The thing is this 2020 story only points out one issue Wartsilla (finally spelled correctly) advised the govt against. We may not know, but it's in the realm of possibility that every single issue we're experiencing is because they ignored the advice of the suppliers. Cambridge already said *we're not experiencing the fuel savings anticipated* and I believe he linked that to modifications "*we*" made to the recommended design. "*Cutting corners*" as Mrs Deal put it.
**Bizarro world.** All of these problems originated from decisions made under Bannister. Just remember the *makeup* explanation
Repost from yesterday: *I hear this narrative that persons speaking out about known issues at BPL must have some hidden agenda because Warsilla couldnt have been dumb enough to install engines at an unsuitable location*
*My immediate thought was the persons pushing this line of reasoning cant have lived here for more than a day and do not realize that in this country politics overrides common sense, good governance and sometimes the law.*
*Here is an extract from a **February 2020** BPL/Warsilla **Tribune story***
*BPL race to fix new plant issue: Minister orders firm it must resolve cooling problem with engines*
*Bahamas Power & Light is racing against time to have its new $95m electricity plant ready to meet peak summer demand after plans for its cooling system literally hit the rocks.*
*Tribune Business can reveal that the state-owned utility’s scheme to cool the 132 mega watts of newly-installed generation capacity by digging four 800-foot deep wells at Clifton Pier is in danger of running aground because the area’s rock structures have proven far more difficult to penetrate than first thought.*
*BPL has so far managed to reach just over 50 percent of the target depth on two of the four wells and, with summer’s peak demand just three-and-a-half months away, it has ordered an alternative radiator system as a back-up in case the original strategy fails.*
*Several drill bits have already been broken in efforts to reach the required well depth, this newspaper has confirmed, with sources suggesting that only two of the seven Wartsila-supplied engines which comprise BPL’s new generation capacity are currently online and being used amid the wait for a cooling solution.*
***Tribune Business also understands that BPL management was advised against the well cooling solution by Wartsila, which URGED the state-owned utility to instead purchase a closed radiator system, but executives decided to press ahead despite the supplier’s recommendation. The drilling woes, though, have finally forced them to alter course.***
*And, besides the challenges in penetrating the rock, this newspaper was also told that decades of oil spills and other BPL-related pollution at Clifton Pier means that the water pulled up by the wells to-date us unusable because it contains multiple forms of waste and harmful chemicals.*
***Desmond Bannister, minister of works**, confirmed*
I should add, "*which shouldnt be*", politics (honest) should not interrupt your ability to make a livelihood unfortunately it does. It's a very bad thing
Has no relevance. BTC service was terrible at the time. Remember the common diagnosis "*water in the lines*" that could take months or never to resolve? One of the justifications for the sale **was** improved service.
I see them collecting money along the roadside on weekends. And I always wonder what sort of accounting goes into that given that Mr Bain was found squatting in a house out Cable Beach. (Open question on how he gained access to the house) But if he's destitute and people are willing to give him money no questions asked... its their money to give and he should be able to eat. I suppose it would be difficult for him to find employmemt
The issue clearly isnt what Warsilla is dumb enough to do, but what an administration under electorate pressure will order to be done despite all good evidence to the contrary.
I for one believe they would install 95m dollar engines on a foundation they knew had issues on a hope and a prayer that identified risks would never come to fruition. 2020 was a campaign year
Completely unrelated to shanty town issue. But **I hear this narrative that persons speaking out about known issues at BPL must have some hidden agenda because Warsilla couldnt have been dumb enough to install engines at an unsuitable location**
**My immediate thought was** the persons pushing this line of reasoning cant have lived here for more than a day and do not realize that **in this country politics overrides common sense, good governance and sometimes the law.**
Here is an extract from a **February 2020** BPL/Warsilla Tribune story
*BPL race to fix new plant issue: Minister orders firm it must resolve cooling problem with engines*
*Bahamas Power & Light is racing against time to have its new $95m electricity plant ready to meet peak summer demand after plans for its cooling system literally hit the rocks.*
***Tribune Business can reveal that the state-owned utility’s scheme to cool the 132 mega watts of newly-installed generation capacity by digging four 800-foot deep wells at Clifton Pier is in danger of running aground because the area’s rock structures have proven far more difficult to penetrate than first thought.***
*BPL has so far managed to reach just over 50 percent of the target depth on two of the four wells and, with summer’s peak demand just three-and-a-half months away, it has ordered an alternative radiator system as a back-up in case the original strategy fails.*
*Several drill bits have already been broken in efforts to reach the required well depth, this newspaper has confirmed, with sources suggesting that only two of the seven Wartsila-supplied engines which comprise BPL’s new generation capacity are currently online and being used amid the wait for a cooling solution.*
***Tribune Business also understands that BPL management was advised against the well cooling solution by Wartsila, which URGED the state-owned utility to instead purchase a closed radiator system, but executives decided to press ahead despite the supplier’s recommendation. The drilling woes, though, have finally forced them to alter course.**
*And, besides the challenges in penetrating the rock, this newspaper was also told that decades of oil spills and other BPL-related pollution at Clifton Pier means that the water pulled up by the wells to-date us unusable because it contains multiple forms of waste and harmful chemicals.*
*Desmond Bannister, minister of works, confirmed....*
Not speaking to any case details, but did the police give a statement? In a criminal matter isnt it odd that the first statement comes from the PM??? And everywhere else is crickets?unless I missed the statement from law enforcement also very *banana republickish* where political pressures rule law enforcement. All of this 2 whole weeks after the signal would have been given that there was indeed a legal case to answer.
