Can someone be kind enough to wake me when real news becomes headline news? Appreciate it, because it has long since been obvious that any nobody in front of a microphone with an agenda can qualify for media domination. And I'm referring to Wells by the way.
One thing I noticed though and I'm curious. Why didn't Brent defend Lightbourne's character, affirming that he, to his knowledge, is not a racist? No, he is not Lightborne's spokesperson, but he has chosen to comment on the issue. Just wondered why he did not defend him. He spent most of the quoted interview speaking about himself.
I honestly believe that he is not comfortable with the subject of race. Indeed, it can be a very uncomfortable discussion depending on how it goes, but I think he would rather it never be brought up at all because it is not something he wants to face in whatever political aspirations he has. But that is simply not realistic thinking on his part.
I understand your perspective, but to be fair to the discussion on the Grand Bahama matter, that particular hotelier needed to be dealt with regarding his treatment of staff there years ago because the violations and complaints coming from that property are well documented and well known on that island. The government did not touch him before now presumably because it did not want to anger the new investors they were in bed with there at the time. Now, we are in an election year, so the government seems to have chosen to react for the look and the politics of it. The point I am making is, that issue in truth, was not simply about a rude white man who aggravated a few black Bahamians one night at an event.
We do have local Bahamian bosses who are pure trash. But they are Bahamian. This matter is an immigration matter as well as a labour matter. We have labour laws to protect all employees regardless of the employer, but there is also standard of conduct that is supposed to be observed by foreigners who are granted work and residency status in our country. Like everything else in this country ofcourse, few things are fair and balanced when it comes to enforcement or execution, but welcome to The Bahamas, as they say!
And my question to you remains - why is this same concern not being expressed for gender relations? Do you see what Minnis has done to many of the office-holding women of the FNM, one of whom, like Lightbourne, is also an elected Member of Parliament? Many of the men of that party believe she ought not seek to lead simply and only because she is a woman. She is having her character besmirched as well, and many of the attacks are gender-based. The men of the FNM have disrespected an entire island of Bahamians simply because they are represented by this female who her male colleagues hate and are threatened by. Why is an attack on female legislators (House and Senate) not a reason to see this as the beginning of the end for The Bahamas, like you view the Lightbourne situation? And the difference here is, Wells is the one doing the attacking and Minnis is silently giving consent. With the women of the FNM, Minnis is the hatchet man himself.
And where in what I said refutes or runs counter to what you just said sir? What you just said is what I have already said here on multiple occasions. My commentary is not about whether Minnis should remain on as leader of the FNM. My commentary is about the lack of genuineness about this issue on multiple sides as it pertains strictly to the issue of race.
Not sure where Rolle factors into this. Her inane rant had nothing to do with race, just her spouting off in defence of his indefensible leader's neuroticism about this post he seems to love more than life itself.
There is one point you raised here that I find curious. Why is Wells' attack on Lightborne something that threatens the future of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas? In all that has been going in with this disgraceful FNM infighting and its disgracefully poor performance as opposition in our democracy, how does this accusation by Wells in feigned support of Minnis rise to the level of potentially threatening our entire nation's future? Take another facet of this battle: Loretta-Butler Turner is a female politician, who has been under sustained slanderous attack by the men of her party and the men those men engage to do their dirty work. Why is this not seen as a threat to our nation in terms of gender relations? Simply seeking to understand the rationale here. Are you saying that Wells' comments and Minnis' refusal to condemn them, threaten to make the FNM look racist? Are you saying that you believe this will cause Bahamians to believe the FNM hates white people?
Perhaps what Godson means by "pure" is not in a purist sense, but in the sense as we tend to define it. For instance, if your mother and father are white, you would likely identify and be identified as white. If one parent is black and the other white, the identification may be "mixed". He can ofcourse speak for himself on what he meant, but this is what I personally got from his reply to me.
@TruePeople - thank you very much. People think that by acknowledging reality you are condoning all the aspects therein. That is not at all necessarily the case. But what is roundly unhealthy in my opinion, is to deny reality and then try to make people live in submission or direction to one's denial and delusions.
Interesting perspective. And then the Tribune has its own life story about race as well, but I imagine my commentary on that might get blocked by the admins, so I shall leave it there. Suffice to say, race for many of us, is more than skin deep.
Publius says...
Can someone be kind enough to wake me when real news becomes headline news? Appreciate it, because it has long since been obvious that any nobody in front of a microphone with an agenda can qualify for media domination. And I'm referring to Wells by the way.
