The number of citizens being murdered by the state is alarming. This is a phenomena that happens in Haiti and Jamaica and comes under scrutiny by human rights groups. This victim clearly is not a saint, however running away from the police should not be an automatic death sentence. At the same time the police have to make split second decisions in very difficult circumstances.
The Bahamas police are going down a road that Jamaica and Haiti police forces have gone down. We all know that road is a dangerous one. Killing someone because of a hunch or suspicion can’t be right. Will this be classified after years of investigation as an “ unlawful “ killing and the reservist will continue as if nothing happened because the commissioner of police says there’s no protocol to address it by law.
Aha, a valid point. So that needs to be looked at as well. That’s just as bad as the scenario for a married female. The confusion has its genesis that the constitution gives different values to male and female. And then further complicates the issue by reversing the roles of power between an unmarried male and unmarried female. Well mudda sic. I think that’s how the phrase goes. My wife uses all the time.
This is a response I agree with. I appreciate the fact that you at least read and gave a response that was civil. I do believe if the Lord tarries and we live long enough. This is an aspect of your constitution that will be given a challenge by future generations.
Shemer18 I think your phrase “ weak Bahamian female “ proves to me that we are as far as the East is from the West as far as how this discussion is going. I love the Bahamas and the people of the Bahamas. But I’m still convinced on a personal level that there’s something inherently wrong with a constitution that says a woman is less of a person than a male. I’m proud to say that my marriage of convenience is 2 decades plus, and I’m loving every moment of it, and will continue to as long as God continues to give me breath. As far your question as to which country I’m from. It’s a fellow Caricom state, and as I say we continue to live here. Just for the record I can’t be that weak if as a foreigner I was able to capture the Heart of my Bahamian queen from under the nose of all those “Super Strong” Bahamian males !!!!!
@ Schemer18 . I took your advice. As I stated earlier, I am currently living in the land of my birth along with my Bahamian worn wife. I apologize if I wasn’t clear on that. I agree again with you, the constitution of The Bahamas should not look to protect the rights of a foreigner over a native born Bahamian. That’s why I say again. How come in the 21st century in a western democratic Christian country a constitution regulates a person as having less fundamental rights than a male just because she was born female. I mean just yesterday was mother’s day. Isn’t it ironic that all of The Bahamian mothers that were rightfully celebrated by spouses and children yesterday, on reflection are relegated by the constitution to be less than a male. Nah, try and convince me that that’s normal and you will continue to fight for that view ? I’m not sure if you are a male, but if you are you were born to a female and I want you to reflect and think that your constitution gives her less rights than you her son. Think of it. If you are married your wife is less than you. If you were to have children a boy and a girl. Your constitution says your son is of more importance than your daughter. So you see it doesn’t affect the foreigners like me. It affects the Bahamians. Native born Bahamian. Last point. If a foreign male were to migrate to the Bahamas and acquire citizenship. Your constitution says that foreign born male has more funds rights than your Bahamian born mothers, wives, sisters and daughters. Think about it. That seems absolutely and fundamentally wrong.
Just to finish off, I opted not to come to the Bahamas, I couldn’t bring my wife to a country that relegated her to a second class citizen. I love and respect her too much. My daughter would not be told by any archaic law that she is less of a person because that’s the law of the land. That sort of standard is not what I expect in a modern western Christian country. I know that applies in other parts of the world where women are still considered as objects and property, and not as a helpmate to their husband. I love The Bahamas, We visit all the time but my wife will not be considered second class by no one. Not even from the land of her birth
So this will be an unpopular comment, ant I expect the responses to be vitriolic to it. Over 30 years ago I a non Bahamian male fell in love with an absolute angel who happens to be a Bahamian female. We were both attending college in North America. We eventually got married and she came to live with me in my country of origin. Fast forward to 20 years later some opportunities came for me to look at options of migrating to The Bahamas to pick up some employment opportunities that were available. Started to do some research. To my shock and awe, I found out my Bahamian born wife can grant me her husband of many years any status to even come and settle. Not only that our kids wouldn’t even have that right. They would have to apply for some sort of residency status. I thought it was an error. I was then told if I were the Bahamian as the male then I can grant status to her and our children would then have the right to apply for citizenship. How in the world can a constitution of a modern democratic Christian country, Say that a woman is a second class citizen and not entitled to the full rights of a male. The irony is not lost on me that your GG is a female, the wife of the late father of modern Bahamas. It’s funny that foreign male can migrate to the Bahamas and if eventually granted citizenship legally that the constitution of The Bahamas says he has more fundamental rights than the GG a native born Bahamian wife of the father of the modern Bahamas.
curious says...
