> Take it or leave it, but it is a fact and it will determine the next election, which means concerned Bahamians need to address that fact.
And what do you want Bahamians of all races to do to please and "address" white Bahamians who do not support Hubert Minnis? This I've just got to hear.
> The following is a factual statement: Most white Bahamians do not support Hubert Alexander Minnis.
Thank you for finally getting to the argument. Now, what does a person's skin color have to do with political support in this context? Why differentiate Bahamians by their skin color? Do white Bahamians hold a view of Minnis that black Bahamians do not? The answer is no. When I referred to your skin color, you quickly sought to rebuff me by stating emphatically that you are Bahamian, suggesting that I should leave your skin color out of it. Wonderful. You are a white Bahamian though, correct? So my calling you a white Bahamian was simply stating "reality", right? Yet you took umbridge with my seeking to form any argument whatsoever based on your race. I am taking the same umbridge with Scott, but you are rushing to Scott's defence. It suggests to me that you do not have a problem with racial arguments at all as you claimed to have during the Tennyson debate - you simply have a problem with negative racial arguments targeting the race to which you belong.
Does someone need to agree with your positions to not support the PLP? At what point have you ever seen me give any support whatsoever to the bottom of the barrel PLP? Meanwhile, you are asking me to "do what it takes", yet you do not plan to support a Minnis-led ticket at the polls. Well, how about some coffee for you - if Bahamians do not vote FNM, the PLP will not be going anywhere. So perhaps you need to re-consider what idiocy means as you continue to hurl the term like a child with a brand new Frisbee. I loathed the day the FNM chose Minnis, and the sad reality is, he will almost certainly be taking the FNM into the next general election.
When we all angrily reacted to Tennyson's tactics, we all agreed that race should not be used to further a political argument in this country. Almost no right-thinking person supports Hubert Minnis. So what is the need to insert "white" into this? How does that productively advance any argument Minnis detractors are putting forward? I don't support Hubert Minnis. Never have and never will, and skin color has absolutely nothing to do with it. Whenever race is disingenuously brought into the discussion, it demeans us all no matter what "color" we are. Stick to the issues affecting this nation and its citizens and stop inserting race where it ought not be inserted.
And still, for all your illogical ranting, you have yet to address the actual issue here, which is the argument put forward by Scott. And look who is catching feelings here. All you have done is hurl insults since you began ranting. You are an angry white person in a majority black country. Just admit it. Truth is good for the soul. No need to seek to justify it by bringing in illogically fallacious arguments. Some of us are simply not as angry as you seem to be, and hence, if it is within us, can view subjects more rationally.
Ah, the subjectivity of "reality". Tennyson also spoke about white Bahamians and their financial behavior in the FNM. But he was slammed for doing this. Now Scott has done the same thing, yet now he is only stating "reality".
Face reality? Have you read the EU's most recent report on endemic and widespread corruption in European countries, corruption credited with the weakening of our global economy in addition to the economies of those individual countries? You keep throwing terms like intelligence and idiocy, yet you seem very racially jaundiced in your world view. As for China, which you are stuck on today, do you know that the nation's entire political and economic structure is built and sustained substantively on corruption? Do you know that global agencies state that China's corruption eclipses that of even the most rogue of African nations?
Your commentary today is indeed the Theatre of Non Sequitur. Continue to evade the actual subject matter here if you think that advances something worthy of advancement.
> If you can't understand what African style governance is in 2016, given the corruption that has plagued Africa for decades, then you are a politically correct idiot, and I don't think that is what you are.
Corruption that has plagued Africa for decades? Indeed it has. If you believe that black-led countries have the monopoly on corruption (even while daring to speak about China as just one example) then you are a politically incorrect bigot, and I don't think that is what you are.
Publius says...
> Take it or leave it, but it is a fact and it will determine the next election, which means concerned Bahamians need to address that fact.