On FNM rejects ‘racist’ claim
Posted 12 February 2016, 9:41 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
One thing I noticed though and I'm curious. Why didn't Brent defend Lightbourne's character, affirming that he, to his knowledge, is not a racist? No, he is not Lightborne's spokesperson, but he has chosen to comment on the issue. Just wondered why he did not defend him. He spent most of the quoted interview speaking about himself.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 9:24 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
I honestly believe that he is not comfortable with the subject of race. Indeed, it can be a very uncomfortable discussion depending on how it goes, but I think he would rather it never be brought up at all because it is not something he wants to face in whatever political aspirations he has. But that is simply not realistic thinking on his part.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 5:21 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
This is true, and indeed sad as you said.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 5:15 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
I understand your perspective, but to be fair to the discussion on the Grand Bahama matter, that particular hotelier needed to be dealt with regarding his treatment of staff there years ago because the violations and complaints coming from that property are well documented and well known on that island. The government did not touch him before now presumably because it did not want to anger the new investors they were in bed with there at the time. Now, we are in an election year, so the government seems to have chosen to react for the look and the politics of it. The point I am making is, that issue in truth, was not simply about a rude white man who aggravated a few black Bahamians one night at an event.
We do have local Bahamian bosses who are pure trash. But they are Bahamian. This matter is an immigration matter as well as a labour matter. We have labour laws to protect all employees regardless of the employer, but there is also standard of conduct that is supposed to be observed by foreigners who are granted work and residency status in our country. Like everything else in this country ofcourse, few things are fair and balanced when it comes to enforcement or execution, but welcome to The Bahamas, as they say!
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 5:11 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
And my question to you remains - why is this same concern not being expressed for gender relations? Do you see what Minnis has done to many of the office-holding women of the FNM, one of whom, like Lightbourne, is also an elected Member of Parliament? Many of the men of that party believe she ought not seek to lead simply and only because she is a woman. She is having her character besmirched as well, and many of the attacks are gender-based. The men of the FNM have disrespected an entire island of Bahamians simply because they are represented by this female who her male colleagues hate and are threatened by. Why is an attack on female legislators (House and Senate) not a reason to see this as the beginning of the end for The Bahamas, like you view the Lightbourne situation? And the difference here is, Wells is the one doing the attacking and Minnis is silently giving consent. With the women of the FNM, Minnis is the hatchet man himself.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 4:56 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
And where in what I said refutes or runs counter to what you just said sir? What you just said is what I have already said here on multiple occasions. My commentary is not about whether Minnis should remain on as leader of the FNM. My commentary is about the lack of genuineness about this issue on multiple sides as it pertains strictly to the issue of race.
Not sure where Rolle factors into this. Her inane rant had nothing to do with race, just her spouting off in defence of his indefensible leader's neuroticism about this post he seems to love more than life itself.
There is one point you raised here that I find curious. Why is Wells' attack on Lightborne something that threatens the future of the Commonwealth of The Bahamas? In all that has been going in with this disgraceful FNM infighting and its disgracefully poor performance as opposition in our democracy, how does this accusation by Wells in feigned support of Minnis rise to the level of potentially threatening our entire nation's future? Take another facet of this battle: Loretta-Butler Turner is a female politician, who has been under sustained slanderous attack by the men of her party and the men those men engage to do their dirty work. Why is this not seen as a threat to our nation in terms of gender relations? Simply seeking to understand the rationale here. Are you saying that Wells' comments and Minnis' refusal to condemn them, threaten to make the FNM look racist? Are you saying that you believe this will cause Bahamians to believe the FNM hates white people?
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 4:35 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
Perhaps what Godson means by "pure" is not in a purist sense, but in the sense as we tend to define it. For instance, if your mother and father are white, you would likely identify and be identified as white. If one parent is black and the other white, the identification may be "mixed". He can ofcourse speak for himself on what he meant, but this is what I personally got from his reply to me.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 4:19 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
@TruePeople - thank you very much. People think that by acknowledging reality you are condoning all the aspects therein. That is not at all necessarily the case. But what is roundly unhealthy in my opinion, is to deny reality and then try to make people live in submission or direction to one's denial and delusions.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 4:15 p.m. Suggest removal
Publius says...
Interesting perspective. And then the Tribune has its own life story about race as well, but I imagine my commentary on that might get blocked by the admins, so I shall leave it there. Suffice to say, race for many of us, is more than skin deep.
On ‘Time to stop using the race card in politics’
Posted 11 February 2016, 4:13 p.m. Suggest removal