Of all the industries the food stores have benefited the most. Why would they want the crisis to end. Millions of dollars have been spent by food by food banks, support families whose breadwinners are unemployed, pandemic has been kind to Mr Roberts...why stop the gravy train now..
Why? What government action culminating in the decrease in case in Nassau? Or any where in the Bahamas? End of August he was ready to the DF in the bay to lockdown NP hard. people rioted. The next day it was an about turn now lockdown marginal curfew. 1.5 month later cases crashed without change in policy. Nothing under the emergency powers brought about reduction cases. The virus burnt out plain and simple. You don’t need emergency powers for that.
These guys addicted to dictating... every morning I now eat popcorn for breakfast... the news and Minnis is a movie... comedy or tragedy? Still deciding...
He could literally have done nothing and it would have been better. Shut down country for 4 months for nothing. Minnis thought he was great but there was no wide spread testing. Bahamas went through the first wave with it’s eyes closed. Lives saved? none as as soon as he opened - bam - virus does what it does...Cases spiked (this time we had tests)...Havoc has been sown through action and inaction - in undiagnosed cancer, suicide, hunger, crime, stifling of education, bankruptcies...all because of the ‘competent authority’
Yep sounds about right. We don't need emergency powers for the flu (CDC IFR of covid are now lower than the flu) and we don't need it for COVID 19. The restrictions and regulations are not based in science, often contradictory and well just impractical...Plus they may have caused a slue of knock on lockdown deaths because people have not been able to travel or complete vital screenings and other diagnostic tests. The impact on children's education and life path is immeasurable but likely highly damaging. And well no need to mention the economy or food security... So yes we need to move beyond this and fast because at the end of the day this 99.9% survive covid.
John if you Tribune user name is so important to you - no worries - that don t change that fact that you have your facts muddled, confused and well...wrong..
(A). You cite Texas has being one of trump's effect states and yet he did not hold one rally there in 2020. He didn't travel North Dakota (which leads cases per capita) and only went once to South Dakota.
(b). You cite Texas as being a leader in cases yet it is ranked 26th when adjusted for population size.
(c). The single worst state for death and accounting for 15% of all deaths that occurred in US happened under Gov. Coumo watch and likely because of the decision he made regarding the placement of covid patients in care homes.
(d). Of the 10 ten worse hit states - as in those that have the highest death toll per capita (see 3.) - trump did not hold a campaign rally in any of them.
(e). Lockdowns/stay at home orders are the default position of politicians because they don't have anything else in their arsenal. Masks have not worked. Social distancing has not worked. The virus has done what the viruses do. Lockdowns is the only instrument they can control and hold but it doesn't work. And to the contrary it has yielded the potentially more catastrophic effect of killing people and crippling the economy. Excess mortality is up by 360k in the US but only 240k are attributable to covid, and of that 240k 96% had 2-3 other things killing them and had an average age of 75 (at life expectancy). Roughly 120k more people have died for because lockdown policy and that number keeps growing. While covid replaces Flu death, more more people are dying because of un diagnosis heart conditions, cancer, suicide, drug overdose. etc. So not only do lockdown not help cases as evidence in pretty everywhere that has had a huge lockdown it kills people to. In the uk lockdowns may have saved 17k but caused 16k indirectly.
John if you Tribune user name is so important to you - no worries - that change that fact that you have your facts muddled, confused and well...wrong..
(A). You cite Texas has being one of trump's effect states and yet he did not hold one rally there in 2020. He didn't travel North Dakota (which leads cases per capita) and only went once to South Dakota.
(b). You cite Texas as being a leader in cases yet it is ranked 26th when adjusted for population size.
(c). The single worst state for death and accounting for 15% of all deaths that occurred in US happened under Gov. Coumo watch and likely because of the decision he made regarding the placement of covid patients in care homes.
(d). Of the 10 ten worse hit states - as in those that have the highest death toll per capita (see 3.) - trump did not hold a campaign rally in any of them.
(e). Lockdowns/stay at home orders are the default position of politicians because they don't have anything else in there arsenal. Masks have not worked. Social distancing has not worked. The virus has done what the viruses do. Lockdowns is the only instrument they can control and hold but it doesn't work. And to contrary it has yielded the potentially more catastrophic effect of killing people and crippling the economy. Excess mortality is up by 360k in the US but only 240k are attributable to covid, and of that 240k 96% had 2-3 other things killing them and had an average age of 75 (at life expectancy). Roughly 120k more people have died for because lockdown policy and that number keeps growing. While covid replaces Flu death, more more people are dying because of un diagnosis heart conditions, cancer, suicide, drug overdose. etc. So not only do lockdown not help cases as evidence in pretty everywhere that has had a huge lockdown it kills people to. In the uk lockdowns may have saved 17k but caused 16k indirectly.