And what do you want Bahamians of all races to do to please and "address" white Bahamians who do not support Hubert Minnis? This I've just got to hear.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 3:07 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
> The following is a factual statement: Most white Bahamians do not support Hubert Alexander Minnis.
Thank you for finally getting to the argument. Now, what does a person's skin color have to do with political support in this context? Why differentiate Bahamians by their skin color? Do white Bahamians hold a view of Minnis that black Bahamians do not? The answer is no. When I referred to your skin color, you quickly sought to rebuff me by stating emphatically that you are Bahamian, suggesting that I should leave your skin color out of it. Wonderful. You are a white Bahamian though, correct? So my calling you a white Bahamian was simply stating "reality", right? Yet you took umbridge with my seeking to form any argument whatsoever based on your race. I am taking the same umbridge with Scott, but you are rushing to Scott's defence. It suggests to me that you do not have a problem with racial arguments at all as you claimed to have during the Tennyson debate - you simply have a problem with negative racial arguments targeting the race to which you belong.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 3:05 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
Does someone need to agree with your positions to not support the PLP? At what point have you ever seen me give any support whatsoever to the bottom of the barrel PLP? Meanwhile, you are asking me to "do what it takes", yet you do not plan to support a Minnis-led ticket at the polls. Well, how about some coffee for you - if Bahamians do not vote FNM, the PLP will not be going anywhere. So perhaps you need to re-consider what idiocy means as you continue to hurl the term like a child with a brand new Frisbee. I loathed the day the FNM chose Minnis, and the sad reality is, he will almost certainly be taking the FNM into the next general election.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:56 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
When we all angrily reacted to Tennyson's tactics, we all agreed that race should not be used to further a political argument in this country. Almost no right-thinking person supports Hubert Minnis. So what is the need to insert "white" into this? How does that productively advance any argument Minnis detractors are putting forward? I don't support Hubert Minnis. Never have and never will, and skin color has absolutely nothing to do with it. Whenever race is disingenuously brought into the discussion, it demeans us all no matter what "color" we are. Stick to the issues affecting this nation and its citizens and stop inserting race where it ought not be inserted.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:51 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
And still, for all your illogical ranting, you have yet to address the actual issue here, which is the argument put forward by Scott. And look who is catching feelings here. All you have done is hurl insults since you began ranting. You are an angry white person in a majority black country. Just admit it. Truth is good for the soul. No need to seek to justify it by bringing in illogically fallacious arguments. Some of us are simply not as angry as you seem to be, and hence, if it is within us, can view subjects more rationally.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:38 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
> Nobody accused Tennyson of playing the race card when he described financial reality.
Yes, they did. You may not have, but that has nothing to do with anyone else.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:33 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
Ah, the subjectivity of "reality". Tennyson also spoke about white Bahamians and their financial behavior in the FNM. But he was slammed for doing this. Now Scott has done the same thing, yet now he is only stating "reality".
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:21 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
Face reality? Have you read the EU's most recent report on endemic and widespread corruption in European countries, corruption credited with the weakening of our global economy in addition to the economies of those individual countries? You keep throwing terms like intelligence and idiocy, yet you seem very racially jaundiced in your world view. As for China, which you are stuck on today, do you know that the nation's entire political and economic structure is built and sustained substantively on corruption? Do you know that global agencies state that China's corruption eclipses that of even the most rogue of African nations?
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:20 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
Your commentary today is indeed the Theatre of Non Sequitur. Continue to evade the actual subject matter here if you think that advances something worthy of advancement.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:14 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
> If you can't understand what African style governance is in 2016, given the corruption that has plagued Africa for decades, then you are a politically correct idiot, and I don't think that is what you are.
Corruption that has plagued Africa for decades? Indeed it has. If you believe that black-led countries have the monopoly on corruption (even while daring to speak about China as just one example) then you are a politically incorrect bigot, and I don't think that is what you are.
On Minnis ‘lacks support of white Bahamians’
Posted 24 February 2016, 2:12 p.m. Suggest removal