When NYC and Was and Cali were hotspots, we didn't restrict flights from the US but restricted flights from a list of places (most didn't have direct flights). and allowed cruises and spring breakers in from the US.
So we have a spike in US cases. If you were to amend your policy based on the spike in US cases you would think it would be for US travelers. But the policy seems to apply to, for example, to direct flights from Toronto or London.
So the person coming from Cayman on the same BA flight from London needs to quarantine, but the person coming from London needs a negative test and both are on the same plane.
"She said travelLers from those areas will instead be quarantined on arrival because COVID-19 tests are not available in their countries.
The countries this policy affects include Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, Dominica, Grenada, Jamaica, Montserrat, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia and Turks and Caicos islands."
Cayman has performed 19,336 tests of 65,000 people
Maybe the article means to say "because Covid-19 tests cant easily be obtained on demand if someone wants to take a vacation"....perhaps that is what this means.
On one hand, they criticize for going outside The Bahamas for funding (LPIA), on the other hand they applaud getting funding in The Bahamas (NCP), now they go back to the international market for all of the funding.
I know they won't get all locally but they could have tossed some for local investors.
Not sure, but from the start John you were absolutely spot on in your analysis in February that tourism would be hammered from Coivd-19 when our leaders were talking about 85% occupancy next year. Maybe you should be advising the govt.
1st We can't talk cruises if this rule is in place.
2nd My guess is this is going to be temporary.
3rd If the issue is the US, does this mean, flights from the UK, Cayman, Haiti, Canada, and other places do not need a test?
4th The Minister has no idea how many deaths we would have had. You cant take a place like The Bahamas with its own industries, population density, etc, and then apply it to x US state.
A simple example: Many cases in the US are linked to farms, factories, etc. These are businesses that stayed open during the entire pandemic in the US. Making, shipping, and packaging farming and sending stuff to us.
So imagine if the US shuttered those places and decided it wasn't worth the risk and sent nothing out to places like The Bahamas. Imagine if the US prevented interstate travel. Most things are trucked around, a trucker stops at hotels and rest stops before goods arrive here.
Point being, the US and other countries keeping certain industries open allowed us to keep other things closed.
"As a country, we have fared far better than all of the states in the United States in terms of keeping our people safe and alive"
5th I don't know how he claims all states Alaska = 12 deaths pf 731,545 population Montana 18 deaths of 1,060,000 populaton
Let's take an archipelago Hawaii.
Hawaii 17 deaths of 1.4m population Bahamas 11 deaths of 380,000 population
So the Bahamas has more deaths per 100,000 than those states.
Now if he wants to look at total cases too in the above states
Hawaii has 744 total cases but has performed 74,000+ tests. We have 104 total cases but have performed 2,000 tests.
I've heard persons around the world with the same story. They have the symptoms they test negative.
Some of the US ones are also imported. Take Maryland where Gov. Hogan used his wife' South Korea connections to get test 1/2 million kits. S. Korea is one of the world leaders in producing test kits.
thps says...
Our leaders have already said no need for mass/more tests and contact tracing is enough.
On SHORT TRIP TRAVEL: ‘NO TEST NEEDED’
Posted 22 June 2020, 8:35 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
Sept even sounds optimistic to me.
On Sept 15 earliest cruise lines return
Posted 22 June 2020, 8:32 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
The policy is all over the place.
When NYC and Was and Cali were hotspots, we didn't restrict flights from the US but restricted flights from a list of places (most didn't have direct flights). and allowed cruises and spring breakers in from the US.
So we have a spike in US cases. If you were to amend your policy based on the spike in US cases you would think it would be for US travelers. But the policy seems to apply to, for example, to direct flights from Toronto or London.
So the person coming from Cayman on the same BA flight from London needs to quarantine, but the person coming from London needs a negative test and both are on the same plane.
...and all because of a US spike in cases?
On Carib visitors to face quarantine
Posted 19 June 2020, 12:44 p.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
"She said travelLers from those areas will instead be quarantined on arrival because COVID-19 tests are not available in their countries.
The countries this policy affects include Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, Dominica, Grenada, Jamaica, Montserrat, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia and Turks and Caicos islands."
Cayman has performed 19,336 tests of 65,000 people
Maybe the article means to say "because Covid-19 tests cant easily be obtained on demand if someone wants to take a vacation"....perhaps that is what this means.
On Carib visitors to face quarantine
Posted 19 June 2020, 9:19 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
On one hand, they criticize for going outside The Bahamas for funding (LPIA), on the other hand they applaud getting funding in The Bahamas (NCP), now they go back to the international market for all of the funding.
I know they won't get all locally but they could have tossed some for local investors.
Wherever the wind blows I guess.
On BPL’s $535m bond in Singapore listing
Posted 18 June 2020, 7:09 p.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
Not sure, but from the start John you were absolutely spot on in your analysis in February that tourism would be hammered from Coivd-19 when our leaders were talking about 85% occupancy next year. Maybe you should be advising the govt.
So you may be on to something here again.
On NO TEST - YOU’RE NOT COMING IN: Rising infections in U.S. force retention of test for visitors after July 1
Posted 18 June 2020, 6:43 p.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
1st
We can't talk cruises if this rule is in place.
2nd
My guess is this is going to be temporary.
3rd
If the issue is the US, does this mean, flights from the UK, Cayman, Haiti, Canada, and other places do not need a test?
4th
The Minister has no idea how many deaths we would have had. You cant take a place like The Bahamas with its own industries, population density, etc, and then apply it to x US state.
A simple example: Many cases in the US are linked to farms, factories, etc. These are businesses that stayed open during the entire pandemic in the US. Making, shipping, and packaging farming and sending stuff to us.
So imagine if the US shuttered those places and decided it wasn't worth the risk and sent nothing out to places like The Bahamas.
Imagine if the US prevented interstate travel. Most things are trucked around, a trucker stops at hotels and rest stops before goods arrive here.
Point being, the US and other countries keeping certain industries open allowed us to keep other things closed.
"As a country, we have fared far better than all of the states in the United States in terms of keeping our people safe and alive"
5th
I don't know how he claims all states
Alaska = 12 deaths pf 731,545 population
Montana 18 deaths of 1,060,000 populaton
Let's take an archipelago Hawaii.
Hawaii 17 deaths of 1.4m population
Bahamas 11 deaths of 380,000 population
So the Bahamas has more deaths per 100,000 than those states.
Now if he wants to look at total cases too in the above states
Hawaii has 744 total cases but has performed 74,000+ tests.
We have 104 total cases but have performed 2,000 tests.
So i don't know where he gets all states from.
On NO TEST - YOU’RE NOT COMING IN: Rising infections in U.S. force retention of test for visitors after July 1
Posted 18 June 2020, 10:18 a.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
in a world fo 7billion, i can find you quite a bit.
The number of people doing things during a pandemic that arent advisable is bigger than you think.
On Tourists need negative COVID-19 test from July 1
Posted 17 June 2020, 5:57 p.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
I've heard persons around the world with the same story. They have the symptoms they test negative.
Some of the US ones are also imported. Take Maryland where Gov. Hogan used his wife' South Korea connections to get test 1/2 million kits. S. Korea is one of the world leaders in producing test kits.
On Tourists need negative COVID-19 test from July 1
Posted 17 June 2020, 5:43 p.m. Suggest removal
thps says...
For how long?
This means no cruises.
Unless the cruises will have everyone present a negative test...doubt it.
.... a consequence of an overly dependent tourism economy
On Tourists need negative COVID-19 test from July 1
Posted 17 June 2020, 5:41 p.m. Suggest removal