This is a complex question and deserves a complex answer. For the short term: 1) **Legalize Marijuana.** Legalizing marijuana would drain the street gangs of their revenue (and perhaps turn them into taxable business's). It would greatly reduce our black-market, who's transactions lead to a large portion of our crime. It would reduce unemployment, a HUGE contributor to crime (theft and armed robbery, which can end violently). It would free up the police to look for violent criminals and real crime. It would depopulate our crowded prisons, so that our violent offenders no longer need to be granted bail. It would give the government the tax revenue it needs to combat our criminal-crisis. No more gangs. No more petty criminals crowding jail. No more wasting money and police efforts on a losing battle.
2) **Reduce Unemployment** As mentioned previously, unemployment contributes directly to crime rates. When there are huge numbers of people unemployed, many are forced to resort to crime to get by. Government could have reduced unemployment with the massive construction projects we've seen done by Chinese workers. Employing foreign labour should only happen when local labour isn't an option. Massive projects like Bahamar, the Sports Stadium and the current hotel were great opportunities to reduce unemployment by negotiating Bahamian involvement with the investors/constructors.
3) **Policing Reform** Weather the RBPF is short staffed or low on supplies is unknown to me, but I rarely see enough of them where I should. Should either be the case, funds must be allocated to fix this. Our officers should be frequenting the high crime neighborhoods and doing routine checkups on those recently out of prison. That being said, they must not alienate themselves from these communities, but be apart of them. With our culture today, police have to put great effort into being seen as community leaders rather than oppressors.
8) "And what if the immigrants refused to speak to you in your language and used any means necessary to gain ownership of what you’ve worked for? Then what?" A: It is perfectly reasonable for someone to not speak my language, the majority's language or the official national language. That person is simply subject to the consequence of language barrier, but I have no right to be offended that we're different. And if they gain ownership of what I've worked for (I'm guessing you mean illegally) then they would be subject to the law - like anyone else.
My objective here isn't to make Nicole afraid to use a question mark, it's to correct the misconceptions and blatant falsehoods in this "article". Though some of her remarks and stances are valid, one cannot argue that it isn't "unchristian" to deport another human being. One cannot argue that the illegals are the primary issue in the nation, that would be education. and lastly, for god's sake, you cannot argue that after arresting, detaining and deporting a person to living hell - you "still love them". No love lies in those actions.
4) "Are we as a country, as a world, so accustomed to being slack and passive that to do what is obedient, to follow the laws of a land actually seems unfair? When did right become wrong?" A: As a matter of fact, I find that The Bahamas has become passive to enforcing its laws. this one, however, is not the priority - that would be repeat offenders (murderers, abusers, narcotics etc), corrupt officials and environmental laws - before all else. As a world is such an ignorant thing to say. for the over 200 sovereign countries, the 9 billion people - from Canada to North Korea - you want to summarize the global passiveness on law enforcement? and as an attempt to relate to the Bahamas? Get real. Lastly, right never became wrong - some laws (segregation, ethnic cleansing laws, bounties on Jewish people - deporting infants) are better off being neglected. That is, until they are changed. 5) "Should we not expect the people born of or patriotic to that country we just illegally bombarded to retaliate?" A: I skipped the idiotic, hyperbolic hypothetical for the former reasons listed. I would hope they don't "retaliate" as that means to return an attack - and physical violence isn't the answer to immigrants. 6) "If the will of the people is to be ignored, why even have borders and border enforcement? Why have laws? Why have government? Why have national sovereignty, if people from other countries should just flow freely in and out as they like, for whatever reason they feel is important?" A: Historically, the will of the people isn't always what's right, that's why we elect smarter people to make the tough decisions. That being said, our voices should be heard more than they are now and this is a corrupt democracy. but laws and government aren't there to hear the will of the people, nor are they there for immigration- they are structure to a system of order (which I'll give you is failing). National sovereignty has nothing to do with immigration- it's the independence of a country. Few of the immigrants come here for "whatever reason", they come out of desperation, from an awful place and nor do they "flow freely in and out". The journey here costs more than most can afford and has claimed many lives, you should be ashamed to make such comments. 7)"And once there, the incoming immigrants could just set up house on any tract of land, including land already owned by others ... maybe even land owned by the sympathisers. Then what?" A: The immigrants, like any other group of people who "set up house" on private property would be asked to leave, and later evicted by law. A homeless Bahamian could do the same thing, the same consequences would follow.
