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ThisIsOurs says...

I dont think it's just the PLP.

Remember the statement made when we found out carnival was paying the ruling party to facilitate their operation? in other countries this "exchange" between a govt and a potential investor would be called a dirty word. In the Bananas it was described as "*when they in is their turn and when we in is our turn*". Then we want people to believe we not corrupt.

The carnival saga was brushed aside as just an argument over some kiddie rides but I believe it goes to the heart of why nothing ever gets fixed. Each party, and some individuals, are too busy with making money off of investors. The cruise gat more expendable dollars than Toby. Look at the email exchange between Leslie Bethel and Liu asking for payment for and Im assuming what could be something as simple as a phone call to the PM or Sir Baltron. Who knows, this may be why Fitzgerald thought it was ok to ask Izmirilian for a *mere* 20,000 dollars for "nothing". Ive always said when new people get elected to parliament they must learn all the secrets then hurriedly shout, *quick, shut the door before everybody see*. Again with carnival it was said, "*yall didnt know? This was going on for years, its an understanding*". No, we didnt know, you hid it, cause you knew no right thinking Bahamian would think it was ok

ThisIsOurs says...

"*Workers in the program must have exhibited mastery of a minimum set of skills for each target skill they're enlisted for*"

Meaning dont waste the Master's time, the candidates must be highly skilled at specific tasks to be eligible to learn the master skill

On Skills transfer woe still a ‘sad reality’

Posted 21 December 2022, 4:28 a.m. Suggest removal

ThisIsOurs says...

Also if you're the Bahamian contractor on the project, your obligation as part of your final payment is to submit to the govt the highly technical skills completed and the name of the Bahamain who completed the work. The workers should have access to this report to ensure they're not excluded if they did work. And **again** the eligible skills for this reporting are selected beforehand you dont need to report someone who put up a door unless it's a **verry** unique door requiring extraordinary skill. This info could be put in something as simple as an Excel spreadsheet. And again no faking data, it will hurt you in the end bolstering the foreign contractors argument for their people

On Skills transfer woe still a ‘sad reality’

Posted 21 December 2022, 4:13 a.m. Suggest removal

ThisIsOurs says...

So it's highly unlikely that someone will work themselves out of a job. Possible but not highly probable.

These guys want to stay in the Bahamas, who can blame them? Beaucoup dollars in paradise and treated like a king wherever you go? I know someone who rode it out for 20 years *strategically* **not** transfering skills. So after 50 years, what are you gonna do, continue the same non working approach?

Instead of complaining about the man who looking after his interests, why not hire a man whose only job on the project IS to transfer skills? Pick 3 master crafts and 5 people to learn each. Just guessing numbers, you know the industry, you fix it.

He shadows the master craftsman, he has a list of skills to transfer and his compensation is based on whether workers can demonstrate that they have learned the skill. And you have to work out what that realistically means **beforehand**. Workers in the program must have exhibited mastery of a minimum set of skills for each target skill they're enlisted for. He **cannot** get an extended work permit or residency after the project. And no funny business inflating numbers and costs, you'll be shooting yourself in the foot and scuttling the objective.

Yes it will be more costly initially, but in the end you actually have skills transferred as opposed to this "other".

On Skills transfer woe still a ‘sad reality’

Posted 21 December 2022, 4:06 a.m. Suggest removal

ThisIsOurs says...

**As to "what was wrong" (...yes, reading comprehension is an issue). Alledged collusion between the govt, CCA and Export Import Bank to the disadvantage of Izmirilian IS the foundation of the lawsuit. Its appears that Bethel was the conduit i.e. the go between

ThisIsOurs says...

lol.

Did you fail reading comprehension? Literally the entire story was about the actual communications from a CCA senior executive detailing his attempts to "work with" the "govt", (in Bahamian parlance that means the PM Mr Christie), by approaching and paying Leslie Bethel as an intermediary, Bethel who just happened to be the son of Sir Baltron Bethel, senior advisor to Perry Christie. Christie is in the story because that's the story, there's no "somehow". Weirdly enough it appears Izmirilian also approached Bethel for the same reason. How all these people is know who has access to the sitting PM? Carnival had someone working for them too. Nygard had Shane.

ThisIsOurs says...

unfortunately we will have no say. the market will determine if it has any confidence. And nothing our govt has said to date, "*we did everything right*", inspires confidence

ThisIsOurs says...

can you give more info on a sea cucumbers brains? On a scale of... oh **-0** to 10?

ThisIsOurs says...

*Tribune Business previously revealed that how CCA paid $2.4m to Mr Bethel's company, Notarc Management Group, and threw business its way at the Baha Mar dispute's peak*

*We [have] postponed our ground opening (originally by 6/1) till Heads of Agreement agreed, and considering downsizing the development. I am afraid it will hit to [the] press soon. I believe this is not what the Prime Minister want. Can you help?"..Bethel replied three days later, saying he would "like to assist" but that himself and Notarc wanted to charge CCA for help with the contractor's "advice and interaction with The Bahamas"*

*July 6, 2015, **e-mail written by Mr Liu** to his fellow executives shortly after Baha Mar and Mr Izmirlian had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.... We should take advantage of the Bahamas government. **If the Government, Export-Import Bank of China and CCA join forces, we can turn passive into active**."*

*Leslie Bethel also worked from 2006-2008 as a “business development consultant” for Baha Mar Development Corporation, Baha Mar's predecessor entity that was controlled by Mr Izmirlian*

Nothing like experience to let you know how things work in the Bananas

ThisIsOurs says...

It's really odd that an experienced lawyer oversaw all of this