This continuous arguement about the children is always emotional. Children should not be used as a passport
In Haitian culture children are given away as retyavek or some word like that where the child is expected to enjoy a better life raised by more prosperous family. Sadly they wind up as slaves and exploited. Haitians know this that is why the argument is raised by the parents to remain with the children even though they rxpect to do so illegally and without a work permit or any form of legal pspers.
Leaving the children back to essentially raise themselves can be seen in the numbers of criminals with haitian names. raising the chidren with all the free lunches, uniforms books rtc comes back to un when they show up at haitian flag day in the gardens wearing the haitian tee shirt and flying haitian flags on cars going right past police.
What is a major security concern given the unregulated illegal settlement is that when they can afford boats they will be travelling over to Florida.
Bahamian officials usually depprt say 27 men and 17 women but no children? Investoghations should happen to see if any bribes or phone cards excjsnged to see hpw the children got left behind.
Major security concerns arise when there is a large illegal and unknown unified population within any spverign mation.ironic we sing about cookoo soup.
major flaws on our anyiquated system like the small neespaper ads requesting feedback if they know of the person whose name appears...and to be living in some p.o. box......the po boxes belong to some one else as many bahamians shate the same po box......noone knows today wje actually knows you by a box #... also who knows you by some haitian name?..eccept anothet Haitian how can one tell wothout seeing a photo in the ad.?.?......how many haitians have now adopted some bahamian name like johnson, mackey etc .....joke the illegal student yried uding lockhart and was soon discoveref as all the lockharts know each other.
when sending them back give them lectures and bags of condoms and birth control statidtically high probability we will be soon colonized with proactice measires.
The records exist and an investigatipn must happen and where fraud is discovered yhey must be punishef
Wasnt Demeritte who served as High Commissioner representing Our Bahamas only just the former Chairman of the Bank of the Bahamas?
Passing one over to to another òposition to get a personal employment benefit should not be fostered onto the people and at theor expense without the peoples apprpval.
If the bosses do not want you in a position they should say so and lay you off like the pore black employee at the bottom of the ladder and with what is the law your entitlements. If there are any disagreements then try finding some lawyer to go up agsinst the govt just as you would have the pore black man do.
Another point is that if anyone has some disagreement with some official they should say so whichevet side of the parliamentryntable they are priviliged to be serving the people from.
If he was not a pore black man and if he was some banker and had given out a loan for a hundred thousand or more to someone who did not qualify he woild be straight. If he was alleged to have taken a bribe to approve some illegal act valued over 4,000 he would be at home with a new tv, If he was approving some fraudelent cheque in a bank he would have resigned or still be working. If the bsnk could not find where the money you deposited is they would have played with your head for weeks and put you to talk to everybody wearing all dress up in fancy clothes gettin( nowhere until you gave up and closed your account. When you balck an pore a tief a can of sardine you is all over the papers but if you bright and in some bank not even your neighbour knows you get ketch tiefin If the contractor had ripped you off for thousands of dollars the bank would have told you to pay your loan plus the contractor would not be answering the phone If the insurance premium was not paid because the standing order was not paid or if the govt paid you late believe uyou me you lapse. If some white collar criminal owes you thousands believe you me uou paying plenty to some lawyer plus you getting back 100 dollars a month for years. If some bank charging you 10 dollars to cash a cheque for a few dollars believe you me dog eat ya lunch If some govt agency or controlled section do you something wrong and if you just a pore black man with no family or friend you aint gat no hook up to help you dog eat ya lunch. If some bank do you some wrong you lose cause the Central Bank will tell you dey is only represent bank to bank transaction an you done a pore black man and done scrappin so you lose If some fancy doctor do you something wrong you better find another doctor if you can afford it cause dey all pick up fer each other. If you get ripped off by someone in a suit you know you gan buck up with all dey friends an famoly an dey church people an if you know you done pore an black den nothin happenin If some politician promise to do some thing to get elected an it aint done well you have to wait 5 yeats to vote again. If youse one big time govt official or special friend wjose in charge or director you never wrong cause you wears suit an tie even though foreogn white pele hav to tells ypur govt you is wrong you still strait. It just aint right it seems if you pore an black so yo is hav to do cause you is the first to get laid off, the lines is always longer, you is the first the govt gan cut the help dey give an back to cook outs, plenty other pore people done ahead an some even gettin paid less cause dey live in the shanty, so what is a pore black man hav to do? A jus crakin joke cas it ain so.
