OMG you are so clueless - I bet you have no idea more vaccinated people are dying of delta that unvaccinated in Uk... You probably think Israel is doing really great too...
332 kids died covid in the USA over 1.5 years... There is greater risk swimming, cancer, Suicide, Homocide, Flu or suffocation.. Please come back when you've done some research..
1 child child of 5 died in The Bahamas because of covid - how many have died in gun violence the last 12 months?
Actually Delta strain originated in India in October of last year (or least was first recognised there)...significance of that is that it infected nearly 700 million people (based on the seroprevalence reports) in 4-6 months but with only 300k deaths (possibly a few more undetected)..which statistically speaking is minor... India crushed the curve and did so without vaccines...
You mis my point in the data above - it's possible that these strains are not as strong before because we're seeing minimal death even within unvaccinated populations - England is a perfect example of this - the unvaccinated make up 80-90% of cases (possibly because vaccinated less likely to get tests) but case fatality rates is 0.0002% which is essentially statically zero.
Minnis let it go...there is no need for this. Take the W you did the best you could when there was limited data - now there is data - we know masks are pointless outside, pointless inside too, social distancing is pointless, lockdowns don't work, curfews are pointless, kids don't get sick and should be school...vaccines will help the elderly and vulnerable deal with sickness in the short term..pointless for the young and healthy..
So you have one job left - Focus on securing vaccines for those who want them and let the rest of the country rebuild and move on before another bloody h****cane (don't want say it loud) rips through here and adds to your woes...
Ministry of health at some point should admit covid is here to stay and that personal protection is not just about pharmaceuticals but wholistic health has a nation
I agree vulnerable have nothing to lose by being vaccinated. Just seem like that protection is fleeting. In Israel 14 people who were on their third booster still contracted cv19 and 2 died...I m beginning to think the mRNA technology is not effective as thought. Again people that are infected naturally have much stronger immune response and for longer. Perhaps infection and therapeutics is the safest way to confer lasting immunity. Iceland lead epidemiologist said as much and is now back peddling (obviously got a smack from someone...)
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how ridiculous it sounds to say that vaccination is the key to end the pandemic when there exists countries (Iceland, Seychelles, Gibraltar) that 90%+ vaccinated and have experienced their largest case loads ever in spite of the success of their vaccination success?!
The Vaccine Church will say look at deaths and hospitalisation - they're close zero - vaccines work - they decouple cases with death...If that the case then why are we still counting cases? Why does it matter to policy? Better question yet how do we know it's the vaccine that is responsible?
Take Finland just passing the peak of it's second highest wave. But Covid Deaths per day are the lowest they've ever been. 0 - 1 per day. Wow thats amazing surely they fully vaccinated most of their population? Nah - it's 25-30%...
Japan - historic cases, relatively very little death, vaccination rate mid 20%s..
UK Similar gig - under 50s unvaccinated, make up majority of the delta wave cases (though there is many breakthrough cases, overall fatality outcomes are minimal for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.
Europe has had below average excess mortality since feb but recorded over 305k covid deaths..
So possible vaccines are not the only factor (in spite of the policy play of most Govs)..could it just be Delta doesn't pack the punch as original strain? Decrease in vulnerable populations? Cause of death policy? Seasonality? Immunity from previous waves?
whogothere says...
OMG you are so clueless - I bet you have no idea more vaccinated people are dying of delta that unvaccinated in Uk... You probably think Israel is doing really great too...
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whogothere says...
OMG - LOL the poop you have plenty of!
332 kids died covid in the USA over 1.5 years... There is greater risk swimming, cancer, Suicide, Homocide, Flu or suffocation.. Please come back when you've done some research..
1 child child of 5 died in The Bahamas because of covid - how many have died in gun violence the last 12 months?
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whogothere says...
Thank you! Can you send a link - I have been saying this for weeks...but could only back it up by individual Hospital policies.
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whogothere says...
Actually Delta strain originated in India in October of last year (or least was first recognised there)...significance of that is that it infected nearly 700 million people (based on the seroprevalence reports) in 4-6 months but with only 300k deaths (possibly a few more undetected)..which statistically speaking is minor... India crushed the curve and did so without vaccines...
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Posted 9 August 2021, 11:46 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
The only thing more opaque than a 'war on terror' is a 'war on death'
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whogothere says...
You mis my point in the data above - it's possible that these strains are not as strong before because we're seeing minimal death even within unvaccinated populations - England is a perfect example of this - the unvaccinated make up 80-90% of cases (possibly because vaccinated less likely to get tests) but case fatality rates is 0.0002% which is essentially statically zero.
On 228 new cases of COVID-19
Posted 9 August 2021, 10:52 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Minnis let it go...there is no need for this. Take the W you did the best you could when there was limited data - now there is data - we know masks are pointless outside, pointless inside too, social distancing is pointless, lockdowns don't work, curfews are pointless, kids don't get sick and should be school...vaccines will help the elderly and vulnerable deal with sickness in the short term..pointless for the young and healthy..
So you have one job left - Focus on securing vaccines for those who want them and let the rest of the country rebuild and move on before another bloody h****cane (don't want say it loud) rips through here and adds to your woes...
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Posted 9 August 2021, 10:47 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
And BINGO was his name...
Ministry of health at some point should admit covid is here to stay and that personal protection is not just about pharmaceuticals but wholistic health has a nation
On 228 new cases of COVID-19
Posted 9 August 2021, 7:29 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
I agree vulnerable have nothing to lose by being vaccinated. Just seem like that protection is fleeting. In Israel 14 people who were on their third booster still contracted cv19 and 2 died...I m beginning to think the mRNA technology is not effective as thought. Again people that are infected naturally have much stronger immune response and for longer. Perhaps infection and therapeutics is the safest way to confer lasting immunity. Iceland lead epidemiologist said as much and is now back peddling (obviously got a smack from someone...)
On 228 new cases of COVID-19
Posted 9 August 2021, 7:10 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how ridiculous it sounds to say that vaccination is the key to end the pandemic when there exists countries (Iceland, Seychelles, Gibraltar) that 90%+ vaccinated and have experienced their largest case loads ever in spite of the success of their vaccination success?!
The Vaccine Church will say look at deaths and hospitalisation - they're close zero - vaccines work - they decouple cases with death...If that the case then why are we still counting cases? Why does it matter to policy? Better question yet how do we know it's the vaccine that is responsible?
Take Finland just passing the peak of it's second highest wave. But Covid Deaths per day are the lowest they've ever been. 0 - 1 per day. Wow thats amazing surely they fully vaccinated most of their population? Nah - it's 25-30%...
Japan - historic cases, relatively very little death, vaccination rate mid 20%s..
UK Similar gig - under 50s unvaccinated, make up majority of the delta wave cases (though there is many breakthrough cases, overall fatality outcomes are minimal for both the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.
Europe has had below average excess mortality since feb but recorded over 305k covid deaths..
So possible vaccines are not the only factor (in spite of the policy play of most Govs)..could it just be Delta doesn't pack the punch as original strain? Decrease in vulnerable populations? Cause of death policy? Seasonality? Immunity from previous waves?
On 228 new cases of COVID-19
Posted 8 August 2021, 10:30 p.m. Suggest removal