Don't name call, but I agree the issue is confusing. I still don't understand how Nygard and Bacon are involved. If Clifton is a heritage site for Bahamians and the government is to protect this site for future generations whats all the fuss? Why is there private interest at all in any of this? But like I said earlier it always seems to be the same players in these things. Then the BNT seems to compromised because these people donate to their coffers. Its all crazy and the government is allowing it to spiral out of control. Just deal with it. That's what we hired you to do.

Notice its always the same people in problems. Fred Smith always poking his nose in people business and Koed Smith is a jungaliss. So there ya go, Smith Smith and Co. Two media ho%&$. One vision.

Seriously? If Bethell is negotiating for the government then I'm really disappointed in the PLP. A man most 90 they bring back. Its not so much his age that bothers me though. Its that people from a bygone era don't seem to know when to train younger Bahamians and to retire gracefully. We talk about foreigners not training Bahamians, but Bahamians with experience and skill don't want to train our younger generation. Anyhow another day for that. CC in short whats deal with Clifton? I haven't been following this story over the weeks.

Crazy how both sides have let this thing get out of control. I'm still not clear on the issue though. Can some kindly explain? And how did the Bacon guy and Nygard get involved? Its all confusing really.

Noted, and you are correct he was a Marxist. But it cannot be denied that even within Marxist theory there are lessons to be learned. One of the issues most people who are readers of political theory is we try to demonize one theory and praise the other. I'm not suggesting that Fanon was correct in all of his theories but I can appreciate where he' coming and within context.

Futhermore no one is suggesting that Atlantis has not made a valuable contribution to our economy. But are you suggesting that the collective contribution of Haitians, or Haitian-Bahamians is not more or equal in value to Atlantis? As far as I'm concerned Haitians have made invaluable contribution to our country and economy. My concern is the contrast in treatment of an illegal from Haiti vs an illegal such as the described in this article. So my point is there needs to be fair treatment across the board. I repeat. Bahamians have a really messed up way of thinking.

@ banker. I agree with diversification, but we need to be sensible with how we judge our own. The prevailing attitude that Bahamians are stupid, uncultured and unprofessional is really demoralizing to the psyche of a people. If we keep saying it people will begin believing it.

I understand your frustration. Bahamians are so afraid to be who we are and we always find ourselves pandering to tourist. I really don't see what the big shock is about. We mull and ruminate over these things too much in the Bahamas. The right way, the wrong way blah, blah blah. Funny, I don't hear the same outrage when Cubans and Haitians are being packed in a bus far away from the prisitine pools of Atlantis. Oh but I forgot, we view them as people without skills or relevance. Bahamians are truly mentally screwed up. You should have a read of France Fanon. He clearly explains how the tourist industry can erode the national drive and focus of a country. We always pander to the tourist and can never give ourselves credit for anything. What a messed up commentary in our 40th year as a nation.

Ah, if you read the second paragraph you'd note that I said as much. With redundancy seeming to be the order of the day I will repeat. They should have the facts before carrying out such an exercise. Happy?

Talk is cheap. They agreed to many things the last time and in the end it became politics as usual. I say revoke them all and make it a true bus service. Streamline the service with proper bus colours and some sense of uniformity. Implement proper schedules and routes and lets have sensible bus stops and stations. Which modern city you know has a bus system where every bus colour is different, the driver stops where he sees fit (including at the gas pumps with passengers on board), and we the passengers and fellow commuters have the displeasure of hearing the drivers favourite playlist?

Please spare us the outrage. Bahamians get embarrassed by the wrong things. This happens all the time in the US and I've even seen it while working in the Cayman Islands. ICE in the US come on the work place pack illegals up and detain them without warning. They don't care what you do, who you are or where you come from. In the Cayman Islands the immigration there is quite efficient and can care less where you come from. If you work there illegally then they come for you and that's without warning.

Now I would agree that the Immigration Dept. Should have the facts before performing such and exercise. But personally, I'm not all ashamed when these officers do their job. We too love to think about what tourist would think. The fact is, the same tourists that we think are judging us are probably praising us for showing that we are a country with some law and order.