I will as a law abiding Bahamian support the PMs view in that we should have the final say but given the reality that there are few leaders and persons willing to also stand up and push in the same direction as the laws currently says is troubling. A referendum is necessary.
We still have the Bank of the Bahamas a bottomless money pit, highly qiestionalbe loans and not one single loan officer or bank offocial was ever found to have done anything wrong.
We have persons getting jail time for stealing a few cans of food or cell phone and getting jail time.
All the jail time for the pore Balck man while all these leaders of highly recognized influential groups, civic organizations and only the pore Black man going to jail and no white collar crime or criminals.
Prayers are with the missing newlyweds and their loved ones as ee all wish for a positive outcome. Couldnt have said it any better trussell Anything previous ownet(s) of the plane have to say. A man so loving his new wife would not endanger her in any way.
Bizzare wanting to use a scalpel and not a shotgun.Both are wrong instruments.
Given the IMF report and the dire economic conditions every Bahamian knew was coming eversince the first downgrades decade ago it is past due and that the economy patient in a wheelchhair is now in the morgue.
Its time for an electric saw to deal with the dead (cadaver).... deadweight that is and give the gun to the police.
Perhaps our PM can take the lead and in concert with all the sirrounding nations where Haitians have fled and impose economic and other concerns come up with sanctions or other measures to get the Haitian govt to do better.
Our Bahamas is a country of laws, a sovereign nation. Yes we are a third world nation not industtialized as many requiring a large unskilled labour force as do many industrialized countries. When we do require and obtain migrant lsbour we do so in an internationally accepted level for at least the past 72 years. We are a small nation and unchecked and mass build ups of illegal migrant population are a security, economic and socio economic concerrn.
A full comprehension of the titled story is to give a humane and caring way for those who invaded our country to leave.
Naturally it has always been humane some incidents qiestionable and the accused tried. Caring yes and all things relative. We cannot of find it financially challenging to provide enough beds in PMH for the sick or provide enough food vouchers to feed our poor but we have a Detention Centre with food and beds for those who break our laws.
Many actually believe we have been too caring and now are finally bancrupt from our caring for the citizens of other country while oir own citizens suffer.
Over abundance of cheap labour does not allow for supply and demand to find equilibrium and cheap unlivable wages cannot do for Bahamians to live in low cost unregulated shanty towns. Free schooling, medical facilities, good roads, transportation, crime free compared to countries they have left, lax apprehension laws, local support from fellow sympathisers, alleged curruption to get papers and to get straight, and a free jet plane ride etc used to be with a gift of 100 dollars to be deported make this illegal journey a winwinwinwinwin all ways around very inviting. Just look at the continuous repeat increased return rate.
Its time for all to do a little more to protect the soverignity and laws for the flag they proudly wear on their suits.
Our laws must be followed it is nothing new, it has always been there.
When seeing the untold damage illegal migrants it is time for anyone to protect our sovereign nation oir beloved Bahamaland the only country we know enyoying the freedoms our forefathers have struggled and sacrificed to bequeth to us their english speaking decrndants and our history
Before being deported persons must be given lectures on our laws, soverignity how our forefathers fought civil disobedience to have us obtain democracy. Lectures should be given on hygene etc, birth control, family plannjng, so that their countrymen and leaders get the message. Just like Bahamians who have a say like we do for our leaders we must encourage their people to do the same given this opportunity.
We must educate the illegal migrants with lectures before we send them back. We have an obligation to help. Teach a man to fish....
Hope our govt follows through and continues consistant vigilance.
bogart says...
We have seen apicture of our Bahamian flag mashed up in the mud.
We have spent 300,000,000 in education budget for some 60,000 students or 1,666 per student per term to educate many children of illegal parents.
We even paid their light bill for those who were left behind when the Farm went bancrupt even when Bahamians were getting their light cut off.
We have seen fellow Bahamians cannot get full medical attention because there is little money.
We have pumped well water for our hygene as we live next to illegal shantytowns with lactrines amd outhouses illegally built
And, and, and and now they threatening our democratically elected Prime Minister os our sovereogn nation.....well mudda tek sic.
On Haitians warn PM over exit deadline
Posted 16 October 2017, 2:45 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
This continuous arguement about the children is always emotional. Children should not be used as a passport
In Haitian culture children are given away as retyavek or some word like that where the child is expected to enjoy a better life raised by more prosperous family. Sadly they wind up as slaves and exploited. Haitians know this that is why the argument is raised by the parents to remain with the children even though they rxpect to do so illegally and without a work permit or any form of legal pspers.
