What can the poor Bahamian do when the government continues to cloak illegals and promote birthright citizenship even though it doesn't exist? Constantly coddling, defending and portraying Haitian nationals as victims even when they are not and clearly in breach of the law is what makes them feel above it. It's no wonder, like spoiled children, they're not afraid to bite the hand that feeds them. Today they demand their illegal residences be rebuilt, tomorrow it's a stipend for Haiti.
She (the sister) claimed it was lost after she sent it with a friend, no mention of a fire. I think neither could remember the particulars from the travel documents used when he was a minor. This is why he initially provided the wrong birth date and legal name for his alias.
You prove this adage true. If you actually read the comments on international new sites on immigration, you would see their comments are similar or worse. No need for any Bahamian to feel guilty or ashamed in wanting to preserve the Bahamas for future generations of Bahamians.
If you search you will find that story somewhere on this site. But I'm not surprised you didn't know, it died down very quickly. I can only assume no one was prosecuted, and no certificates being rescinded.
You're the one stretching by labeling him a political prisoner. He is an illegal who got caught on a routine patrol. Immigration officers have the right to question, arrest and detain anyone suspected of living illegally in the country. The only thing they did wrong was not take him to court. But tomorrow he will have his day in court.
Yes, we want people to abide by the constitution or work toward having it ammended. We cannot have vigilante justices and QCs applying their own rules, and making a mockery of the court system based on their personal beliefs or financial gain.
Jean Rony Jean Charles born in 1982 or 1985 is a Haitian who was allegedly born in the Bahamas, and he is not above the law. He needs to have his day in court where the laws are unbiasedly applied. And when the message is sent that birthright status is not the law and third party affadavits are not enough to identify someone...the minister or whatever immigration committee can then decide on his status.
The issue is much larger than Jean Rony now. Political prisoner? Give me a break. There are still questions surrounding his legal documents and he was in fact residing and working illegally in the Bahamas. The real blow to the constitution would have been to actually abide by the justice's illegal ruling without challenge. The government is now only trying to save face because they were at first, blindly accepting of and its future implications.
We are for the most part humane people. When in our history have we ever been violent toward illegals and/or Haitians or not shared the wealth of the country with them? We don't have to sing a happy tune as we do so, or as watch the country rapidly evolve in Haiti. It's disgusting how people like you try to make it taboo for Bahamians to stand up for Bahamas by labeling it something offensive.
What does his physical appearance or language have to do with anything?
His case is filled with holes starting with his unverified birth certificate where his sister was allowed to sign an affidavit in lieu of and the fact that he never applied for status, before or after the window. This justice conveniently applied and disregarded laws within the same article to reach his verdict. And to top it off, he went above his level of authority to demand status, for a man who never applied for status. His ruling also essentially, rendered immigration officers powerless in performing their jobs. These are the issues, his complexion and height have nothing to do with it.
It's great they are filing an appeal. However, his constitutional right expired at 20. The laws clearly need to be updated. But meanwhile, it's ridiculous to use the courts to enforce or deny claims that do not adhere to the constitution. This countersuit is just as bogus and essentially enforces at birthright status, or citizenship. Regardless of which side "wins", it will still be a landmark ruling with far reaching consequences for the country.
My2centz says...
What can the poor Bahamian do when the government continues to cloak illegals and promote birthright citizenship even though it doesn't exist? Constantly coddling, defending and portraying Haitian nationals as victims even when they are not and clearly in breach of the law is what makes them feel above it. It's no wonder, like spoiled children, they're not afraid to bite the hand that feeds them. Today they demand their illegal residences be rebuilt, tomorrow it's a stipend for Haiti.
On Jean Rony released from custody
Posted 6 February 2018, 9:04 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
She (the sister) claimed it was lost after she sent it with a friend, no mention of a fire. I think neither could remember the particulars from the travel documents used when he was a minor. This is why he initially provided the wrong birth date and legal name for his alias.
On Jean Rony in court after being thrown back in detention (video)
Posted 5 February 2018, 6:57 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
You prove this adage true. If you actually read the comments on international new sites on immigration, you would see their comments are similar or worse. No need for any Bahamian to feel guilty or ashamed in wanting to preserve the Bahamas for future generations of Bahamians.
On Jean Rony arrested on return, taken to Detention Centre
Posted 5 February 2018, 2 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
If you search you will find that story somewhere on this site. But I'm not surprised you didn't know, it died down very quickly. I can only assume no one was prosecuted, and no certificates being rescinded.
On Jean Rony arrested on return, taken to Detention Centre
Posted 5 February 2018, 1:51 p.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
You're the one stretching by labeling him a political prisoner. He is an illegal who got caught on a routine patrol. Immigration officers have the right to question, arrest and detain anyone suspected of living illegally in the country. The only thing they did wrong was not take him to court. But tomorrow he will have his day in court.
On Jean Rony arrested on return, taken to Detention Centre
Posted 4 February 2018, 9:27 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
Yes, we want people to abide by the constitution or work toward having it ammended. We cannot have vigilante justices and QCs applying their own rules, and making a mockery of the court system based on their personal beliefs or financial gain.
Jean Rony Jean Charles born in 1982 or 1985 is a Haitian who was allegedly born in the Bahamas, and he is not above the law. He needs to have his day in court where the laws are unbiasedly applied. And when the message is sent that birthright status is not the law and third party affadavits are not enough to identify someone...the minister or whatever immigration committee can then decide on his status.
On Jean Rony arrested on return, taken to Detention Centre
Posted 4 February 2018, 9:06 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
The issue is much larger than Jean Rony now. Political prisoner? Give me a break. There are still questions surrounding his legal documents and he was in fact residing and working illegally in the Bahamas. The real blow to the constitution would have been to actually abide by the justice's illegal ruling without challenge. The government is now only trying to save face because they were at first, blindly accepting of and its future implications.
On Jean Rony arrested on return, taken to Detention Centre
Posted 4 February 2018, 2:39 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
We are for the most part humane people. When in our history have we ever been violent toward illegals and/or Haitians or not shared the wealth of the country with them? We don't have to sing a happy tune as we do so, or as watch the country rapidly evolve in Haiti. It's disgusting how people like you try to make it taboo for Bahamians to stand up for Bahamas by labeling it something offensive.
On Govt files urgent appeal against Jean Rony ruling
Posted 4 February 2018, 2:16 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
What does his physical appearance or language have to do with anything?
His case is filled with holes starting with his unverified birth certificate where his sister was allowed to sign an affidavit in lieu of and the fact that he never applied for status, before or after the window. This justice conveniently applied and disregarded laws within the same article to reach his verdict. And to top it off, he went above his level of authority to demand status, for a man who never applied for status. His ruling also essentially, rendered immigration officers powerless in performing their jobs. These are the issues, his complexion and height have nothing to do with it.
On Govt files urgent appeal against Jean Rony ruling
Posted 4 February 2018, 2 a.m. Suggest removal
My2centz says...
It's great they are filing an appeal. However, his constitutional right expired at 20. The laws clearly need to be updated. But meanwhile, it's ridiculous to use the courts to enforce or deny claims that do not adhere to the constitution. This countersuit is just as bogus and essentially enforces at birthright status, or citizenship. Regardless of which side "wins", it will still be a landmark ruling with far reaching consequences for the country.
On Govt files urgent appeal against Jean Rony ruling
Posted 3 February 2018, 9:34 a.m. Suggest removal