The number of citizens being murdered by the state is alarming. This is a phenomena that happens in Haiti and Jamaica and comes under scrutiny by human rights groups. This victim clearly is not a saint, however running away from the police should not be an automatic death sentence. At the same time the police have to make split second decisions in very difficult circumstances.
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curious says...
The Bahamas police are going down a road that Jamaica and Haiti police forces have gone down. We all know that road is a dangerous one. Killing someone because of a hunch or suspicion can’t be right. Will this be classified after years of investigation as an “ unlawful “ killing and the reservist will continue as if nothing happened because the commissioner of police says there’s no protocol to address it by law.
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Aha, a valid point. So that needs to be looked at as well. That’s just as bad as the scenario for a married female. The confusion has its genesis that the constitution gives different values to male and female. And then further complicates the issue by reversing the roles of power between an unmarried male and unmarried female. Well mudda sic. I think that’s how the phrase goes. My wife uses all the time.
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curious says...
This is a response I agree with. I appreciate the fact that you at least read and gave a response that was civil. I do believe if the Lord tarries and we live long enough. This is an aspect of your constitution that will be given a challenge by future generations.
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curious says...
Shemer18 I think your phrase “ weak Bahamian female “ proves to me that we are as far as the East is from the West as far as how this discussion is going. I love the Bahamas and the people of the Bahamas. But I’m still convinced on a personal level that there’s something inherently wrong with a constitution that says a woman is less of a person than a male. I’m proud to say that my marriage of convenience is 2 decades plus, and I’m loving every moment of it, and will continue to as long as God continues to give me breath. As far your question as to which country I’m from. It’s a fellow Caricom state, and as I say we continue to live here. Just for the record I can’t be that weak if as a foreigner I was able to capture the Heart of my Bahamian queen from under the nose of all those “Super Strong” Bahamian males !!!!!
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@ Schemer18 . I took your advice. As I stated earlier, I am currently living in the land of my birth along with my Bahamian worn wife. I apologize if I wasn’t clear on that. I agree again with you, the constitution of The Bahamas should not look to protect the rights of a foreigner over a native born Bahamian. That’s why I say again. How come in the 21st century in a western democratic Christian country a constitution regulates a person as having less fundamental rights than a male just because she was born female. I mean just yesterday was mother’s day. Isn’t it ironic that all of The Bahamian mothers that were rightfully celebrated by spouses and children yesterday, on reflection are relegated by the constitution to be less than a male. Nah, try and convince me that that’s normal and you will continue to fight for that view ? I’m not sure if you are a male, but if you are you were born to a female and I want you to reflect and think that your constitution gives her less rights than you her son. Think of it. If you are married your wife is less than you. If you were to have children a boy and a girl. Your constitution says your son is of more importance than your daughter. So you see it doesn’t affect the foreigners like me. It affects the Bahamians. Native born Bahamian. Last point. If a foreign male were to migrate to the Bahamas and acquire citizenship. Your constitution says that foreign born male has more funds rights than your Bahamian born mothers, wives, sisters and daughters. Think about it. That seems absolutely and fundamentally wrong.
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curious says...
Just to finish off, I opted not to come to the Bahamas, I couldn’t bring my wife to a country that relegated her to a second class citizen. I love and respect her too much. My daughter would not be told by any archaic law that she is less of a person because that’s the law of the land. That sort of standard is not what I expect in a modern western Christian country. I know that applies in other parts of the world where women are still considered as objects and property, and not as a helpmate to their husband. I love The Bahamas, We visit all the time but my wife will not be considered second class by no one. Not even from the land of her birth
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So this will be an unpopular comment, ant I expect the responses to be vitriolic to it. Over 30 years ago I a non Bahamian male fell in love with an absolute angel who happens to be a Bahamian female. We were both attending college in North America. We eventually got married and she came to live with me in my country of origin. Fast forward to 20 years later some opportunities came for me to look at options of migrating to The Bahamas to pick up some employment opportunities that were available. Started to do some research. To my shock and awe, I found out my Bahamian born wife can grant me her husband of many years any status to even come and settle. Not only that our kids wouldn’t even have that right. They would have to apply for some sort of residency status. I thought it was an error. I was then told if I were the Bahamian as the male then I can grant status to her and our children would then have the right to apply for citizenship. How in the world can a constitution of a modern democratic Christian country, Say that a woman is a second class citizen and not entitled to the full rights of a male. The irony is not lost on me that your GG is a female, the wife of the late father of modern Bahamas. It’s funny that foreign male can migrate to the Bahamas and if eventually granted citizenship legally that the constitution of The Bahamas says he has more fundamental rights than the GG a native born Bahamian wife of the father of the modern Bahamas.
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