I understand what you are saying Tal. I was really looking at infrastructure. Nassau with its million potholes and narrow streets was really designed with the horse 'n' carriage in mind.
Here's a far fetched idea:The government of the Bahamas should buy GBPA and make Freeport the capital city of the Bahamas. Freeport is organized, it has all of the correct infrastructures and is designed like a modern city. Move all of the main government offices and public buildings there and the economy would automatically be energized. At least Bahamians would be proud to have a clean and systematic capital city. Meanwhile, clean up dirty Nassau and try to instil some pride in the many residents who live like rats in a sewer.
Voltaire, I will agree to disagree on this issue. Haiti being a failed state is nobody else's fault but the Haitian people and the government of Haiti. Sending Haitians back to Haiti to rebuild their own country is not a fantasy. IF you and other Haitian nationals put the same passion that you are putting into this dead debate, you can rebuild Haiti collectively. Don't hand me that bullshit about us being at fault or guilty of sending these people back to poverty etc. The sympathy card does not work anymore. The reality is that there are countless Bahamian kids and families who are also living in poverty. As the old adage goes, "God helps those who help themselves."
In conclusion, let me say that I have no problems sleeping at night. While I don't dislike illegal Haitians or don't see them as being inferior, I will stand by the majority of Bahamians who think that it is in the best interest of the Bahamas to send all illegals back to their country by all means necessary. I will not apologize for loving my country more than any other.
@shamebahamas-Something tells me you have some Haitian roots. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that. But if that is who you are, state who you are and then give your reasons for fighting for who you are. Because the word 'alleged' can be used by you when referring to the Haitian government being corrupt but does not apply when relating to abuse by Bahamian officials. If you are of Haitian origin, I don't expect for you to look at both sides of the argument. I am a Bahamian. Again, I will never state emphatically that Bahamians are 100% innocent regarding any of these claims.
Let's look at something here though:I don't believe that you are sincere about the issues of human rights abuse in the Bahamas. You are concerned about alleged human rights against Haitians living in the Bahamas. This makes your advocacy for stopping inhumane abuse insincere. You talked about being Christian but yet you are being selfish by choosing your battles. A true Christian does not pick and choose battles. Sorry, but ya don't get to register the name 'shamebahamas' on the Tribune page yesterday just to comment about something that you claim to have been going on in the Bahamas for a long time. Something tells me that you and others who are complaining are upset because the Bahamas is finally waking up and deporting haitians out of this country. I put it to you that if the deportation exercise was not taking place, your comments wouldn't be on this page. OR you can prove me wrong and shame me by copying and pasting another article you posted before in relation to this matter.
Voltaire, it seems as if you are bend hard on blaming the Bahamas for every aspect of the Haitian migration problem and the results of poor people leaving Haiti to come to the Bahamas. Whenever someone feeds you some conspiracy theory, no matter how far fetch, about the government having ulterior motives to do what they're doing, you run with it and make it your argument. You never once mention how the Haitian government is really responsible for its own people. You never refer to the fact that Haiti has one of the worst records in regards to people abuse and corruption. I never once see you mention the danger that these Haitians put their young children through when they try to traverse the treacherous seas to get to the Bahamas or any other country. You try to tear apart anyone comments that are against your beliefs. Haiti is an old ass country, if anything they should be leading by example not burdening the rest of the world.
We can talk about the constitution and human rights as much as we like. We can talk about how people around the world must be watching our alleged abuse and or dislike for the Haitian population as much as we like. The hardcore truth is that people all over the world are fighting their own battle with illegal Haitians. Should all of these countries be chastised for forcibly removing illegal Haitians from their country? And no matter how deportation policy carried out, people are gonna complain about some kind of abuse, because they feel they have a right to be in that country. They feel they help build that country. The argument about why,when,how and WHERE the government of the Bahamas is deporting illegal immigrants is invalid in the Bahamas. Take your concerns to the source of the problem, which is in Haiti. When social services is called because a child or children are being abused in a home, what it the first thing they do? Remove the child from that home. I am saying the same thing. Go back to your own country, help rebuilt your nation and stop trying to fight a losing a battle of belonging where you are not wanted!
@shamebahamas-The argument here is not about climate change. When you talk about Haiti's human rights abuse and mistreatment of their OWN people then you have an argument. As for now, your claims are baseless. You cannot lay the full blame of any kind of abuse SOLEY on the feet of the Bahamian people without first looking at the real source of the problem. Shouldn't you be cussin out the Haitian government for allowing their people to leave their country and be abused? Shouldn't you be blaming the Haitian government for stealing most of the money donated to them and not looking after their own people? Shouldn't you be blaming the Haitian government for not educating their people and providing stable employment so that their people can live in dignity? Shouldn't you be blaming the Haitian government for not teaching their woman the importance of contraceptive to avoid having so many children that they are unable to care for? Do you wish for me to go on???
Emac says...
I understand what you are saying Tal. I was really looking at infrastructure. Nassau with its million potholes and narrow streets was really designed with the horse 'n' carriage in mind.
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Emac says...
