They are not experimental, any more so than any other vaccine. If you understood how the whole R&D, Clinical Trial and approval process worked, then you would see that. Unfortunately, most people don't, so they get understandably nervous and negative when it happens faster than normal
Antibody tests are not always the best indicator. It can take 1-3 weeks after COVID symptoms start for the antibodies to appear in the blood. There is also the question of how long after having COVID is there still sufficient concentration of antibodies to produce a meaningful test response.
Then of course there is the accuracy of the test.
Skip this next bit if Math is not your cup of tea.
I think the best test has 95% sensitivity & specificity. If you use this test on a sample of 1,000 people of which 50 actually have antibodies to the virus, the test will correctly identify 95 percent of the true positives, i.e. 47 individuals (50 x 0.95). When it comes to true negatives, the test will correctly identify 95 percent, or 902 out of 950 individuals (950 x 0.95). The other 48 will get a (false) positive result, even though they do not have antibodies. The total number of positive results will be 95 (47 + 48) out of 1,000. However, since only 47 of those positive results will actually be correct, the probability that you actually have COVID antibodies is only about 50 percent which means you may as well just toss a coin.
Exactly right, makes me want to throw up. But it's not just the leftist media who fawn over any political martyr, the 'rightist' media do the same when they have the opportunity. They have us all brainwashed.
Never heard Republicans complain about Cheney, until she went against Trump. As far as I'm aware she was very well liked and respected by most in the party, until she did this. Then the Turncoats realized their political futures were at risk if they sided with her. Just goes to show how much power Trump has over his flock of sheep. Baa-Baa-Baa
Wrong, it's due to population density, lifestyle and interaction with outsiders !! There is absolutely no peer reviewed evidence to support HCQ & Ivermectin as being useful to protect against catching COVID.
All you people who love to complain about how rushed the vaccine clinical trials were, and won't be taking the vaccine, are the same people who are more than happy to take HCQ and Ivermectin without performing any clinical trials. Something stinks with your logic !
I think she's referring to the way the conch fisherman & vendors store the conch once it's been caught. Storing the conch in a bucket or tub of salt water, and leaving the bucket out in the hot sun for several hours will cause the water to warm up and the bacteria to multiply. Makes sense to me.
Now whether or not this is the real reason for this batch of poisoning, is a different matter.
Agreed ! One of the pre-requisites for operating one of these stalls should be proof of insurance. I can't imagine the cost of building one of these stalls is all that great, so insurance premiums should be very reasonable
Bobsyeruncle says...
They are not experimental, any more so than any other vaccine. If you understood how the whole R&D, Clinical Trial and approval process worked, then you would see that. Unfortunately, most people don't, so they get understandably nervous and negative when it happens faster than normal
On The dilemma we face over vaccinations
Posted 17 May 2021, 8:23 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
*Repost:*
Antibody tests are not always the best indicator. It can take 1-3 weeks after COVID symptoms start for the antibodies to appear in the blood. There is also the question of how long after having COVID is there still sufficient concentration of antibodies to produce a meaningful test response.
Then of course there is the accuracy of the test.
Skip this next bit if Math is not your cup of tea.
I think the best test has 95% sensitivity & specificity. If you use this test on a sample of 1,000 people of which 50 actually have antibodies to the virus, the test will correctly identify 95 percent of the true positives, i.e. 47 individuals (50 x 0.95). When it comes to true negatives, the test will correctly identify 95 percent, or 902 out of 950 individuals (950 x 0.95). The other 48 will get a (false) positive result, even though they do not have antibodies. The total number of positive results will be 95 (47 + 48) out of 1,000. However, since only 47 of those positive results will actually be correct, the probability that you actually have COVID antibodies is only about 50 percent which means you may as well just toss a coin.
On 6 MORE MONTHS: Emergency laws extended due to low vaccine uptake and threat from variants
Posted 17 May 2021, 8:06 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
Exactly right, makes me want to throw up. But it's not just the leftist media who fawn over any political martyr, the 'rightist' media do the same when they have the opportunity. They have us all brainwashed.
On STATESIDE: We may be entering one of the most discouraging epochs in American political history
Posted 14 May 2021, 7:16 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
At least he can spell - lol.
On STATESIDE: We may be entering one of the most discouraging epochs in American political history
Posted 14 May 2021, 5:48 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
Never heard Republicans complain about Cheney, until she went against Trump. As far as I'm aware she was very well liked and respected by most in the party, until she did this. Then the Turncoats realized their political futures were at risk if they sided with her. Just goes to show how much power Trump has over his flock of sheep. Baa-Baa-Baa
On STATESIDE: We may be entering one of the most discouraging epochs in American political history
Posted 14 May 2021, 5:47 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
Holy Crap !! Where did you get that BS from ?
On NURSE SHORTAGE ADDING TO CRISIS: As Third Wave fills beds hospitals struggle to find staff to deal with patients
Posted 14 May 2021, 5:21 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
Wrong, it's due to population density, lifestyle and interaction with outsiders !!
There is absolutely no peer reviewed evidence to support HCQ & Ivermectin as being useful to protect against catching COVID.
All you people who love to complain about how rushed the vaccine clinical trials were, and won't be taking the vaccine, are the same people who are more than happy to take HCQ and Ivermectin without performing any clinical trials. Something stinks with your logic !
On NURSE SHORTAGE ADDING TO CRISIS: As Third Wave fills beds hospitals struggle to find staff to deal with patients
Posted 14 May 2021, 5:13 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
What are the long term effects of taking those unregulated & unproven supplements? :)
On NURSE SHORTAGE ADDING TO CRISIS: As Third Wave fills beds hospitals struggle to find staff to deal with patients
Posted 14 May 2021, 5:06 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
I think she's referring to the way the conch fisherman & vendors store the conch once it's been caught. Storing the conch in a bucket or tub of salt water, and leaving the bucket out in the hot sun for several hours will cause the water to warm up and the bacteria to multiply. Makes sense to me.
Now whether or not this is the real reason for this batch of poisoning, is a different matter.
On Weather to blame for conch cases
Posted 5 May 2021, 5:13 p.m. Suggest removal
Bobsyeruncle says...
Agreed ! One of the pre-requisites for operating one of these stalls should be proof of insurance. I can't imagine the cost of building one of these stalls is all that great, so insurance premiums should be very reasonable
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