Hmm! where there's smoke, there's fire,

I call on all former officers and persons on the receiving end of the described type of treatment to speak out now and let this be the beginning of a movement for real change in the way interrogations are done.

Where is Marvin?

I knew of someone years ago who was detained by police for using street justice on a person involved in a domestic violence incident. I didnt condone the domestic violence or the vigilante retribution. The person they attacked was considered to be an upstanding citizen. The police beat that vigilante silly.

"*Dames said the former officer, Bernard Swann, was never an investigator and lacks the credibility *"

If funny business is going on, even the janitor in the organization know.

Marvin Dames recently conducted a home invasion where every adult male occupant in site was killed by police. And despite police reports that the men were shooting at them, other eyewitnesses say the men were either sleeping, hiding or begging for their lives. And because they were masked, some feel that some of the police may not even be Bahamian. So will it take an incident where one is injured or fatally shot to confirm that foreign police are active on the Bahamas police force? Can Marvin Dames confirm or deny that there are foreign officers working on the police force? And from which country are they from? then there was the young man who was on his way to work, but was shot 18 times by a police officer and nothing has been done about it. And not to forget the male tourist who was slapped by a police officer downtown. Or the young man on Prince Charles who was knocked off his bike and had his tooth punched out by police officers. And then there is the missing Marvin Smith from Gambier who allegedly went missing while in the hands of police and has still not been found. And many young men will tell you they fear the police more than rival gangs because they pick them up, beat them, then lock them up for no apparent reason. So cheaper Meltdown Marvin fess up or shut up. No one believes him. Seems strange that no one from government seems to be reaching out to young men and trying to curb the from crime and gang avivity. Getting them jobs or career opportunities and trying to get them back to living as productive, law abiding citizens. Why is the 'us vs them' war still going on rather than trying to bring the prodigal sons back home..ALIVE!

I guess since there are no recorded on film audio tapping of police interrogations available populace review for they selves, the comrade minister can seek refuge with his pronouncements that all has always been, is, well within ranks policeman's encounters populaces, yes, no..... how far back does it go, might do minister some educational good review conduct between policeman's and former King of England's conduct during his tenure as Colony of Out Islands governor-general following the murder Sir Harry Oakes, yes, no................

In our country we are trained from childhood to solve conflict with physical force ..Please don,t insult me and say the problem is we don,t whup kids anymore , we whip the snot out of them .I see it daily ,,usually the parent yelling at them first , "if you don stop that I ga cut ya ass " and then the angry parent inflicting some form of physical abuse . How come the countries where hitting a child is outlawed , the Nordic countries , have the lowest violent crime levels and homicide rate ..We have a homicide rate like a war zone , and no @john it is not the U S fault or the CIA ..We are beating the snot out of kids under the guise of spare the rod and creating an ever more violent society that solves even minor conflicts w physical force

Maybe we learnt that from our slave masters. To brutalize and torture our children And when beatings were not successful massa (your forefathers concerned citizen) resorted breaking up the family mercilessly and without emotion selling them like a farm crop but with despise, then to lynchings and hangings. I’m sure your rember massa. Sir, yess Sir! Das wat your forefathers done did!

Dames and Ferguson are the only two fools to claim they don't know what shanigans and brutality usually goes on to get a conviction to help them achieve the kind of statistics they like to tout.

Which Police Department in the world has not done the things that are in the recording??????? .......... Black, White and Chinese police do it.

So what's your point? Is it that they do it so why don't we do it? LMAO

Without a shadow of a doubt this former officer is speaking to what HE knows—acts he has committed, incidents which he may be aware of; but, he can’t generalize his illegal behavior as a law enforcement officer and that of other misfits, and assert it as the norm. I am a former police officer and never falsified a report nor sent an innocent individual to prison…and I only speak for myself but must trust that there are other honorable officers (past and present) like myself. I will never make excuses for, nor do I condone illegal behavior by law enforcement…no matter how difficult and lawless the populace it is sworn to serve and protect may be, and the majority of the Bahamian populace is lawless (illegal appropriation, white/blue color and serious crimes, as well as traffic offenses). The narrative from the public and criminal element will always portray law enforcement poorly; however, most of us, are never honest with what the problem truly is, which is our lawlessness as a nation. Where this lawlessness stems from is debatable but curtailing and eradicating the bulk of this lawless behavior is imperative in regaining a little control on crime in our country. No organization is free of misfits and unsavory characters, but I do have faith that our police force is not as lawless as our general population—because if you believe this gentleman’s statements and attributed to all of our police officers (past and present), no professional policing is done…which is unequivocally not true.

