Tragic...the reality is vaccine protection is sadly fleeting...
"Vaccine effectiveness of BNT162b2 against infection waned progressively from 92% .....and from day 211 and onwards no effectiveness could be detected"
"effectiveness of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 was generally lower and waned faster, with no effectiveness detected from day 121 and onwards"
LOL Its a 'caged wolf' for the vast majority of society - ie for most ~85% that are infected its a case of a mild headache, mild cough - or might not even know they have it...but media and politics just see all the crap you just mentioned...they leave out those 'complications' mostly happen in older, 'sick' or fat people...closing gyms, locking people in doors, keeping people in fear and keeping kids out of schools is just simply undermining society..
Can we buy like a large chunk of the USA or Canada just for back up in case our country sinks in a couple decades? I hear thats what Maldives and others are doing...
"avicenna put two lambs in separate cages. Lambs were the same age and the same weight, and fed with the same food. All conditions were equal. However, at the same time, there was a wolf in the third cage. Only one lamb could see the wolf but not the other lamb.
Months later, the lamb who saw the wolf was cranky, restless, poorly developing, and losing weight. The lamb died whilst the other lamb remained healthy. Although the wolf did nothing to the lamb next to it, the fear and stress that lamb lived in killed it prematurely, while the other lamb that did not see the wolf, was peaceful and developed well with a healthy weight gain."
I guess we're all sheep, though just some of us just see caged wolfs...
Sooner we all stop focusing on COVID the better...focus on wholistic health as a metric societal wellbeing please...COVID is a wolf for the elderly, the fat and the immune compromised - they need protection yes as sad as that is, but the rest of us need to move on.. Children need to go to school, business need to have the confidence in government to open freely, hug grandma just take a test before hand...We're not going to vaccinate or mask ourselves out of this..but low cost widely available testing for certain situations makes complete sense..
Oh bobby boy - calling you out dude - here are about 60 studies on Ivermectin...HCQ I'm not on that ship. That said the current evidence base concerning the use of ivermectin in the early treatment of covid continues to be positive, but important questions regarding the quality and certainty of many studies remain, however if ivermectin is even just 10% effective against covid, its professional use could already have saved a million people.
What he didn’t mention is the increase in non covid hospitalization and deaths…This is the price of panic, lockdowns and travel restrictions…it’s happening everywhere
We seem to be forgetting that missed diagnostics due to Minnis travel restrictions are bringing a lot of our elderly into hospitals in a bad condition then they would otherwise be...the end result is excess death and not necessarily because of covid and as we know those with comorbidity suffer when it comes to COVID... Scotland, Germany and England are seeing record excess deaths (but not all of covid) in spite being heavily vaccinated. This the price of Government and Medical panic policies...we will feel it here too...
Psst - not going stop future outbreaks... outbreak in nearly universally vaxxed hospital using N95s and face shields..spoiler it didn't matter...
“This communication… challenges the assumption that high universal vaccination rates will lead to herd immunity and prevent COVID-19 outbreaks… In the outbreak described here, 96.2% of the exposed population was vaccinated. Infection advanced rapidly (many cases became symptomatic within 2 days of exposure), and viral load was high.”
Protect the narrative at all costs… ignore the fact that excess mortality exceeds 2020 this time of year in spite of vaccination, ignore the fact that ‘ascribed’ covid deaths are greater at this time of year in spite of vaccination.. Fully vaccinated schools are going online because of Covid cases…it’s the blind leading the blind over the cliff…
So basically 30% and we're jumping up down, patting ourselves on the back? Iceland got to 90% (fat lot of good it did them) - it's a leaky, doesn't last long and pales in comparison to natural immunity style of next gen 'vaccine'... yet seems to be vital to some strange effort digitalise everyone's identity so we'll never stop hearing about it...basically CDC director has no admitted it 'can't' stop transmission - so really this is a gigantic waste of effort unless you've got underlying conditions...let's just focus on building a better health care system for all diseases...
whogothere says...
Tragic...the reality is vaccine protection is sadly fleeting...
"Vaccine effectiveness of BNT162b2 against infection waned progressively from 92% .....and from day 211 and onwards no effectiveness could be detected"
"effectiveness of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 was generally lower and waned faster, with no effectiveness detected from day 121 and onwards"
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm…
On ‘Why we’re getting our vaccinations’
Posted 27 October 2021, 1:21 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
LOL Its a 'caged wolf' for the vast majority of society - ie for most ~85% that are infected its a case of a mild headache, mild cough - or might not even know they have it...but media and politics just see all the crap you just mentioned...they leave out those 'complications' mostly happen in older, 'sick' or fat people...closing gyms, locking people in doors, keeping people in fear and keeping kids out of schools is just simply undermining society..