Nicole, To answer your questions: 1) "What is “unChristian” about enforcing our laws – finally? Christians shouldn't obey laws or follow regulations? What kind of Christianity is that?" A: The laws contradict the foundation of Christianity "love thy neighbor". Though you may deny it, shown by your last line "even if they do still love them." , sending someone - against their will - to a living hell is by no means an expression of love. To further burst your bubble, Jesus Christ broke laws - the table turning of the temple, the denial of roman religion, a failure to bow to the emperor. in fact - he was arrested, convicted and punished. So, in the example of the central figure of Christianity, laws can be broken for the greater good. and that, Nicole, is the type of Christianity that practice what it preaches. I don't necessarily believe that this is a viable answer, but it's what the bible says - so don't try and argue that these laws and actions are Christian. 2) "What is Christian about Haitians threatening Bahamians (on any level), illegally populating their country in droves, and then telling them it’s not enough? How can it be that anyone could expect this to be done to Bahamians and they not feel some type of way about it?" A: To ask that is to say what's Christian about going somewhere, taking the land and taking what's there?. And to be frank, that was the entire process of the Crusades, Christian expansion, New World exploration and Neocolonization. All done by devout Christians, who cited biblical justification and spread the gospel to it's inhabitants. So, therefore - this would seem very (historically) christian. Once again, I do not condone these, but you decided to throw the Christian ball, I'm just swinging the Bat of Historical Accuracy. And also, you're welcome to "feel some type of way" till the cows come home, but a good Christian would "turn the other cheek" and not deport the infants. 3) "how is the welfare of illegal immigrants and their offspring a more humanitarian cause than the welfare of legal citizens of a country and their offspring? Shouldn’t a country get to decide priority for itself? Who is protecting the interest of the legal Bahamian living legally in the Bahamas?" A: The welfare of these people is not a more humanitarian cause, it's completely equal - and that's what you fail to see. we have no more or less rights than them. Bahamians are not at a higher or lower priority level. The fact is, however, that they come from a place with double the mortality rate and a fraction of the opportunity. A country putting itself before others (deciding priority for itself) is how Fascism works, and though an effective system, it's questionable morals lead me to believe it's not the answer. And lastly, the Bahamian Legal system, the courts, their judges, the RBPF, the defense force, the Bahamian parliament, your very own MP, websites like this, your community and you are protecting your interests.
1) A jackhammer doesn't hit nails, it destroys stone and concrete. 2) Are you arguing that the people that are here illegally don't have rights in this country? That sounds like a violation of basic human rights - to not treat one equally because they're here illegally. 3) Do they not belong here because they didn't file paper and get the stamp? or do they "not belong here" because of their nationality, because it would seem you are preaching bigotry. 4) It's not an "opportunity" to leave. Some came here out of desperation to escape a living hell, and you want them to willingly "leave", and go back to their death sentences? for what reason? because you can't share?
1) They're not illegals, they're people that are here illegally. They are people. 2) The 2.2 million that is lost to immigrants (at most) is nothing in comparison to the funds that are "misplaced" by government or the repairs from abuse of government property (like BEC generators). 3) The Haitian government makes $0 off of the Haitians here illegally. They are not running a "lucrative business", they see 0 profit, nothing. That idea is absurd. If your argument is for the welfare of the Bahamian economy, don't start by deporting the laboring class that does the work few will, start with the corrupt individuals higher up and work your way down.
Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
Bahamians, Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
Bahamians, Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
Bahamians, Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
Revolutionary says...
This is a complex question and deserves a complex answer.
