I really do not know what the proper approach to it is or should be...I agree there needs to be a way to enforce immigration laws...but this is illegal and not the way to do it. To quote our fearless leaders when asked just about anything these days...it is a complex issue...maybe they should form a committee or bring in some consultants to advise on the issue.
Problem there is that as a citizen of the country, you legally do not have to carry any ID with you. What they (the police and immigration) are doing is illegal...especially if they illegally detain someone who is actually a bonafide citizen. Until they change the constitution and make it mandatory for all people to carry national ID cards, these blockades are illegal and a form of harassment.
A couple things to bear in mind Rory...he may not like the Bahamas...he may just be down here for a couple years by bank orders to manage the offices down here...or he may love the place...maybe he does own property and may even be a permanent resident...which makes it worse...I don't know what the full scoop is on people with permanent residency with the right to work, if they need to carry their papers or not, like a work permit holder...but the room for error with these thugs demanding this and that is SO huge...it's bad bad news and not the right way to do it.
This is not the proper way to handle this problem though...I am not too sure exactly what IS the proper way either, but if you do not see that it is a threat to your rights as a citizen of this country to walk freely in your country without being detained and flagged as an illegal you are a fool. So many lines getting crossed, laws being broken...by the people meant to uphold those very same laws.
They are hooligans and it is a form of harassment...while Mr. Fiaux's case is slightly different as he IS here on a work permit, I do believe there are requirements to carry your permit with you. Was the roughness necessary though...when he tells you he is the head of one of the largest Swiss banks in the world, I'd like to think that you could request for him to follow up with certain officers and get the papers for proof. I'm willing to bet if he was asked he would have gone to wherever the papers were and returned out of pride to show those same officers. Now...in my situation...as a Bahamian citizen of this country, if they so much as touch me and take me down to the detention centre they will have lawsuits all over themselves so dang fast it will make their heads spin.
It's not so much...support any more...it's a sympathy/pity thing...he's clearly never going to run or get elected again so let's just give him our support for the next 3 years while he runs the country into the ground.
As bad as the Haitian invasion is, I have no real problem with their being a disparity in the fines. When I look at the various Caribbean islands out there, I could probably safely say that the Haitians are the worst off...way worse than any Jamaican. Heck...the Jamaican was here legally at first, whether it be as a tourist or on a temporary work permit, probably flew in on a relatively comfortable plane. Willing to bet most if not all the haitians in that batch came in riding on a cramped boat on the verge of sinking with 100+ of other people wallowing in their own feces. I do have a bit more sympathy with the Haitians and what they get fined...its a double standard I know, but I'll admit to it. In terms of desperate situations, they win.
I can only guess it goes like this...the Haitians entered illegally...probably on one of the many boats/sloops...probably don't have 2 dimes to rub together. The Jamaican entered the country legally, obviously found work and was likely working illegally and has $$...but this is pure guesstimation at this point, could be way off base.
B_I_D___ says...
I really do not know what the proper approach to it is or should be...I agree there needs to be a way to enforce immigration laws...but this is illegal and not the way to do it. To quote our fearless leaders when asked just about anything these days...it is a complex issue...maybe they should form a committee or bring in some consultants to advise on the issue.
On Top bank executive detained at immigration road block
Posted 15 January 2014, 1:39 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
Problem there is that as a citizen of the country, you legally do not have to carry any ID with you. What they (the police and immigration) are doing is illegal...especially if they illegally detain someone who is actually a bonafide citizen. Until they change the constitution and make it mandatory for all people to carry national ID cards, these blockades are illegal and a form of harassment.
On Top bank executive detained at immigration road block
Posted 15 January 2014, 1:35 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
A couple things to bear in mind Rory...he may not like the Bahamas...he may just be down here for a couple years by bank orders to manage the offices down here...or he may love the place...maybe he does own property and may even be a permanent resident...which makes it worse...I don't know what the full scoop is on people with permanent residency with the right to work, if they need to carry their papers or not, like a work permit holder...but the room for error with these thugs demanding this and that is SO huge...it's bad bad news and not the right way to do it.
On Top bank executive detained at immigration road block
Posted 15 January 2014, 1:25 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
This is not the proper way to handle this problem though...I am not too sure exactly what IS the proper way either, but if you do not see that it is a threat to your rights as a citizen of this country to walk freely in your country without being detained and flagged as an illegal you are a fool. So many lines getting crossed, laws being broken...by the people meant to uphold those very same laws.
On Top bank executive detained at immigration road block
Posted 15 January 2014, 1:18 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
They are hooligans and it is a form of harassment...while Mr. Fiaux's case is slightly different as he IS here on a work permit, I do believe there are requirements to carry your permit with you. Was the roughness necessary though...when he tells you he is the head of one of the largest Swiss banks in the world, I'd like to think that you could request for him to follow up with certain officers and get the papers for proof. I'm willing to bet if he was asked he would have gone to wherever the papers were and returned out of pride to show those same officers. Now...in my situation...as a Bahamian citizen of this country, if they so much as touch me and take me down to the detention centre they will have lawsuits all over themselves so dang fast it will make their heads spin.
On Top bank executive detained at immigration road block
Posted 15 January 2014, 12:43 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
It's not so much...support any more...it's a sympathy/pity thing...he's clearly never going to run or get elected again so let's just give him our support for the next 3 years while he runs the country into the ground.
On PM admits concern for his safety as he details crime crackdown
Posted 15 January 2014, 12:15 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
As bad as the Haitian invasion is, I have no real problem with their being a disparity in the fines. When I look at the various Caribbean islands out there, I could probably safely say that the Haitians are the worst off...way worse than any Jamaican. Heck...the Jamaican was here legally at first, whether it be as a tourist or on a temporary work permit, probably flew in on a relatively comfortable plane. Willing to bet most if not all the haitians in that batch came in riding on a cramped boat on the verge of sinking with 100+ of other people wallowing in their own feces. I do have a bit more sympathy with the Haitians and what they get fined...its a double standard I know, but I'll admit to it. In terms of desperate situations, they win.
On Pregnant woman among group of suspected illegal immigrants facing court
Posted 15 January 2014, 11:41 a.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
It's only a matter of time before there is an epic bus disaster with multiple deaths, these Jitney drivers are a menace!!
On Bus knocked into air by crash lands on beach
Posted 15 January 2014, 11:29 a.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
I can only guess it goes like this...the Haitians entered illegally...probably on one of the many boats/sloops...probably don't have 2 dimes to rub together. The Jamaican entered the country legally, obviously found work and was likely working illegally and has $$...but this is pure guesstimation at this point, could be way off base.
On Pregnant woman among group of suspected illegal immigrants facing court
Posted 14 January 2014, 3:46 p.m. Suggest removal
B_I_D___ says...
PGC...Prefers Gorging on Crack.
On PM promises no economy shrink from tax reform
Posted 14 January 2014, 3:23 p.m. Suggest removal