Ahh, good sir, but you miss the salient point. That’s a total spend. In a development that, just as in Princess Cays, controls the amount of money that gets into Eleuthera’s economy. That money is spent onDisney controlled kiosks, Disney owned land. And of course doesn’t account for the loss of revenue from tourists heading “up” south to behold Lighthouse Point for themselves (as I have) or who spend money on tours to the area (as 8 have) to access this most beautiful area in all its quiet majesty. Thank you for being engaged. I truly hope Bahamians make the right choice for them, and no one else, including me.
Thank you for that affirmation. I really am impressed with One Eleuthera’s vision for the area. They have been meeting with the public and with officials to promote their idea of sustainable development in balance with the natural gifts this area is blessed with. Their believe a National park designation, after purchasing the privately held part of the land at the point will allow them to develop it correctly. Full disclosure, I am not connected with One Eleuthera in any direct way, but admire what they have to say as an alternative to Disney.
Hello Clamshell! Please allow me to correct a few factual errors for you. Started visiting 7 to 8 years ago. Have been there 4 times, spending between 10 days and two week each time. Last time was 3 years ago, not 7. Will be there again in 2019, and am pleased about that. You are correct regarding the land purchase though. That you are! I wanted to and was determined to. Full disclosure is that my wife simply wasn’t comfortable with owning foreign property, but not for lack of trying on my part. Yes I do live in western Canada, and I really hope I didn’t come across as pretending to be an expert. I’m not sure about what you might refer to though. My letter was aimed at the Bahamians who will be most affected by this development, and I wanted to tell them my experience. So I guess in regards to my own personal experience, I could be considered an expert. And no one else can tell me different in this regard. As for Disney’s plans versus One Eleuthera’s proposal for this area, I’m no expert either, but I’m reading a lot of the information and doing my best to educate myself on the pros and cons. How about you? Or is your best shot a little slag that you hurl from time to time? I always welcome debate on a topic if the debaters keep the topic in mind and not an attempt to discount opinions based on personal qualifications.
I totally agree with you, OldFort2012. Well almost totally. I agree that local Bahamians are the ones to decide their future. I was simply stating my viewpoint along with my experience my first visit in 2011. Where we diverge is in the how much I spend supporting local business and how much that is in relation to revenue generated by Disney Cruise Lines for locals. The hard facts are in 2017 your own Minister of Tourism (May I assume you are Bahamian?) admitted that cruise lines represented 75% of the visitors to the Bahamas, but only accounted for 11% of the tourist dollars spent. Cruise ship passengers spent on average $70 per entire visit to a port of call, while land based visitors spent $1200. The One Eleuthera proposal for the same area has plans that include just as many jobs, Bahamian control, and sustainable, secure growth. Yes, I may be miles away, but I’m not near sighted. I have friends that work in South Eleuthera and I know from them it’s a struggle. I choose to believe them when they say, “there’s a better way than Disney’s way”. I appreciate your comment, because I believe it shows concern, not apathy.
My online account says Soapstop, but I assure you I am that same “Mr. Carson” :) and I can attest that the pleasure was and is all mine. The Bahamas is a beautiful country with joyous and gracious people and I hope all can benefit from a healthy, sustainable business model, not the fetid proposal Disney is pedaling to the government.
I so agree! Selling his birthright was Esau’s fate and I prey the government and people of the Bahamas do not follow suit. Disney must not have their way!
Soapstop says...
I’m not sure what you mean by this, but my inclination is to reject what you may be inferring.
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 11:23 p.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
Ahh, good sir, but you miss the salient point. That’s a total spend. In a development that, just as in Princess Cays, controls the amount of money that gets into Eleuthera’s economy. That money is spent onDisney controlled kiosks, Disney owned land. And of course doesn’t account for the loss of revenue from tourists heading “up” south to behold Lighthouse Point for themselves (as I have) or who spend money on tours to the area (as 8 have) to access this most beautiful area in all its quiet majesty. Thank you for being engaged. I truly hope Bahamians make the right choice for them, and no one else, including me.
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 8:39 p.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
Thank you for that affirmation. I really am impressed with One Eleuthera’s vision for the area. They have been meeting with the public and with officials to promote their idea of sustainable development in balance with the natural gifts this area is blessed with. Their believe a National park designation, after purchasing the privately held part of the land at the point will allow them to develop it correctly. Full disclosure, I am not connected with One Eleuthera in any direct way, but admire what they have to say as an alternative to Disney.
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 7:21 p.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
Hello Clamshell! Please allow me to correct a few factual errors for you. Started visiting 7 to 8 years ago. Have been there 4 times, spending between 10 days and two week each time. Last time was 3 years ago, not 7. Will be there again in 2019, and am pleased about that. You are correct regarding the land purchase though. That you are! I wanted to and was determined to. Full disclosure is that my wife simply wasn’t comfortable with owning foreign property, but not for lack of trying on my part. Yes I do live in western Canada, and I really hope I didn’t come across as pretending to be an expert. I’m not sure about what you might refer to though. My letter was aimed at the Bahamians who will be most affected by this development, and I wanted to tell them my experience. So I guess in regards to my own personal experience, I could be considered an expert. And no one else can tell me different in this regard. As for Disney’s plans versus One Eleuthera’s proposal for this area, I’m no expert either, but I’m reading a lot of the information and doing my best to educate myself on the pros and cons. How about you? Or is your best shot a little slag that you hurl from time to time? I always welcome debate on a topic if the debaters keep the topic in mind and not an attempt to discount opinions based on personal qualifications.
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 7:15 p.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
I totally agree with you, OldFort2012. Well almost totally. I agree that local Bahamians are the ones to decide their future. I was simply stating my viewpoint along with my experience my first visit in 2011. Where we diverge is in the how much I spend supporting local business and how much that is in relation to revenue generated by Disney Cruise Lines for locals. The hard facts are in 2017 your own Minister of Tourism (May I assume you are Bahamian?) admitted that cruise lines represented 75% of the visitors to the Bahamas, but only accounted for 11% of the tourist dollars spent. Cruise ship passengers spent on average $70 per entire visit to a port of call, while land based visitors spent $1200. The One Eleuthera proposal for the same area has plans that include just as many jobs, Bahamian control, and sustainable, secure growth. Yes, I may be miles away, but I’m not near sighted. I have friends that work in South Eleuthera and I know from them it’s a struggle. I choose to believe them when they say, “there’s a better way than Disney’s way”. I appreciate your comment, because I believe it shows concern, not apathy.
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 6:57 p.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
My online account says Soapstop, but I assure you I am that same “Mr. Carson” :) and I can attest that the pleasure was and is all mine. The Bahamas is a beautiful country with joyous and gracious people and I hope all can benefit from a healthy, sustainable business model, not the fetid proposal Disney is pedaling to the government.
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 2:18 a.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
I so agree! Selling his birthright was Esau’s fate and I prey the government and people of the Bahamas do not follow suit. Disney must not have their way!
On INSIGHT: We come here for the real thing, not a plastic, vomitous Disney recreation
Posted 4 September 2018, 2:09 a.m. Suggest removal
Soapstop says...
Excellent coverage, excellent alternative plan instead of Disney’s “vision”!!
On Calls for Lighthouse Point to be protected from commercial development
Posted 1 September 2018, 12:11 p.m. Suggest removal