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TheDominican says...

Haiti: Procedures for obtaining citizenship > > http://tinyurl.com/ndzdwqv
from: unchr (Refugee Agency)

The Haitian Constitution of 1987 is the only legislation governing the issue of Haitian
nationality (Haiti 19 Jan. 2007; Citizenship Laws of the World 2001). Under the constitution,
Haitian nationality can be obtained by descent or naturalization (Citizenship Laws of the World 2001). Simply being born in Haiti does not automatically confer Haitian citizenship (ibid.). Articles 11 and 12 of the 1987 constitution state, respectively, that [translation] "any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian nationality at the time of birth" (Haiti Mar. 1987, Art. 11), and that [translation] "Haitian nationality may be acquired by naturalization" (ibid. Mar. 1987, Art. 12) when the person requesting it has resided in Haiti for five years (ibid., Art. 12.1).

TheDominican says...

It’s good to know that our nationality is not for sale and even less for 'haitians', due to historical factors. Including, but not limited to, a brutal "occupation" that lasted 22 years (1822-1844). "el deguello de moca" ( The MOCA Beheading s) where 40 children were beheaded in front of the alter because haitians believe the Church was part of their enslavement. Also, the over 500 Civilians who consequently were locked inside the same church and then set ablaze while still alive with them inside. And their "Manifest Destiny", a self-proclaimed "Providence", which they believe that the entire island is "One and Indivisible" and it belongs to them. Just quoting a clergymen in a speech in 1951 witnessed by a Dominican Consulate person, during the celebration of the Haitian Independence, makes their intent even more obvious; “The Haitian people must forcefully find our vital space”. Said father Angenor, Secretary to the Archbishop in Haiti.
Know that since 1929 to date, it has been the position of all competent constitutional bodies that to acquire the Dominican nationality there are "4" different ways. hear it well, "4"!

terms you need to know:
- jus sanguinis: Latin; Right of Blood
- jus solis: Latin; Right of the Soil

#1.-- jus sanguinis: For the children born of father and mother who are "Dominicans".

#2.-- jus solis (restricted): For the ones born in the territory and are the children of foreigners with "LEGAL residence". hear it well, "legal"!

#3.-- By marrying a Dominican.

#4.-- By Naturalization "according to the law".

Only 30 of the world's 195 countries follow jus solis (Latin: right of the soil). Oh and guess what, Haiti does not follow jus solis either! 160 countries in the world do not, including HAITI. So your argument is MOOT!
Haiti denies citizenship by birth to people who are not of Haitian blood (Jus sanguinis; Latin: right of blood). So I guess shame on Haiti too, right? If you are a foreigner on haitian soil (although legal; jus solis), Haiti denies the citizenship of your children. Saying NO, NO, NO, like a 5 year would get you nowhere in the jurisprudence process.
to conclude, dominican republic is a ‘republic’, a ‘nation of laws’. not a faiiled-state like our neighbors to the west. so, read and educate yourself, before giving your uninformed opinions.

TheDominican says...

Unlike Haiti, the DR is a multicultural, multiracial country. Even before our first independence—from Spain—in 1821, we were first in the Americas to host a community of maroons running away from slavery in French St Domingue. Well before the US, we received hundreds of Germans of Jewish descent. More recently, thousands of Haitians came to our hospitals after the earthquake of 2010 and stayed on to recover in Dominican homes.

Just like Tayllerand wrote about treason being a matter of dates, so are atrocities in Hispaniola. Unlike Mandela, who chose reconciliation to avoid the economy of the graveyard, Haiti chose upon independence to destroy its colonial production, redistribute land in micro-sized lots, practice slash and burn agriculture and chop down 98% of its forest coverage. So now they have no farms of adequate size, no fertile lands, no trees and of course no rural jobs.

No mention is made about what happened to the white or mulatto population during and after their independence; what happened to the DR population during the many Haitian invasions of the 19th Century, before and after our second independence—from Haiti—in 1844. No mention is made, either, of the fact that the DR has never invaded Haiti, before, during or after our third independence—again from Spain—in 1865.

There is no need to refer to the over 30,000 Haitians who died as recently as the government of "Papa Doc" Duvalier, whose policy of “negritude” did so much to expel most educated Haitians in the 1950s and 1960s to countries such as Senegal, Canada, France or the US.

The unacceptable international campaign against the DR fails to recognize that—excluding Haiti—the DR generates more jobs for Haitians than the entire rest of the Caribbean. This is so, in spite of the fact that Haiti signed the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas in 2003, which provides for free movement of skilled and professional personnel as well as for contract workers on a seasonal or project basis for all members of caricom.

The DR is fully attached to the rule of law, respect for human rights and complies with all its international treaty obligations. It is a country with a longstanding tradition of nondiscriminatory access to public services.

It is in DR hospitals where Haitians are giving birth to their babies—1 out of every 5 children born—given the fact that the majority of hospitals in Haiti are private. About 18% of the health budget covers the needs of Haitians seeking services in our hospitals.

It is in DR schools that Haitians are educating their children—2 out of every 5 children in many of our public schools—given the fact that the majority of schools in Haiti are private. Thousands attend our universities, paying local rates. 15,000 of those are able to study with full scholarships from the DR government.

TheDominican says...

Haitians are not stateless: Haitian Constitution March 29, 1987

article 11:
"Any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian
nationality at the time of birth."
if haiti refuses to document its nationals they are the ones creating the statelessness

TheDominican says...

Haitians are not stateless: Haitian Constitution March 29, 1987

article 11:
"Any person born of a Haitian father or Haitian mother who are themselves native-born Haitians and have never renounced their nationality possesses Haitian
nationality at the time of birth."
if haiti refuses to document its nationals they are the ones creating the statelessness

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Posted 12 November 2014, 1:24 p.m. Suggest removal