On EDITORIAL: Dr Darville needs to take charge of COVID fight
Posted 27 October 2021, 1:16 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Can we buy like a large chunk of the USA or Canada just for back up in case our country sinks in a couple decades? I hear thats what Maldives and others are doing...
www.smh.com.au/world/maldives-may-buy-p…
www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/ju…
On Davis: Climate change an existential threat to nation
Posted 27 October 2021, 11:32 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
"avicenna put two lambs in separate cages. Lambs were the same age and the same weight, and fed with the same food. All conditions were equal. However, at the same time, there was a wolf in the third cage. Only one lamb could see the wolf but not the other lamb.
Months later, the lamb who saw the wolf was cranky, restless, poorly developing, and losing weight. The lamb died whilst the other lamb remained healthy. Although the wolf did nothing to the lamb next to it, the fear and stress that lamb lived in killed it prematurely, while the other lamb that did not see the wolf, was peaceful and developed well with a healthy weight gain."
I guess we're all sheep, though just some of us just see caged wolfs...
Sooner we all stop focusing on COVID the better...focus on wholistic health as a metric societal wellbeing please...COVID is a wolf for the elderly, the fat and the immune compromised - they need protection yes as sad as that is, but the rest of us need to move on.. Children need to go to school, business need to have the confidence in government to open freely, hug grandma just take a test before hand...We're not going to vaccinate or mask ourselves out of this..but low cost widely available testing for certain situations makes complete sense..
On EDITORIAL: Dr Darville needs to take charge of COVID fight
Posted 27 October 2021, 11:28 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Oh bobby boy - calling you out dude - here are about 60 studies on Ivermectin...HCQ I'm not on that ship. That said the current evidence base concerning the use of ivermectin in the early treatment of covid continues to be positive, but important questions regarding the quality and certainty of many studies remain, however if ivermectin is even just 10% effective against covid, its professional use could already have saved a million people.
https://ivmmeta.com/#fig_fpr
On ‘DYING PEOPLE TOO SLOW TO SEEK HELP’: Darville says patients not seeking medical aid until it is too late
Posted 27 October 2021, 8:37 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
What he didn’t mention is the increase in non covid hospitalization and deaths…This is the price of panic, lockdowns and travel restrictions…it’s happening everywhere
www.npr.org/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-a…
On ‘DYING PEOPLE TOO SLOW TO SEEK HELP’: Darville says patients not seeking medical aid until it is too late
Posted 26 October 2021, 11:24 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
We seem to be forgetting that missed diagnostics due to Minnis travel restrictions are bringing a lot of our elderly into hospitals in a bad condition then they would otherwise be...the end result is excess death and not necessarily because of covid and as we know those with comorbidity suffer when it comes to COVID... Scotland, Germany and England are seeing record excess deaths (but not all of covid) in spite being heavily vaccinated. This the price of Government and Medical panic policies...we will feel it here too...
On Coffins being shipped in bulk as deaths rise
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whogothere says...
Psst - not going stop future outbreaks... outbreak in nearly universally vaxxed hospital using N95s and face shields..spoiler it didn't matter...
“This communication… challenges the assumption that high universal vaccination rates will lead to herd immunity and prevent COVID-19 outbreaks… In the outbreak described here, 96.2% of the exposed population was vaccinated. Infection advanced rapidly (many cases became symptomatic within 2 days of exposure), and viral load was high.”
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/conten…
Interesting of the infected pantients only those previous covid infections had mild outcomes ;)
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On More jabs is good - but supplies running low
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whogothere says...
Protect the narrative at all costs… ignore the fact that excess mortality exceeds 2020 this time of year in spite of vaccination, ignore the fact that ‘ascribed’ covid deaths are greater at this time of year in spite of vaccination..
Fully vaccinated schools are going online because of Covid cases…it’s the blind leading the blind over the cliff…
On MORE THAN 100K NOW VACCINATED . . . but confirmation of 20 more deaths shows COVID fight not over
Posted 5 October 2021, 6:46 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
So basically 30% and we're jumping up down, patting ourselves on the back? Iceland got to 90% (fat lot of good it did them) - it's a leaky, doesn't last long and pales in comparison to natural immunity style of next gen 'vaccine'... yet seems to be vital to some strange effort digitalise everyone's identity so we'll never stop hearing about it...basically CDC director has no admitted it 'can't' stop transmission - so really this is a gigantic waste of effort unless you've got underlying conditions...let's just focus on building a better health care system for all diseases...
On EDITORIAL: 100,000 vaccinations is no small feat
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