In case you haven't been on planet earth for the past 20 years. Yes I am saying that our legal system is a joke a shambles more like. It is ineffective, slow and grossly inefficient. You mention the Randy Frazier case as an analogy, but there is no analogy to be made. The Frasier matter was a personal matter regarding his own lewd and disgusting acts with a minor.The judgement was made against him not the church. So you are comparing apples with oranges my friend. Second, the Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic and Anglican churches etc operate schools in the country. We all know that there are rules for each system. If we don't like them then don't send your kids there. There are several other private schools that are not church linked. So we do have choices. But back to my initial point. This matter can be solved if the parents simply tried to do things with a little more strategy. They are all in the media spouting off about law suits. We really need to stop watching so much crap American entertainment.
Hahaha, where are you living? What court or judge in this country will demand a huge settlement from any church in this country? The point that I was making previously is that the talk on the matter is too loose and rowdy. But that's the way we love things in this country. Then we find some jumped up young lawyer looking to build a practice to take the case. Go to court then I hope there is another lesson to be learned there.
And Tal you look like you don't know where to stand. Mix up like conch salad as usual.
The saga continues. They should get the money back I think. But going to court really doesn't solve anything. Who's paying the lawyer? Anyway, by the time it reaches court it will be mid July early August. Folks just need to calm down with all the legal talk. Get your money back, pick up your diplomas and move on. College, life, family, work awaits you. Don't get caught up on ceremony and small bumps in the road. As unfair as it may seem, the students will all come yo realize that we live in an unfair world. Not everything can or will go our way. Disappointing yes, frustrating I'm sure but, try not to dwell on it. Enjoy your summer and get ready for life.
By the way as you get older you realize how stupid prom really is. I went to my prom and I can't remember one thing about it. Even after all the fanfare of photos, car, suit etc. An absolute waste of time, money and energy.
They are still graduating. Just without the ceremony. Its funny. When the church doesn't take a stand we say they play a role in creating our social ills. When it does take a stand we act the fool and run out on tv and go on about law suits. They could have just as easily come together and try to speak to the Bishop one on one. The board made the decision and although he may have delivered the verdict I'm sure there was some consensus by the board members. But from the Cable 12 report the parents and the children behaved like a disrespectful mob. There is a way to do things and I wouldn't have gone near that mob activity even if my kids were involved.
Now we see what fuels the crime and nonsense in this country. Parents. They say why didn't the school stop them while on parade? But why didn't the parents of these children stop them from the lewd acts? They were on the parade as well. Like most private church schools in the country SJC has rules. If you don't like the rules then don't go there. Simple.
Why is Butler-Turner always involved in these events in the house? Rollins was wrong to approach her and should have leave it be. But besides that, all these big blow ups in the house seem to involve LBT. Its one thing to be aggressive on the issues that we face as a nation, its another to be personally agressive towards each other. The whole lot of them need to just stay away from politics. We've been recycling politicians over and over again for the past 20+ years. Sick of the FNM. Sick of the PLP
@Thisours. I couldn't agree more with your sentiments. Many of the people appointed to these very demanding positions are simply not up to the task. Governance and public policy is arguably one of the most challenging careers one can choose. It requires a sharp mind and discretion. Personally I think Bell should use this time as a learning period and really focus on behind the scenes policy initiatives.
Avoid the day to day politics. Leave that for the minister BJ to handle. Just dig your heels in and work work work. No need to talk. Let the results speak for themselves. Although I admit, that it is always hard to quantify success in crime fighting. Its not all black and white so to speak. There are a lot of grey areas and the decisions are not always easy. But I think people get annoyed when public officials make these broad and general comments about crime strategy. A big fanfare and media hype when day after day families must endure the horrors of crime in the country. Its best to use discretion and caution when announcing these strategies. In the end it will all descend into a political tool anyway. Lest we forget that we are a tribal people. We are either PLP or FNM, Valley or Saxons. No room for those of us with different views it seems.
Yep, no cohesiveness at all it seems. If the PLP would fix simple things we would be happy. I still can't understand why they try to do so much. Target 2 or 3 big projects and run with it. They trying to tackle a million things all at once to seem busy. As I've said before these scandals are a distraction to the work we need to do in this country. Let's quickly deal with it and move on.
So unfortunate. Its like we are losing so many of our young people to crime. Either they're in prison or in the grave. But, innocent until proven guilty.
Again some great comments. I've said it before and will say again. Bahamians behave in a tribal manner and our sense of reason seems to fly right out the window with politics. But the reality is that we don't enforce rules in this country. In clear cases of misconduct we need to start demanding jail time. The Jesse Jackson Jr case in the US is a good example of how we need to behave. He and his wife were found to be inappropriately using campaign funds and have been found guilty of such. They now await sentencing. With all these crazy scandals in both the FNM and the PLP nobody is ever held responsible. Not every misgiving or mistake warrants criminal charges but firings and resignations need to prevail. We talk about hanging being a deterrent to crime. What's the deterrent to encourage politicians and civil servants to stop their scheming and games?
Stapedius says...
In case you haven't been on planet earth for the past 20 years. Yes I am saying that our legal system is a joke a shambles more like. It is ineffective, slow and grossly inefficient. You mention the Randy Frazier case as an analogy, but there is no analogy to be made. The Frasier matter was a personal matter regarding his own lewd and disgusting acts with a minor.The judgement was made against him not the church. So you are comparing apples with oranges my friend. Second, the Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic and Anglican churches etc operate schools in the country. We all know that there are rules for each system. If we don't like them then don't send your kids there. There are several other private schools that are not church linked. So we do have choices. But back to my initial point. This matter can be solved if the parents simply tried to do things with a little more strategy. They are all in the media spouting off about law suits. We really need to stop watching so much crap American entertainment.