Leaving the children back to essentially raise themselves can be seen in the numbers of criminals with haitian names. raising the chidren with all the free lunches, uniforms books rtc comes back to un when they show up at haitian flag day in the gardens wearing the haitian tee shirt and flying haitian flags on cars going right past police.
What is a major security concern given the unregulated illegal settlement is that when they can afford boats they will be travelling over to Florida.
Bahamian officials usually depprt say 27 men and 17 women but no children? Investoghations should happen to see if any bribes or phone cards excjsnged to see hpw the children got left behind.
Major security concerns arise when there is a large illegal and unknown unified population within any spverign mation.ironic we sing about cookoo soup.
major flaws on our anyiquated system like the small neespaper ads requesting feedback if they know of the person whose name appears...and to be living in some p.o. box......the po boxes belong to some one else as many bahamians shate the same po box......noone knows today wje actually knows you by a box #...
also who knows you by some haitian name?..eccept anothet Haitian how can one tell wothout seeing a photo in the ad.?.?......how many haitians have now adopted some bahamian name like johnson, mackey etc .....joke the illegal student yried uding lockhart and was soon discoveref as all the lockharts know each other.
when sending them back give them lectures and bags of condoms and birth control statidtically high probability we will be soon colonized with proactice measires.
The records exist and an investigatipn must happen and where fraud is discovered yhey must be punishef
On Haitians warn PM over exit deadline
Posted 16 October 2017, 2:19 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
Wasnt Demeritte who served as High Commissioner representing Our Bahamas only just the former Chairman of the Bank of the Bahamas?
Passing one over to to another òposition to get a personal employment benefit should not be fostered onto the people and at theor expense without the peoples apprpval.
If the bosses do not want you in a position they should say so and lay you off like the pore black employee at the bottom of the ladder and with what is the law your entitlements. If there are any disagreements then try finding some lawyer to go up agsinst the govt just as you would have the pore black man do.
Another point is that if anyone has some disagreement with some official they should say so whichevet side of the parliamentryntable they are priviliged to be serving the people from.
On Greenslade assured his full pension
Posted 16 October 2017, 1:34 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
If he was not a pore black man and if he was some banker and had given out a loan for a hundred thousand or more to someone who did not qualify he woild be straight.
If he was alleged to have taken a bribe to approve some illegal act valued over 4,000 he would be at home with a new tv,
If he was approving some fraudelent cheque in a bank he would have resigned or still be working.
If the bsnk could not find where the money you deposited is they would have played with your head for weeks and put you to talk to everybody wearing all dress up in fancy clothes gettin( nowhere until you gave up and closed your account.
When you balck an pore a tief a can of sardine you is all over the papers but if you bright and in some bank not even your neighbour knows you get ketch tiefin
If the contractor had ripped you off for thousands of dollars the bank would have told you to pay your loan plus the contractor would not be answering the phone
If the insurance premium was not paid because the standing order was not paid or if the govt paid you late believe uyou me you lapse.
If some white collar criminal owes you thousands believe you me uou paying plenty to some lawyer plus you getting back 100 dollars a month for years.
If some bank charging you 10 dollars to cash a cheque for a few dollars believe you me dog eat ya lunch
If some govt agency or controlled section do you something wrong and if you just a pore black man with no family or friend you aint gat no hook up to help you dog eat ya lunch.
If some bank do you some wrong you lose cause the Central Bank will tell you dey is only represent bank to bank transaction an you done a pore black man and done scrappin so you lose
If some fancy doctor do you something wrong you better find another doctor if you can afford it cause dey all pick up fer each other.
If you get ripped off by someone in a suit you know you gan buck up with all dey friends an famoly an dey church people an if you know you done pore an black den nothin happenin
If some politician promise to do some thing to get elected an it aint done well you have to wait 5 yeats to vote again.
If youse one big time govt official or special friend wjose in charge or director you never wrong cause you wears suit an tie even though foreogn white pele hav to tells ypur govt you is wrong you still strait.
It just aint right it seems if you pore an black so yo is hav to do cause you is the first to get laid off, the lines is always longer, you is the first the govt gan cut the help dey give an back to cook outs, plenty other pore people done ahead an some even gettin paid less cause dey live in the shanty, so what is a pore black man hav to do? A jus crakin joke cas it ain so.