Be assured that we know you exist. "Honest policeman". But we also know that the police force is like many organizations, the bullies commit infractions and nobody says anything because they don't want to become the target. Management looks the other way because they don't want the stress. They asked the officer IN CHARGE what happened to that prisoner they had to call an ambulance for and he said he didn't know. That's beyond the bounds of anything honest or believable

The police , the politicians etc represent our values and behavior .They are us and came from us they are not some sub set of people culled from another place or planet .If out of 100 Bahamians 30 are dishonest and lean toward violence you will have the same thing on the force .Actually we have been trained since we are small children to solve problems w physical force .Please don't insult me and say the problem is we don whup kids anymore .I see it everyday ,it starts w the parent sayin ,"if you don,t stop it I ga cut your hip " and progresses to the angry parent inflicting some form of physical abuse . Why do the Nordic countries where hitting children or spanking is frowned upon and against the law have the lowest rates of homicide and violent crime ??

Well the first part of your statement is exactly my point. I said "*the police force is like every other organization*"

I absolutely agree with you there are "bullies/misfits/criminals" and as ConcernedCitizen stated the Police Force like other government organizations, as well as private entities, is a microcosm of our society--In my opinion, the bulk of the Bahamian populace is law defiant. So, of course, there will be lawless individuals as members of law enforcement. My problem with this guy's comments is that it fuels an erroneous narrative because of its a generalized statement/accusation and not an opinion--he asserts that because he and some others he knew did foolishness that all did/does.

Sure. The same thing happens in school and on job sites. Its never the case that every single person in the class is bullying a student. Its one or 2 students, the rest watch for entertainment or stay out the way glad its not them.

I had an individual on the defence force tell me years ago that they would round up jonsers for their "regular beatings" and of course the official objective was "cleaning up the streets". This was described as an entertainment activity for the officers. Marvin Dames knows just what's going on, he is going out of his way not to uncover actual evidence.

A few years ago my now fiance was severely beaten on the accusations that my neighbour 'Thought' she knew. The officer dealing with this matter at that time was my neighbour's son. And he had a high ranking position on the police force and he told us that he would make it his personal business to see that my fiance goes to jail at any cost , "as long as he was Superintendent of the Royal Bahamas Police force" he said. He made threats to myself and our family and whenever he came to visit his mother, "our neighbour" he would laugh at my fiances demise because he was beaten, tourtured and sent to prison without bail. This then Superintendent sent his personal friends who were also working at CID at that time,to come into my home and remove items that they claimed belonged to the said neighbour, items that i went back to the station to get back with sufficient id's and receipts and i never got my items back that they stole from me. This Superintendent, also friends with the prosecutions lawyer, tried their best to bribe my fiance to lie on himself and threatened him not to speak about any of the police abuse that happened in court. I paid for a very good lawer who exposed everything to the court and because of the insufficient evidence and the actual perpertrater turning himself in, my fiance was released and all charges were dropped. I reported the superintendent to the corruptions department and after many years he was just recently retired . I never got my belongings back from CID and my fiance now has many scars from the beatings both mentally and physically about the body. My neighbour's Son still comes around to hail his mother and walks past us like nothing ever happened, no apology no nothing. My fiance went through hell and back for nothing and i have but one picture in our album as a reminder of how corrupt the police force can truely be.

Just spoke with a young man i've known for decades, was arrested and detained for 3 months for breaking into his Mothers bar/rest. He opens and closes the place for her.
His prints were the only basis for his arrest. Charges were dropped, but he spent 3 months in fox hill and lost two cell phones to the Police.......
At least he lived through the ordeal, thankfully.

Agree ......... 1000%