On Parents to sue over cancelled graduation
Posted 19 June 2013, 8:22 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
Hahaha, where are you living? What court or judge in this country will demand a huge settlement from any church in this country? The point that I was making previously is that the talk on the matter is too loose and rowdy. But that's the way we love things in this country. Then we find some jumped up young lawyer looking to build a practice to take the case. Go to court then I hope there is another lesson to be learned there.
And Tal you look like you don't know where to stand. Mix up like conch salad as usual.
On Parents to sue over cancelled graduation
Posted 19 June 2013, 4:37 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
The saga continues. They should get the money back I think. But going to court really doesn't solve anything. Who's paying the lawyer? Anyway, by the time it reaches court it will be mid July early August. Folks just need to calm down with all the legal talk. Get your money back, pick up your diplomas and move on. College, life, family, work awaits you. Don't get caught up on ceremony and small bumps in the road. As unfair as it may seem, the students will all come yo realize that we live in an unfair world. Not everything can or will go our way. Disappointing yes, frustrating I'm sure but, try not to dwell on it. Enjoy your summer and get ready for life.
By the way as you get older you realize how stupid prom really is. I went to my prom and I can't remember one thing about it. Even after all the fanfare of photos, car, suit etc. An absolute waste of time, money and energy.
On Parents to sue over cancelled graduation
Posted 19 June 2013, 3:40 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
They are still graduating. Just without the ceremony. Its funny. When the church doesn't take a stand we say they play a role in creating our social ills. When it does take a stand we act the fool and run out on tv and go on about law suits. They could have just as easily come together and try to speak to the Bishop one on one. The board made the decision and although he may have delivered the verdict I'm sure there was some consensus by the board members. But from the Cable 12 report the parents and the children behaved like a disrespectful mob. There is a way to do things and I wouldn't have gone near that mob activity even if my kids were involved.
On Bishop stands firm over graduation cancellation
Posted 18 June 2013, 8:13 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
Now we see what fuels the crime and nonsense in this country. Parents. They say why didn't the school stop them while on parade? But why didn't the parents of these children stop them from the lewd acts? They were on the parade as well. Like most private church schools in the country SJC has rules. If you don't like the rules then don't go there. Simple.
On Uproar over decision to cancel graduation
Posted 17 June 2013, 6:09 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
Why is Butler-Turner always involved in these events in the house? Rollins was wrong to approach her and should have leave it be. But besides that, all these big blow ups in the house seem to involve LBT. Its one thing to be aggressive on the issues that we face as a nation, its another to be personally agressive towards each other. The whole lot of them need to just stay away from politics. We've been recycling politicians over and over again for the past 20+ years. Sick of the FNM. Sick of the PLP
On FNM deputy slaps PLP MP in House
Posted 12 June 2013, 3:13 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
@Thisours. I couldn't agree more with your sentiments. Many of the people appointed to these very demanding positions are simply not up to the task. Governance and public policy is arguably one of the most challenging careers one can choose. It requires a sharp mind and discretion. Personally I think Bell should use this time as a learning period and really focus on behind the scenes policy initiatives.
Avoid the day to day politics. Leave that for the minister BJ to handle. Just dig your heels in and work work work. No need to talk. Let the results speak for themselves. Although I admit, that it is always hard to quantify success in crime fighting. Its not all black and white so to speak. There are a lot of grey areas and the decisions are not always easy. But I think people get annoyed when public officials make these broad and general comments about crime strategy. A big fanfare and media hype when day after day families must endure the horrors of crime in the country. Its best to use discretion and caution when announcing these strategies. In the end it will all descend into a political tool anyway. Lest we forget that we are a tribal people. We are either PLP or FNM, Valley or Saxons. No room for those of us with different views it seems.
On Why has Bell been left out of the picture?
Posted 2 June 2013, 1:08 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
Yep, no cohesiveness at all it seems. If the PLP would fix simple things we would be happy. I still can't understand why they try to do so much. Target 2 or 3 big projects and run with it. They trying to tackle a million things all at once to seem busy. As I've said before these scandals are a distraction to the work we need to do in this country. Let's quickly deal with it and move on.
On Decision due to ‘breach of confidentiality’
Posted 18 May 2013, 4:59 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
So unfortunate. Its like we are losing so many of our young people to crime. Either they're in prison or in the grave. But, innocent until proven guilty.
On FOUR CHARGED WITH MURDER OF AMERICAN TOURIST
Posted 18 May 2013, 4:47 p.m. Suggest removal
Stapedius says...
@Thisisours
Again some great comments. I've said it before and will say again. Bahamians behave in a tribal manner and our sense of reason seems to fly right out the window with politics. But the reality is that we don't enforce rules in this country. In clear cases of misconduct we need to start demanding jail time. The Jesse Jackson Jr case in the US is a good example of how we need to behave. He and his wife were found to be inappropriately using campaign funds and have been found guilty of such. They now await sentencing. With all these crazy scandals in both the FNM and the PLP nobody is ever held responsible. Not every misgiving or mistake warrants criminal charges but firings and resignations need to prevail. We talk about hanging being a deterrent to crime. What's the deterrent to encourage politicians and civil servants to stop their scheming and games?
On Christie: FNM has no moral authority to accuse PLP
Posted 16 May 2013, 6:11 p.m. Suggest removal