On Armed robbery accused breaks down in court
Posted 14 October 2017, 2:22 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
I will as a law abiding Bahamian support the PMs view in that we should have the final say but given the reality that there are few leaders and persons willing to also stand up and push in the same direction as the laws currently says is troubling. A referendum is necessary.
We still have the Bank of the Bahamas a bottomless money pit, highly qiestionalbe loans and not one single loan officer or bank offocial was ever found to have done anything wrong.
We have persons getting jail time for stealing a few cans of food or cell phone and getting jail time.
All the jail time for the pore Balck man while all these leaders of highly recognized influential groups, civic organizations and only the pore Black man going to jail and no white collar crime or criminals.
Have to play my KB and Bob Marley music.
On AG: Caribbean Court has not departed from Privy Council on death penalty
Posted 14 October 2017, 10:32 a.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
Prayers are with the missing newlyweds and their loved ones as ee all wish for a positive outcome. Couldnt have said it any better trussell
Anything previous ownet(s) of the plane have to say.
A man so loving his new wife would not endanger her in any way.
On US couple search: plane wheel found
Posted 13 October 2017, 6:50 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
Bizzare wanting to use a scalpel and not a shotgun.Both are wrong instruments.
Given the IMF report and the dire economic conditions every Bahamian knew was coming eversince the first downgrades decade ago it is past due and that the economy patient in a wheelchhair is now in the morgue.
Its time for an electric saw to deal with the dead (cadaver).... deadweight that is and give the gun to the police.
On Gov't not targeting IMF's $70m slash
Posted 13 October 2017, 6:31 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
Perhaps our PM can take the lead and in concert with all the sirrounding nations where Haitians have fled and impose economic and other concerns come up with sanctions or other measures to get the Haitian govt to do better.
On Get out: Minnis gives illegals exit deadline
Posted 13 October 2017, 2:15 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
Our Bahamas is a country of laws, a sovereign nation.
Yes we are a third world nation not industtialized as many requiring a large unskilled labour force as do many industrialized countries. When we do require and obtain migrant lsbour we do so in an internationally accepted level for at least the past 72 years.
We are a small nation and unchecked and mass build ups of illegal migrant population are a security, economic and socio economic concerrn.
A full comprehension of the titled story is to give a humane and caring way for those who invaded our country to leave.
On Get out: Minnis gives illegals exit deadline
Posted 13 October 2017, 12:46 p.m. Suggest removal
bogart says...
Naturally it has always been humane some incidents qiestionable and the accused tried. Caring yes and all things relative.
We cannot of find it financially challenging to provide enough beds in PMH for the sick or provide enough food vouchers to feed our poor but we have a Detention Centre with food and beds for those who break our laws.
Many actually believe we have been too caring and now are finally bancrupt from our caring for the citizens of other country while oir own citizens suffer.
Over abundance of cheap labour does not allow for supply and demand to find equilibrium and cheap unlivable wages cannot do for Bahamians to live in low cost unregulated shanty towns. Free schooling, medical facilities, good roads, transportation, crime free compared to countries they have left, lax apprehension laws, local support from fellow sympathisers, alleged curruption to get papers and to get straight, and a free jet plane ride etc used to be with a gift of 100 dollars to be deported make this illegal journey a winwinwinwinwin all ways around very inviting. Just look at the continuous repeat increased return rate.
Its time for all to do a little more to protect the soverignity and laws for the flag they proudly wear on their suits.
Our laws must be followed it is nothing new, it has always been there.
When seeing the untold damage illegal migrants it is time for anyone to protect our sovereign nation oir beloved Bahamaland the only country we know enyoying the freedoms our forefathers have struggled and sacrificed to bequeth to us their english speaking decrndants and our history
Before being deported persons must be given lectures on our laws, soverignity how our forefathers fought civil disobedience to have us obtain democracy. Lectures should be given on hygene etc, birth control, family plannjng, so that their countrymen and leaders get the message. Just like Bahamians who have a say like we do for our leaders we must encourage their people to do the same given this opportunity.
We must educate the illegal migrants with lectures before we send them back. We have an obligation to help. Teach a man to fish....
Hope our govt follows through and continues consistant vigilance.
On Migrants crackdown ‘humane and caring’
Posted 13 October 2017, 11:42 a.m. Suggest removal