The support from the Jamaica based customer service reps is remarkable. Pockets of the Bahamian staff on the other hand can be very dismissive, deceptive and passively aggressive. It's not every instance but one or two is sufficient to tarnish everybody. Poor service is a very very very common finding across the local service sector, multiple industries, even the hotels where workers receive the most intensive service training, its not only BTC. Rather than sticking their head in the sand, the union would do better to have an ongoing monitoring program for staff performance and proactively address these issues across departments before the company announces outsourcing initiatives
It's apparently less than 100k per year to support a GG (who serves for 5 years or less) for the rest of their life. A new car for every senior official every 5 years is less than 40k each?. What's the fuss? No need to be concerned, nothing to see. Wartsila engines in a building that's about to collapse? I wonder how much it would have cost to build a proper foundation? Nothing to see...
ThisIsOurs says...
The thing is this 2020 story only points out one issue Wartsilla (finally spelled correctly) advised the govt against. We may not know, but it's in the realm of possibility that every single issue we're experiencing is because they ignored the advice of the suppliers. Cambridge already said *we're not experiencing the fuel savings anticipated* and I believe he linked that to modifications "*we*" made to the recommended design. "*Cutting corners*" as Mrs Deal put it.
On Ex-DPM: ‘Disgraceful’ failure to improve BPL
Posted 10 August 2023, 4:06 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
**Bizarro world.** All of these problems originated from decisions made under Bannister. Just remember the *makeup* explanation
Repost from yesterday:
*I hear this narrative that persons speaking out about known issues at BPL must have some hidden agenda because Warsilla couldnt have been dumb enough to install engines at an unsuitable location*
*My immediate thought was the persons pushing this line of reasoning cant have lived here for more than a day and do not realize that in this country politics overrides common sense, good governance and sometimes the law.*
*Here is an extract from a **February 2020** BPL/Warsilla **Tribune story***
*BPL race to fix new plant issue: Minister orders firm it must resolve cooling problem with engines*
*Bahamas Power & Light is racing against time to have its new $95m electricity plant ready to meet peak summer demand after plans for its cooling system literally hit the rocks.*
*Tribune Business can reveal that the state-owned utility’s scheme to cool the 132 mega watts of newly-installed generation capacity by digging four 800-foot deep wells at Clifton Pier is in danger of running aground because the area’s rock structures have proven far more difficult to penetrate than first thought.*
*BPL has so far managed to reach just over 50 percent of the target depth on two of the four wells and, with summer’s peak demand just three-and-a-half months away, it has ordered an alternative radiator system as a back-up in case the original strategy fails.*
*Several drill bits have already been broken in efforts to reach the required well depth, this newspaper has confirmed, with sources suggesting that only two of the seven Wartsila-supplied engines which comprise BPL’s new generation capacity are currently online and being used amid the wait for a cooling solution.*
***Tribune Business also understands that BPL management was advised against the well cooling solution by Wartsila, which URGED the state-owned utility to instead purchase a closed radiator system, but executives decided to press ahead despite the supplier’s recommendation. The drilling woes, though, have finally forced them to alter course.***
*And, besides the challenges in penetrating the rock, this newspaper was also told that decades of oil spills and other BPL-related pollution at Clifton Pier means that the water pulled up by the wells to-date us unusable because it contains multiple forms of waste and harmful chemicals.*
***Desmond Bannister, minister of works**, confirmed*
On Ex-DPM: ‘Disgraceful’ failure to improve BPL
Posted 10 August 2023, 2:23 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
I should add, "*which shouldnt be*", politics (honest) should not interrupt your ability to make a livelihood unfortunately it does. It's a very bad thing
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ThisIsOurs says...