Johnny boy please get your fact fully primed before uttering BS...was trump simultaneously hitting every region with equal force? Case are up everywhere not just were he campaigned.
Seasonal situational variance has played a role as a significant amount of the population in the midwest involved in farming over the summer - therefore outdoors and less inclined to transmit the disease. What is interesting is now that harvest is complete, people are spending more time indoors, cases are spiking in remarkably similarity to harvest production. Rural counties are being hit hardest right now and it's not trump rallies. Don't mistake correlation with causality.
That is just hilarious John, you're really are full of it.
1. Every region in the US has had a surge...it's the Midwest turn. North East had it early, Sunbelt in the Summer and now it's hitting the Midwest. NY and NJ still hold the record for Corona death and that result is directly linked to the dire decision of NY governor to order COVID positive elderly back into their homes. Then again you must remember that 94% at last COVID deaths count were 2 or 3 dying of things. Oh and average age was 75 - same as life expectancy in the states. Aside from that, for the record I'm not a trump supporter but trying to pin Corona on his rallies is like trying saying it's Minnis's fault it's windy in the Bahamas today.
2. You say if US locked down like the rest of the world they'd be fine - well hmmmm I seem to remember several European countries locking down really hard and well guess what? Cases are going through the roof. And how do you explain Croatia, Sweden, Belarus, Japan, Nicaragua, Brazil? All with soft measures that have seen decreasing cases and death in spite of the absence of lockdowns and stiff restrictions. COVID cases and death are linked to age profile of the country, population density, cultural habits, the strength of the preceding flu season and the amount air pollution in the local. Lockdowns, Mask use and rallies have little to do with it.
whogothere says...
Of all the industries the food stores have benefited the most. Why would they want the crisis to end. Millions of dollars have been spent by food by food banks, support families whose breadwinners are unemployed, pandemic has been kind to Mr Roberts...why stop the gravy train now..
On ‘Extending powers is right’
Posted 20 November 2020, 7 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Why? What government action culminating in the decrease in case in Nassau? Or any where in the Bahamas? End of August he was ready to the DF in the bay to lockdown NP hard. people rioted. The next day it was an about turn now lockdown marginal curfew. 1.5 month later cases crashed without change in policy. Nothing under the emergency powers brought about reduction cases. The virus burnt out plain and simple. You don’t need emergency powers for that.
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Posted 20 November 2020, 6:55 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
These guys addicted to dictating... every morning I now eat popcorn for breakfast... the news and Minnis is a movie... comedy or tragedy? Still deciding...
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whogothere says...
It’s incompetent dictators that are problematic...blind leading the blind...
On PM intends to extend state of emergency till December 28th
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whogothere says...
He could literally have done nothing and it would have been better. Shut down country for 4 months for nothing. Minnis thought he was great but there was no wide spread testing. Bahamas went through the first wave with it’s eyes closed. Lives saved? none as as soon as he opened - bam - virus does what it does...Cases spiked (this time we had tests)...Havoc has been sown through action and inaction - in undiagnosed cancer, suicide, hunger, crime, stifling of education, bankruptcies...all because of the ‘competent authority’
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Posted 19 November 2020, 4:11 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Yep sounds about right. We don't need emergency powers for the flu (CDC IFR of covid are now lower than the flu) and we don't need it for COVID 19. The restrictions and regulations are not based in science, often contradictory and well just impractical...Plus they may have caused a slue of knock on lockdown deaths because people have not been able to travel or complete vital screenings and other diagnostic tests. The impact on children's education and life path is immeasurable but likely highly damaging. And well no need to mention the economy or food security... So yes we need to move beyond this and fast because at the end of the day this 99.9% survive covid.
On PM intends to extend state of emergency till December 28th
Posted 19 November 2020, 3:32 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
John if you Tribune user name is so important to you - no worries - that don t change that fact that you have your facts muddled, confused and well...wrong..
(A). You cite Texas has being one of trump's effect states and yet he did not hold one rally there in 2020. He didn't travel North Dakota (which leads cases per capita) and only went once to South Dakota.
(b). You cite Texas as being a leader in cases yet it is ranked 26th when adjusted for population size.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1...">https://www.statista.com/statistics/1...
(c). The single worst state for death and accounting for 15% of all deaths that occurred in US happened under Gov. Coumo watch and likely because of the decision he made regarding the placement of covid patients in care homes.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1...">https://www.statista.com/statistics/1...
(d). Of the 10 ten worse hit states - as in those that have the highest death toll per capita (see 3.) - trump did not hold a campaign rally in any of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...