Here's a far fetched idea:The government of the Bahamas should buy GBPA and make Freeport the capital city of the Bahamas. Freeport is organized, it has all of the correct infrastructures and is designed like a modern city. Move all of the main government offices and public buildings there and the economy would automatically be energized. At least Bahamians would be proud to have a clean and systematic capital city. Meanwhile, clean up dirty Nassau and try to instil some pride in the many residents who live like rats in a sewer.
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Emac says...
Lol..You think so?
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Emac says...
:-)
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Emac says...
Voltaire, I will agree to disagree on this issue. Haiti being a failed state is nobody else's fault but the Haitian people and the government of Haiti. Sending Haitians back to Haiti to rebuild their own country is not a fantasy. IF you and other Haitian nationals put the same passion that you are putting into this dead debate, you can rebuild Haiti collectively. Don't hand me that bullshit about us being at fault or guilty of sending these people back to poverty etc. The sympathy card does not work anymore. The reality is that there are countless Bahamian kids and families who are also living in poverty. As the old adage goes, "God helps those who help themselves."
In conclusion, let me say that I have no problems sleeping at night. While I don't dislike illegal Haitians or don't see them as being inferior, I will stand by the majority of Bahamians who think that it is in the best interest of the Bahamas to send all illegals back to their country by all means necessary. I will not apologize for loving my country more than any other.
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Emac says...
Great! Look forward to seeing your postings against all ills of our society on these pages.
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Emac says...
@shamebahamas-Something tells me you have some Haitian roots. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that. But if that is who you are, state who you are and then give your reasons for fighting for who you are. Because the word 'alleged' can be used by you when referring to the Haitian government being corrupt but does not apply when relating to abuse by Bahamian officials. If you are of Haitian origin, I don't expect for you to look at both sides of the argument. I am a Bahamian. Again, I will never state emphatically that Bahamians are 100% innocent regarding any of these claims.
Let's look at something here though:I don't believe that you are sincere about the issues of human rights abuse in the Bahamas. You are concerned about alleged human rights against Haitians living in the Bahamas. This makes your advocacy for stopping inhumane abuse insincere. You talked about being Christian but yet you are being selfish by choosing your battles. A true Christian does not pick and choose battles.
Sorry, but ya don't get to register the name 'shamebahamas' on the Tribune page yesterday just to comment about something that you claim to have been going on in the Bahamas for a long time. Something tells me that you and others who are complaining are upset because the Bahamas is finally waking up and deporting haitians out of this country. I put it to you that if the deportation exercise was not taking place, your comments wouldn't be on this page. OR you can prove me wrong and shame me by copying and pasting another article you posted before in relation to this matter.
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Emac says...
The pot can call the kettle black whenever the pot is legal and can support their own children Voltaire.
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Emac says...
Voltaire, it seems as if you are bend hard on blaming the Bahamas for every aspect of the Haitian migration problem and the results of poor people leaving Haiti to come to the Bahamas. Whenever someone feeds you some conspiracy theory, no matter how far fetch, about the government having ulterior motives to do what they're doing, you run with it and make it your argument. You never once mention how the Haitian government is really responsible for its own people. You never refer to the fact that Haiti has one of the worst records in regards to people abuse and corruption. I never once see you mention the danger that these Haitians put their young children through when they try to traverse the treacherous seas to get to the Bahamas or any other country. You try to tear apart anyone comments that are against your beliefs. Haiti is an old ass country, if anything they should be leading by example not burdening the rest of the world.
We can talk about the constitution and human rights as much as we like. We can talk about how people around the world must be watching our alleged abuse and or dislike for the Haitian population as much as we like. The hardcore truth is that people all over the world are fighting their own battle with illegal Haitians. Should all of these countries be chastised for forcibly removing illegal Haitians from their country? And no matter how deportation policy carried out, people are gonna complain about some kind of abuse, because they feel they have a right to be in that country. They feel they help build that country. The argument about why,when,how and WHERE the government of the Bahamas is deporting illegal immigrants is invalid in the Bahamas. Take your concerns to the source of the problem, which is in Haiti. When social services is called because a child or children are being abused in a home, what it the first thing they do? Remove the child from that home. I am saying the same thing. Go back to your own country, help rebuilt your nation and stop trying to fight a losing a battle of belonging where you are not wanted!
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Emac says...
@shamebahamas-The argument here is not about climate change. When you talk about Haiti's human rights abuse and mistreatment of their OWN people then you have an argument. As for now, your claims are baseless. You cannot lay the full blame of any kind of abuse SOLEY on the feet of the Bahamian people without first looking at the real source of the problem. Shouldn't you be cussin out the Haitian government for allowing their people to leave their country and be abused? Shouldn't you be blaming the Haitian government for stealing most of the money donated to them and not looking after their own people? Shouldn't you be blaming the Haitian government for not educating their people and providing stable employment so that their people can live in dignity? Shouldn't you be blaming the Haitian government for not teaching their woman the importance of contraceptive to avoid having so many children that they are unable to care for? Do you wish for me to go on???
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co…
You see shamebahamas, anyone can cut 'n' paste
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