For the short term:
1) **Legalize Marijuana.**
Legalizing marijuana would drain the street gangs of their revenue (and perhaps turn them into taxable business's). It would greatly reduce our black-market, who's transactions lead to a large portion of our crime. It would reduce unemployment, a HUGE contributor to crime (theft and armed robbery, which can end violently). It would free up the police to look for violent criminals and real crime. It would depopulate our crowded prisons, so that our violent offenders no longer need to be granted bail. It would give the government the tax revenue it needs to combat our criminal-crisis. No more gangs. No more petty criminals crowding jail. No more wasting money and police efforts on a losing battle.
2) **Reduce Unemployment**
As mentioned previously, unemployment contributes directly to crime rates. When there are huge numbers of people unemployed, many are forced to resort to crime to get by. Government could have reduced unemployment with the massive construction projects we've seen done by Chinese workers. Employing foreign labour should only happen when local labour isn't an option. Massive projects like Bahamar, the Sports Stadium and the current hotel were great opportunities to reduce unemployment by negotiating Bahamian involvement with the investors/constructors.
3) **Policing Reform**
Weather the RBPF is short staffed or low on supplies is unknown to me, but I rarely see enough of them where I should. Should either be the case, funds must be allocated to fix this. Our officers should be frequenting the high crime neighborhoods and doing routine checkups on those recently out of prison. That being said, they must not alienate themselves from these communities, but be apart of them. With our culture today, police have to put great effort into being seen as community leaders rather than oppressors.
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Revolutionary says...
8) "And what if the immigrants refused to speak to you in your language and used any means necessary to gain ownership of what you’ve worked for? Then what?"
A: It is perfectly reasonable for someone to not speak my language, the majority's language or the official national language. That person is simply subject to the consequence of language barrier, but I have no right to be offended that we're different. And if they gain ownership of what I've worked for (I'm guessing you mean illegally) then they would be subject to the law - like anyone else.
My objective here isn't to make Nicole afraid to use a question mark, it's to correct the misconceptions and blatant falsehoods in this "article". Though some of her remarks and stances are valid, one cannot argue that it isn't "unchristian" to deport another human being. One cannot argue that the illegals are the primary issue in the nation, that would be education. and lastly, for god's sake, you cannot argue that after arresting, detaining and deporting a person to living hell - you "still love them". No love lies in those actions.
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Revolutionary says...
4) "Are we as a country, as a world, so accustomed to being slack and passive that to do what is obedient, to follow the laws of a land actually seems unfair? When did right become wrong?"
A: As a matter of fact, I find that The Bahamas has become passive to enforcing its laws. this one, however, is not the priority - that would be repeat offenders (murderers, abusers, narcotics etc), corrupt officials and environmental laws - before all else. As a world is such an ignorant thing to say. for the over 200 sovereign countries, the 9 billion people - from Canada to North Korea - you want to summarize the global passiveness on law enforcement? and as an attempt to relate to the Bahamas? Get real. Lastly, right never became wrong - some laws (segregation, ethnic cleansing laws, bounties on Jewish people - deporting infants) are better off being neglected. That is, until they are changed.
5) "Should we not expect the people born of or patriotic to that country we just illegally bombarded to retaliate?"
A: I skipped the idiotic, hyperbolic hypothetical for the former reasons listed. I would hope they don't "retaliate" as that means to return an attack - and physical violence isn't the answer to immigrants.
6) "If the will of the people is to be ignored, why even have borders and border enforcement? Why have laws? Why have government? Why have national sovereignty, if people from other countries should just flow freely in and out as they like, for whatever reason they feel is important?"
A: Historically, the will of the people isn't always what's right, that's why we elect smarter people to make the tough decisions. That being said, our voices should be heard more than they are now and this is a corrupt democracy. but laws and government aren't there to hear the will of the people, nor are they there for immigration- they are structure to a system of order (which I'll give you is failing). National sovereignty has nothing to do with immigration- it's the independence of a country. Few of the immigrants come here for "whatever reason", they come out of desperation, from an awful place and nor do they "flow freely in and out". The journey here costs more than most can afford and has claimed many lives, you should be ashamed to make such comments.
7)"And once there, the incoming immigrants could just set up house on any tract of land, including land already owned by others ... maybe even land owned by the sympathisers. Then what?"
A: The immigrants, like any other group of people who "set up house" on private property would be asked to leave, and later evicted by law. A homeless Bahamian could do the same thing, the same consequences would follow.