Has no relevance. BTC service was terrible at the time. Remember the common diagnosis "*water in the lines*" that could take months or never to resolve? One of the justifications for the sale **was** improved service.
On Union boss: BTC trying to make staff ‘look bad’
Posted 10 August 2023, 3:21 a.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
I see them collecting money along the roadside on weekends. And I always wonder what sort of accounting goes into that given that Mr Bain was found squatting in a house out Cable Beach. (Open question on how he gained access to the house) But if he's destitute and people are willing to give him money no questions asked... its their money to give and he should be able to eat. I suppose it would be difficult for him to find employmemt
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ThisIsOurs says...
The issue clearly isnt what Warsilla is dumb enough to do, but what an administration under electorate pressure will order to be done despite all good evidence to the contrary.
I for one believe they would install 95m dollar engines on a foundation they knew had issues on a hope and a prayer that identified risks would never come to fruition. 2020 was a campaign year
On Despite approval, shanty homes not demolished
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ThisIsOurs says...
Completely unrelated to shanty town issue. But **I hear this narrative that persons speaking out about known issues at BPL must have some hidden agenda because Warsilla couldnt have been dumb enough to install engines at an unsuitable location**
**My immediate thought was** the persons pushing this line of reasoning cant have lived here for more than a day and do not realize that **in this country politics overrides common sense, good governance and sometimes the law.**
Here is an extract from a **February 2020** BPL/Warsilla Tribune story
*BPL race to fix new plant issue: Minister orders firm it must resolve cooling problem with engines*
*Bahamas Power & Light is racing against time to have its new $95m electricity plant ready to meet peak summer demand after plans for its cooling system literally hit the rocks.*
***Tribune Business can reveal that the state-owned utility’s scheme to cool the 132 mega watts of newly-installed generation capacity by digging four 800-foot deep wells at Clifton Pier is in danger of running aground because the area’s rock structures have proven far more difficult to penetrate than first thought.***
*BPL has so far managed to reach just over 50 percent of the target depth on two of the four wells and, with summer’s peak demand just three-and-a-half months away, it has ordered an alternative radiator system as a back-up in case the original strategy fails.*
*Several drill bits have already been broken in efforts to reach the required well depth, this newspaper has confirmed, with sources suggesting that only two of the seven Wartsila-supplied engines which comprise BPL’s new generation capacity are currently online and being used amid the wait for a cooling solution.*
***Tribune Business also understands that BPL management was advised against the well cooling solution by Wartsila, which URGED the state-owned utility to instead purchase a closed radiator system, but executives decided to press ahead despite the supplier’s recommendation. The drilling woes, though, have finally forced them to alter course.**
*And, besides the challenges in penetrating the rock, this newspaper was also told that decades of oil spills and other BPL-related pollution at Clifton Pier means that the water pulled up by the wells to-date us unusable because it contains multiple forms of waste and harmful chemicals.*
*Desmond Bannister, minister of works, confirmed....*
On Despite approval, shanty homes not demolished
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ThisIsOurs says...
Not speaking to any case details, but did the police give a statement? In a criminal matter isnt it odd that the first statement comes from the PM??? And everywhere else is crickets?unless I missed the statement from law enforcement also very *banana republickish* where political pressures rule law enforcement. All of this 2 whole weeks after the signal would have been given that there was indeed a legal case to answer.
On Union boss: BTC trying to make staff ‘look bad’
Posted 9 August 2023, 12:39 p.m. Suggest removal
ThisIsOurs says...
The support from the Jamaica based customer service reps is remarkable. Pockets of the Bahamian staff on the other hand can be very dismissive, deceptive and passively aggressive. It's not every instance but one or two is sufficient to tarnish everybody. Poor service is a very very very common finding across the local service sector, multiple industries, even the hotels where workers receive the most intensive service training, its not only BTC. Rather than sticking their head in the sand, the union would do better to have an ongoing monitoring program for staff performance and proactively address these issues across departments before the company announces outsourcing initiatives
On Union boss: BTC trying to make staff ‘look bad’
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ThisIsOurs says...
It's apparently less than 100k per year to support a GG (who serves for 5 years or less) for the rest of their life. A new car for every senior official every 5 years is less than 40k each?. What's the fuss? No need to be concerned, nothing to see. Wartsila engines in a building that's about to collapse? I wonder how much it would have cost to build a proper foundation? Nothing to see...
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