(e). Lockdowns/stay at home orders are the default position of politicians because they don't have anything else in their arsenal. Masks have not worked. Social distancing has not worked. The virus has done what the viruses do. Lockdowns is the only instrument they can control and hold but it doesn't work. And to the contrary it has yielded the potentially more catastrophic effect of killing people and crippling the economy. Excess mortality is up by 360k in the US but only 240k are attributable to covid, and of that 240k 96% had 2-3 other things killing them and had an average age of 75 (at life expectancy). Roughly 120k more people have died for because lockdown policy and that number keeps growing. While covid replaces Flu death, more more people are dying because of un diagnosis heart conditions, cancer, suicide, drug overdose. etc. So not only do lockdown not help cases as evidence in pretty everywhere that has had a huge lockdown it kills people to. In the uk lockdowns may have saved 17k but caused 16k indirectly.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11...">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11...
https://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...">https://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...
On PM intends to extend state of emergency till December 28th
Posted 19 November 2020, 3:24 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
John if you Tribune user name is so important to you - no worries - that change that fact that you have your facts muddled, confused and well...wrong..
(A). You cite Texas has being one of trump's effect states and yet he did not hold one rally there in 2020. He didn't travel North Dakota (which leads cases per capita) and only went once to South Dakota.
(b). You cite Texas as being a leader in cases yet it is ranked 26th when adjusted for population size.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110…
(c). The single worst state for death and accounting for 15% of all deaths that occurred in US happened under Gov. Coumo watch and likely because of the decision he made regarding the placement of covid patients in care homes.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/110…
(d). Of the 10 ten worse hit states - as in those that have the highest death toll per capita (see 3.) - trump did not hold a campaign rally in any of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p…
(e). Lockdowns/stay at home orders are the default position of politicians because they don't have anything else in there arsenal. Masks have not worked. Social distancing has not worked. The virus has done what the viruses do. Lockdowns is the only instrument they can control and hold but it doesn't work. And to contrary it has yielded the potentially more catastrophic effect of killing people and crippling the economy. Excess mortality is up by 360k in the US but only 240k are attributable to covid, and of that 240k 96% had 2-3 other things killing them and had an average age of 75 (at life expectancy). Roughly 120k more people have died for because lockdown policy and that number keeps growing. While covid replaces Flu death, more more people are dying because of un diagnosis heart conditions, cancer, suicide, drug overdose. etc. So not only do lockdown not help cases as evidence in pretty everywhere that has had a huge lockdown it kills people to. In the uk lockdowns may have saved 17k but caused 16k indirectly.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101…
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-…
On PM intends to extend state of emergency till December 28th
Posted 19 November 2020, 3:23 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Johnny boy please get your fact fully primed before uttering BS...was trump simultaneously hitting every region with equal force? Case are up everywhere not just were he campaigned.
https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/r…
Also when you adjust for population size the increase become glaring obvious. Midwest is popping because it hasn't a wave like the other regions yet.
https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/r…
Seasonal situational variance has played a role as a significant amount of the population in the midwest involved in farming over the summer - therefore outdoors and less inclined to transmit the disease. What is interesting is now that harvest is complete, people are spending more time indoors, cases are spiking in remarkably similarity to harvest production. Rural counties are being hit hardest right now and it's not trump rallies. Don't mistake correlation with causality.
https://dailyyonder.com/new-rural-covid…
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Ma…
Finally see you have nothing to say about the efficacy of Lockdowns (or lack there of in other countries or mask use for that matter...
On PM intends to extend state of emergency till December 28th
Posted 19 November 2020, 1:19 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
That is just hilarious John, you're really are full of it.
1. Every region in the US has had a surge...it's the Midwest turn. North East had it early, Sunbelt in the Summer and now it's hitting the Midwest. NY and NJ still hold the record for Corona death and that result is directly linked to the dire decision of NY governor to order COVID positive elderly back into their homes. Then again you must remember that 94% at last COVID deaths count were 2 or 3 dying of things. Oh and average age was 75 - same as life expectancy in the states. Aside from that, for the record I'm not a trump supporter but trying to pin Corona on his rallies is like trying saying it's Minnis's fault it's windy in the Bahamas today.
2. You say if US locked down like the rest of the world they'd be fine - well hmmmm I seem to remember several European countries locking down really hard and well guess what? Cases are going through the roof. And how do you explain Croatia, Sweden, Belarus, Japan, Nicaragua, Brazil? All with soft measures that have seen decreasing cases and death in spite of the absence of lockdowns and stiff restrictions. COVID cases and death are linked to age profile of the country, population density, cultural habits, the strength of the preceding flu season and the amount air pollution in the local. Lockdowns, Mask use and rallies have little to do with it.
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