2018, 8:23 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
The grandchildren of Haitian nationals are entitled to Haitian citizenship. Even if grandparents are now Bahamian. The grandparents had Haitian documents, so should their children and therefore, grandchildren. Because people make the conscious decision to forgo their birthright entitlements, doesn't change anything.
On 'Haiti must deal with children of migrants, not Bahamas'
Posted 15 October 2018, 8:15 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
Why is she still being considered for citizenship is the question. I'm sure it was her dream to be on the defence force so that she could disrespect Bahamian laws from the inside. However, as a 'citizen in waiting' she has shown zero respect for law enforcers...even sending one to the hospital. As she claimed it was the four of them that attacked her, but even the Tribune couldnt confirm her injuries. She then interfered with police officers as they tried to make an arrest...and they responded in kind. These two illegal acts alone should disqualify her from citizenship. She is no victim. She is a bigetty criminal with no remorse, or sense of responsibility for the role she played in her current circumstances.
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On INSIGHT: Five years of shattered dreams
Posted 27 August 2018, 5:36 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
@pappasmurff36 Prior to receiving her Bahamian citizenship, the mother was Haitian, passport and all. If she was allowed to forgo this critical part of the application process, it's no wonder she feels so entitled. She put her child in this so called limbo. It's up to her, not the government, to find the fastest route to get help. But it seems she prefers to make a martyr of her.
This misplaced blame is very irresponsible. And even if she is successful in obtaining a Bahamian passport, it will not guarantee a visa to US. If this child succumbs to her illness, this could incite the Haitian community to a Bahamian version of the recent Port Au Prince riots and looting. Mom needs to grow up, and accept responsibility instead of letting her ego and entitled behavior be her guide.
On ‘Please - answer my girl’s prayers’: Mum still waits for govt to help sick daughter
Posted 4 August 2018, 9:42 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
Of course. Otherwise, what was his point in publicly parading a terminally I'll child around? It certainly wasn't to get her immediate help.
On Taranique case 'shows need for naturalisation law'
Posted 30 July 2018, 5:17 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
There are solutions that don’t involve parading this child as a mascot for illegal immigrants and whining about “unfair” laws. The Bahamian father can be granted full custody and secure status for her. Or the Haitian embassy in Bahamas can do its job and fast track a Haitian passport (which she needs in a few years, anyway). So that a US visa, that will allow her to travel, can be issued.
On Trapped - by lack of ‘official’ status: Immigration rules catch teen who needs US surgery
Posted 27 July 2018, 4:51 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
It's not hard either...there's a reason they're not flocking to Jamaica, Cuba or even Long Island. They need to impose extreme fines on illegal entrants and their enablers and not give officials leeway for "stern warnings" in lieu of.. . Secondly, leaders need to lead logically and not like emotional basket cases because of their personal lineage or to be "humanatarians". The Bahamas is a country, not a charity. Do not tell them if they're born here they're automatically entitled to Bahamian citizenship it's not true. It only encourages them to take the risk. And do not build low cost housing for their now adult offspring. Some already believe by just making it here, they're entitled to free land...this validates that. Ie Stop making illegals feel entitled.
On Stopping migrants 'not as easy as it looks'
Posted 30 May 2018, 12:59 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
The government is so naïve (or pretends to be) when it comes to Haitians. They honestly still have no clue who resides in those shanty towns. How can they honestly believe that those who harbor illegals are forthcoming in this survey, when they go to great lengths to evade the same officials?
On Shanty town census – majority have status
Posted 17 May 2018, 12:59 p.m. Suggest removal