Most comments here are based on political spin, don't fall for it: the pilots are doing an immaculate job, not one fatality from the time Bahamasair existed. Now compare this to the politicians Bahamasair have crashed and burned a long time ago under these non-practical people who are hijacking, crashing and burning down this country.
1. The DPM is being personal and political far from being honest and professional. 2. Take Bahamasair out of control of the government, their friends and over staffing of their constituents. 3. Downsizing of Bahamasair services, routs, employees is necessary including, partnership and flight sharing with other local carriers as well as technical services to other carriers.
Bahamasair is a viable service for this country and for this country remove the politics and friendship out of it and watch profits fly.
Air Jamaica is flying wide bodies all around the world out of Jamaica while Bahamasair is struggling with a few islands and a few cities in Florida, this is dispicable. Bahamasair can exists and function very profitably, get rid of the politics out of Bahamasair and every cooperation in this country.
We seem to be in love with the foreigners so maybe it would do better with a foreign government once again!
Look Mr Pinder jump ship for more money, he abandoned his post without anyone behind the wheel. He did this to help himself and was praised by the PM. So why on earth should these pilots or any are of service in this country do any different?
Regardless these matter should have been settled long before now in a professional and timely manner and it should have never come down to this in any way form or fashion.
The political arina have set a bad precedents, the timing of both engineers of BEC and the pilots of BahamasAir is a question of: 1. Credibility or the inability of our politicians to manage the affairs of this country in an effective and timely manner. 2. Or, Perhaps our politicians are so busy tryimg to distract us that they are so caught up in their own distractions that they never see whats coming?
It makes absolute no sense for the reporter to report fuel loaded to the aircraft without reporting the total amount of FOB (fuel on board) at the gate? Total FOB is released by the same person or company that loaded the fuel. So to ask and report fuel loaded instead of FOB would would be very poor and awkward journalism.
Many factors would have resulted to this crash, but drugs or alcohol check? Well, maybe its routine, but I don't think so, fatigue perhaps, but I believe the problem to be a desperate position based on insufficient fuel.
Lets go on the information released (by the media) such as, aircraft type, fuel and weather conditions assuming that the fog or clouds were some 300 or 400 feet from the ground. If the airport aircraft landing systems were out of service, and if the trip fuel was 160 gallons (16% fuel tank capacity) from the gate then approach and landing would have to be VOR (visual).
If this was the case, then the flight from NAS - FPO and one go around would have burn some 55% to 60% of the fuel. The remaining fuel on board would be some 40% of the fuel and would be insufficient to safely reach an alternate airport such as Nassau, Bimini or Fort Lauderdale. Returning to Nassau would have been on a wing and a prayer, but I don't see how it was possible to safely reach Nassau as an alternate airport.
If the numbers (informations) is correct you can do this calculation and test with a Flight Navigator and Microsoft Flight Simulator (it might not be exact but pretty close, much closer than feelings and speculations).
I am not trying to create assumption, but what happened is baffling. If the pilots flying this plane were not in charge and there were faith-base or back seat drivers, then the pilot could not make the decision as to what to do. This does not excuse the fact that this accident is a result of pilot error. Globally industry flight rules are simple and rules, regulations and routine safe guards do not change base on where you are. If the weather conditions were clear a visual approach would have been a routine landing. It was not.
Knowing the weather condition before leaving Nassau, the safety measure is to fuel the aircraft with as much fuel as possible to landing, at lease 20% of the fuel tank capacity. Why was it not done? This simple safe guard would have removed the desperate attempts to land instead of flying to an alternate airport. This was a flight of no return, based on the information reaching an alternate airport was a non-option.
It is wonderful that Mr Pinder found the opportunity to improve himself and his family. But he was called to a bigger mission to help improve the country's position in difficult times. Mr Pinder is gone and our position is the same, or worst.
Maybe we Bahamians can appreciate a government who leads a population of poor and naive group of people, but what about the global community? How much respect do they have for us? We don't have to look far to see that, just take a look at the respond coming in from the global community on the immigration matter.
If only our government think big that they will realize to serve one country in the capacity of a state office is an honor and privilege. If only they can see that their appointment is not one to improve their status alone but one that is much much bigger and greater that self, but one in which is to take our place in the world by earning the respect of the world.
That can only happen if we work for the common good of the entire country. That can only begin to happen by realizing that serving the country is a great opportunity to improve the status of all the people. The opportunity to raise the country to new heights. The opportunity to create a nation of quality, pride and privilege for all and this includes Mr Ryan and his family at the same time.
Mr Ryan we can become:
1. A government that represents a nation of wealthy and intelligent race of people. Thats a quality government.
Or settle for: 2. A government that is loved by its nation of poor and ignorant race of people. That's a poor government. 3. A government that is smiled on by a wealthy and privileged minority group of individuals. That's government that no one takes seriously.
Each step down is a downgrade, so tell me Mr Pinder which should we settle for?
ted4bz says...
Most comments here are based on political spin, don't fall for it: the pilots are doing an immaculate job, not one fatality from the time Bahamasair existed. Now compare this to the politicians Bahamasair have crashed and burned a long time ago under these non-practical people who are hijacking, crashing and burning down this country.
1. The DPM is being personal and political far from being honest and professional.
2. Take Bahamasair out of control of the government, their friends and over staffing of their constituents.
3. Downsizing of Bahamasair services, routs, employees is necessary including, partnership and flight sharing with other local carriers as well as technical services to other carriers.
Bahamasair is a viable service for this country and for this country remove the politics and friendship out of it and watch profits fly.