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Revolutionary says...
Nicole,
To answer your questions:
1) "What is “unChristian” about enforcing our laws – finally? Christians shouldn't obey laws or follow regulations? What kind of Christianity is that?"
A: The laws contradict the foundation of Christianity "love thy neighbor". Though you may deny it, shown by your last line "even if they do still love them." , sending someone - against their will - to a living hell is by no means an expression of love. To further burst your bubble, Jesus Christ broke laws - the table turning of the temple, the denial of roman religion, a failure to bow to the emperor. in fact - he was arrested, convicted and punished. So, in the example of the central figure of Christianity, laws can be broken for the greater good. and that, Nicole, is the type of Christianity that practice what it preaches. I don't necessarily believe that this is a viable answer, but it's what the bible says - so don't try and argue that these laws and actions are Christian.
2) "What is Christian about Haitians threatening Bahamians (on any level), illegally populating their country in droves, and then telling them it’s not enough? How can it be that anyone could expect this to be done to Bahamians and they not feel some type of way about it?"
A: To ask that is to say what's Christian about going somewhere, taking the land and taking what's there?. And to be frank, that was the entire process of the Crusades, Christian expansion, New World exploration and Neocolonization. All done by devout Christians, who cited biblical justification and spread the gospel to it's inhabitants. So, therefore - this would seem very (historically) christian. Once again, I do not condone these, but you decided to throw the Christian ball, I'm just swinging the Bat of Historical Accuracy. And also, you're welcome to "feel some type of way" till the cows come home, but a good Christian would "turn the other cheek" and not deport the infants.
3) "how is the welfare of illegal immigrants and their offspring a more humanitarian cause than the welfare of legal citizens of a country and their offspring? Shouldn’t a country get to decide priority for itself? Who is protecting the interest of the legal Bahamian living legally in the Bahamas?"
A: The welfare of these people is not a more humanitarian cause, it's completely equal - and that's what you fail to see. we have no more or less rights than them. Bahamians are not at a higher or lower priority level. The fact is, however, that they come from a place with double the mortality rate and a fraction of the opportunity. A country putting itself before others (deciding priority for itself) is how Fascism works, and though an effective system, it's questionable morals lead me to believe it's not the answer. And lastly, the Bahamian Legal system, the courts, their judges, the RBPF, the defense force, the Bahamian parliament, your very own MP, websites like this, your community and you are protecting your interests.
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Revolutionary says...
1) A jackhammer doesn't hit nails, it destroys stone and concrete.
2) Are you arguing that the people that are here illegally don't have rights in this country? That sounds like a violation of basic human rights - to not treat one equally because they're here illegally.
3) Do they not belong here because they didn't file paper and get the stamp? or do they "not belong here" because of their nationality, because it would seem you are preaching bigotry.
4) It's not an "opportunity" to leave. Some came here out of desperation to escape a living hell, and you want them to willingly "leave", and go back to their death sentences? for what reason? because you can't share?
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Revolutionary says...
1) They're not illegals, they're people that are here illegally. They are people.
2) The 2.2 million that is lost to immigrants (at most) is nothing in comparison to the funds that are "misplaced" by government or the repairs from abuse of government property (like BEC generators).
3) The Haitian government makes $0 off of the Haitians here illegally. They are not running a "lucrative business", they see 0 profit, nothing. That idea is absurd.
If your argument is for the welfare of the Bahamian economy, don't start by deporting the laboring class that does the work few will, start with the corrupt individuals higher up and work your way down.
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Revolutionary says...
Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
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Bahamians, Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
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Bahamians, Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
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Bahamians, Our country is sick with corruption. The blame climbs up the ladder from person to minister to prime minister, but to find the true culprit, you need only look in a mirror. We know what is happening, yet we do nothing. Some feel they are alone, they have none to face this government with them. Most are scared - scared that if they raise their voice, they will be detained; political power will be exerted on them. If you are fine with what you see around you, what you see happening to this country, stay home the 26th. But, if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, I ask that you join us on July 26th outside of Parliament for a call for action, for accountability and for justice.
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