Take for example the U.S yes you can buy virtually any gun but hey if you want to legally carry that hand gun with you just about every where you go, You have to first pass a Concealed Carry Course to understand the when, hows and what laws apply to the use of such an instrument. Also note that in states where they can conceal carry the muggings and crime rates are drastically lower than that of states that do not permit Civilians to conceal carry. i.e New York.
Another point is that generally speaking and you can check our statistics here in the Bahamas we don't kill people with our licensed shotguns and rifles despite the fact that many like myself carry them just bout everywhere we go, people that have licensed firearms don't go around just shooting for fun and flying off the handle because they had a fender bender and then it becomes a wild west scene...No in fact after you have already gone through all the red tape and proper channels to attain these weapons you then understand that it is for drastic times that you produce your firearm for self defense otherwise that $1000+ you already spent on this gun, will be confiscated and now destroyed by they new "gun masher" down at ISD(Internal Security Division).
Truth is stopping us as law abiding citizens from having handguns sure as hell aint stopping the criminals from having them. You can never "Control" something you prohibit, you only end up creating a black Market for it. So if we dont get over this "gun-phobia" our society will never get any better. I am NOT an officer and never was, im just a citizen that prefers not to be easy prey for the predators that lurk in the shadows of our streets and business places I believe in a proactive approach to addressing security and not the reactionary one that our Beloved Govt so likes to take. Anyway i will end by saying this "If guns are Outlawed then only outlaws will have guns".
To piggy back on what Mr.Valcin is saying I agree more than 100% with Civilians owning handguns, but like Keith Bell said "Not for everyone" which would exclude civilians with criminal, or mental illness records and those that cannot be trained to properly use the "said firearm". We must as a country move away from this ignorant narrow minded outlook on Guns and realize that guns are not evil and once issued to responsible and trained owners, are an asset to our society. I personally own guns and i have trained with every one of them on a professional level to ensure that I and my family are safe as i can possibly make them around me. Heck I even went to the extent of training with multiple handguns that I know our law enforcement use here(Glock17,Sig 226,M9 Berettas) just in case the day ever comes when i can own one. The reason crime is so high and robberies happen at the drop of a hat is because the mindset of the criminal is this "im the only one with a gun and these people are just easy targets" whereas if some of the population owned handguns and the criminals knew it their whole psychology changes, they will be more hesitant to rush up in a grocery store and rob it because they wouldn't know who has a gun from who doesn't inside the store. Predators prey on the weak and thats what criminals are, predators looking for a quick meal.
reclusev22 says...
......Continuation
Take for example the U.S yes you can buy virtually any gun but hey if you want to legally carry that hand gun with you just about every where you go, You have to first pass a Concealed Carry Course to understand the when, hows and what laws apply to the use of such an instrument. Also note that in states where they can conceal carry the muggings and crime rates are drastically lower than that of states that do not permit Civilians to conceal carry. i.e New York.
Another point is that generally speaking and you can check our statistics here in the Bahamas we don't kill people with our licensed shotguns and rifles despite the fact that many like myself carry them just bout everywhere we go, people that have licensed firearms don't go around just shooting for fun and flying off the handle because they had a fender bender and then it becomes a wild west scene...No in fact after you have already gone through all the red tape and proper channels to attain these weapons you then understand that it is for drastic times that you produce your firearm for self defense otherwise that $1000+ you already spent on this gun, will be confiscated and now destroyed by they new "gun masher" down at ISD(Internal Security Division).
Truth is stopping us as law abiding citizens from having handguns sure as hell aint stopping the criminals from having them. You can never "Control" something you prohibit, you only end up creating a black Market for it. So if we dont get over this "gun-phobia" our society will never get any better. I am NOT an officer and never was, im just a citizen that prefers not to be easy prey for the predators that lurk in the shadows of our streets and business places I believe in a proactive approach to addressing security and not the reactionary one that our Beloved Govt so likes to take. Anyway i will end by saying this "If guns are Outlawed then only outlaws will have guns".
On Your say: Ministers should not carry guns
Posted 17 June 2012, 1:38 p.m. Suggest removal
reclusev22 says...
To piggy back on what Mr.Valcin is saying I agree more than 100% with Civilians owning handguns, but like Keith Bell said "Not for everyone" which would exclude civilians with criminal, or mental illness records and those that cannot be trained to properly use the "said firearm". We must as a country move away from this ignorant narrow minded outlook on Guns and realize that guns are not evil and once issued to responsible and trained owners, are an asset to our society. I personally own guns and i have trained with every one of them on a professional level to ensure that I and my family are safe as i can possibly make them around me. Heck I even went to the extent of training with multiple handguns that I know our law enforcement use here(Glock17,Sig 226,M9 Berettas) just in case the day ever comes when i can own one.
The reason crime is so high and robberies happen at the drop of a hat is because the mindset of the criminal is this "im the only one with a gun and these people are just easy targets" whereas if some of the population owned handguns and the criminals knew it their whole psychology changes, they will be more hesitant to rush up in a grocery store and rob it because they wouldn't know who has a gun from who doesn't inside the store. Predators prey on the weak and thats what criminals are, predators looking for a quick meal.
to be continued......
On Your say: Ministers should not carry guns
Posted 17 June 2012, 1:37 p.m. Suggest removal