Air Jamaica is flying wide bodies all around the world out of Jamaica while Bahamasair is struggling with a few islands and a few cities in Florida, this is dispicable. Bahamasair can exists and function very profitably, get rid of the politics out of Bahamasair and every cooperation in this country.
We seem to be in love with the foreigners so maybe it would do better with a foreign government once again!
On Deputy PM hits out at 'corporate sabotage'
Posted 30 December 2014, 11:19 a.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
Look Mr Pinder jump ship for more money, he abandoned his post without anyone behind the wheel. He did this to help himself and was praised by the PM. So why on earth should these pilots or any are of service in this country do any different?
Regardless these matter should have been settled long before now in a professional and timely manner and it should have never come down to this in any way form or fashion.
The political arina have set a bad precedents, the timing of both engineers of BEC and the pilots of BahamasAir is a question of:
1. Credibility or the inability of our politicians to manage the affairs of this country in an effective and timely manner.
2. Or, Perhaps our politicians are so busy tryimg to distract us that they are so caught up
in their own distractions that they never see whats coming?
This country is on automatic.
On [img/photos/2014/12/23/BAHA_1307.1_t670.3.jpg]
Posted 23 December 2014, 1:40 p.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
http://www.wunderground.com/history/air…
On Crash probe puts focus on pilots
Posted 16 December 2014, 9 a.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
It makes absolute no sense for the reporter to report fuel loaded to the aircraft without reporting the total amount of FOB (fuel on board) at the gate? Total FOB is released by the same person or company that loaded the fuel. So to ask and report fuel loaded instead of FOB would would be very poor and awkward journalism.
On Crash probe puts focus on pilots
Posted 15 December 2014, 3:16 p.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
Thats a very good story Ava, a very true story.
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Posted 15 December 2014, 2:23 p.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
http://www.thenassauguardian.com/news/5…
On Crash probe puts focus on pilots
Posted 15 December 2014, 1:14 p.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
Many factors would have resulted to this crash, but drugs or alcohol check? Well, maybe its routine, but I don't think so, fatigue perhaps, but I believe the problem to be a desperate position based on insufficient fuel.
Lets go on the information released (by the media) such as, aircraft type, fuel and weather conditions assuming that the fog or clouds were some 300 or 400 feet from the ground. If the airport aircraft landing systems were out of service, and if the trip fuel was 160 gallons (16% fuel tank capacity) from the gate then approach and landing would have to be VOR (visual).
If this was the case, then the flight from NAS - FPO and one go around would have burn some 55% to 60% of the fuel. The remaining fuel on board would be some 40% of the fuel and would be insufficient to safely reach an alternate airport such as Nassau, Bimini or Fort Lauderdale. Returning to Nassau would have been on a wing and a prayer, but I don't see how it was possible to safely reach Nassau as an alternate airport.
If the numbers (informations) is correct you can do this calculation and test with a Flight Navigator and Microsoft Flight Simulator (it might not be exact but pretty close, much closer than feelings and speculations).
I am not trying to create assumption, but what happened is baffling. If the pilots flying this plane were not in charge and there were faith-base or back seat drivers, then the pilot could not make the decision as to what to do. This does not excuse the fact that this accident is a result of pilot error. Globally industry flight rules are simple and rules, regulations and routine safe guards do not change base on where you are. If the weather conditions were clear a visual approach would have been a routine landing. It was not.
Knowing the weather condition before leaving Nassau, the safety measure is to fuel the aircraft with as much fuel as possible to landing, at lease 20% of the fuel tank capacity. Why was it not done? This simple safe guard would have removed the desperate attempts to land instead of flying to an alternate airport. This was a flight of no return, based on the information reaching an alternate airport was a non-option.
On Crash probe puts focus on pilots
Posted 15 December 2014, 12:46 p.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
It is wonderful that Mr Pinder found the opportunity to improve himself and his family. But he was called to a bigger mission to help improve the country's position in difficult times. Mr Pinder is gone and our position is the same, or worst.
Maybe we Bahamians can appreciate a government who leads a population of poor and naive group of people, but what about the global community? How much respect do they have for us? We don't have to look far to see that, just take a look at the respond coming in from the global community on the immigration matter.
If only our government think big that they will realize to serve one country in the capacity of a state office is an honor and privilege. If only they can see that their appointment is not one to improve their status alone but one that is much much bigger and greater that self, but one in which is to take our place in the world by earning the respect of the world.
That can only happen if we work for the common good of the entire country.
That can only begin to happen by realizing that serving the country is a great opportunity to improve the status of all the people. The opportunity to raise the country to new heights. The opportunity to create a nation of quality, pride and privilege for all and this includes Mr Ryan and his family at the same time.
Mr Ryan we can become:
1. A government that represents a nation of wealthy and intelligent race of people. Thats a quality government.
Or settle for:
2. A government that is loved by its nation of poor and ignorant race of people. That's a poor government.
3. A government that is smiled on by a wealthy and privileged minority group of individuals. That's government that no one takes seriously.
Each step down is a downgrade, so tell me Mr Pinder which should we settle for?
On Ryan’s employer: Financial sector’s ‘great opportunity’
Posted 11 December 2014, 3:16 p.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead."
On Probe of 'abuse' by Immigration
Posted 9 December 2014, 10:36 a.m. Suggest removal
ted4bz says...
I am very happy that he did a lot of good in this world, yet it feels very sad.
On DR MYLES MUNROE AND HIS WIFE DEAD IN PLANE CRASH
Posted 9 November 2014, 9:35 p.m. Suggest removal