Vietnam have closed their borders for more than year..
one big change this summer: the beginning of a mass vaccination program. Vietnam didn’t depend on Chinese vaccines, either (not surprising, given the long history of conflict between the two countries). It has mostly used the AstraZeneca DNA/AAV vaccine, along with the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines - the same trio that have dominated Europe.
As of early June, almost no one in Vietnam was vaccinated. Today, almost 20 percent of the country has received at least one dose and 12k died of covid versus 35 in all 2020...
The pattern is exactly the same as we saw in Israel and Britain in January, and many other countries over the spring. The first dose of mass vaccination campaigns is associated with a huge spike in cases.
Too many countries have seen this trend for it to be called coincidental. The question is what’s causing it. Possibilities include post-vaccine behavioral changes (hot vaxxed summer!), vulnerable people clustering together at vaccination sites, or (most likely) some short-term vaccine-driven suppression of the immune system.
Hows my buddy bob? so glad you noticed it's happening everywhere too ; )
Israel doing really well now hey - 1st in the world in Daily cases per capita...in spite of being first to vaccinate 80+% of their adult population and well also now 26% of population with boosters... Cumulative cases just passed a million..It's going really great...Vaccination has made a huge difference to their seasonal burden of respiratory illness. Let's see.... September 1st last year they were at 15 deaths per day (thats with nobody vaccinated) this year they're at around double that...hmmmmm
Vietnam is a textbook example of the post 1st dose vaccination spike - it's been the poster boy for rigorous restrictions. 4.6 million in quarantine centers over 2020, 6 million quarantined at home..aggressive tract and trace..borders shut.. Orwell would have been proud..and to be fair it worked 35 deaths in 2020..dodged the spread of Delta throughout 2021..but since august cases/death have gone bananas - the only thing that is different this summer is a aggressive vaccination program that pickup steam in June...Between July and September nearly 12,000 people have died in Vietnam of covid...
The only thing thats difference is a vaccination program...weird..!?
I wonder if The Bahamas is going through the spike that has been witnessed pretty much every where when vaccination programs take off... Cuba, Seychelles, Israel, UK - as soon as vaccinations started people started dying of COVID...Why? Seychelles literally had not had one death prior to starting their vaccination program.. Cuba had maybe 150 covid deaths in 2020 so far in 2021 it's recorded over 5000 since it's vaccination program began...Is it that vaccine programs are super spreader events in themselves...? It's alleged that there is a temporary immune decline directly after vaccination...? Whatever the reason it's been witnessed everywhere and must be considered a collateral damage event that should be thoroughly investigated...
Then again it could just be seasonality and the stupid move to throw a election at the peak of covid outbreak...so much for the politics of "saving lives"...Maybe the politicians are not actually focused best health practices but rather on using the heath as a means to political capital and central...I wonder..?
Honestly I d swear some people have never heard of google… sigh
Israel Daily new cases around 9.3k for a population 9 mill US Daily new cases around 160k for a pop of 350 mill
Or there a abouts...
Cumulative speaking in terms of total cases ever per pop Seychelles (80/90% vaxxed) takes home the gold and well Isreal still has the usa beat I believe....
1 million cases for a pop of 9 mill for Issy 39 million cases for a pop of 350 mill for US of A
Typical Bahamian development process...sell our birth right for cents on the dollar...red carpet and concessions for foreign developers...bigotry and bias against local developers... unless you're related or give the politician a piece of the pie in which case you golden...Brave, Minnis, it's all the same... shell out and sell out..
Correct thats why the English Data skewed so heavily to vaccinated deaths about 50 years plus - these peeps are likely sick and vulnerable as it is...Statistically speaking no one under the age of 50 has died of the delta variant - vaccinated or not... That is every reason to let kids get back to school, society get back to normal and as you suggest focus protection on those that need it. Obesity is a huge part of COVID equation but also politically sensitive...if people are going to claim to be guided by 'the science' they can't ignore the role of obesity in COVID mortality and hospitalisation..
Israel now has more cases per capita than any where else on the planet and growing...they were the first to fully vaccinate their adult population...they have now given 26% of their population a third dose...looks like it's working out great..
And in other news a massive 350k RTC study in Bangladesh demonstrated that cloths masks made no difference at all to infection rates. Surgical masks made a slight difference to the 50+ population (but possible other dynamics may have impacted that out come) and made no difference in the under 50 portion of population...
In short the virus is going to virus...understanding seasonality and targeted protection for vulnerable members of the population is the only strategy that makes sense...
One what grounds? It’s clear the effect of vaccination is short lived. And the risk from covid to all those other than vulnerable is marginal - 2%-4% of hospitalization, 0.15 of death.... A few people are allergic to nuts - around 1.1% of the population- you would mandate the removal of all nut based menu items? Or strategically advise people of the instances or menu items that put them at risk…?
whogothere says...
Vietnam have closed their borders for more than year..
one big change this summer: the beginning of a mass vaccination program. Vietnam didn’t depend on Chinese vaccines, either (not surprising, given the long history of conflict between the two countries). It has mostly used the AstraZeneca DNA/AAV vaccine, along with the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines - the same trio that have dominated Europe.
As of early June, almost no one in Vietnam was vaccinated. Today, almost 20 percent of the country has received at least one dose and 12k died of covid versus 35 in all 2020...
The pattern is exactly the same as we saw in Israel and Britain in January, and many other countries over the spring. The first dose of mass vaccination campaigns is associated with a huge spike in cases.
Too many countries have seen this trend for it to be called coincidental. The question is what’s causing it. Possibilities include post-vaccine behavioral changes (hot vaxxed summer!), vulnerable people clustering together at vaccination sites, or (most likely) some short-term vaccine-driven suppression of the immune system.
On Two more deaths bring total to 408
Posted 3 September 2021, 10:18 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Hows my buddy bob? so glad you noticed it's happening everywhere too ; )
Israel doing really well now hey - 1st in the world in Daily cases per capita...in spite of being first to vaccinate 80+% of their adult population and well also now 26% of population with boosters... Cumulative cases just passed a million..It's going really great...Vaccination has made a huge difference to their seasonal burden of respiratory illness. Let's see.... September 1st last year they were at 15 deaths per day (thats with nobody vaccinated) this year they're at around double that...hmmmmm
Vietnam is a textbook example of the post 1st dose vaccination spike - it's been the poster boy for rigorous restrictions. 4.6 million in quarantine centers over 2020, 6 million quarantined at home..aggressive tract and trace..borders shut.. Orwell would have been proud..and to be fair it worked 35 deaths in 2020..dodged the spread of Delta throughout 2021..but since august cases/death have gone bananas - the only thing that is different this summer is a aggressive vaccination program that pickup steam in June...Between July and September nearly 12,000 people have died in Vietnam of covid...
The only thing thats difference is a vaccination program...weird..!?
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/…
On Two more deaths bring total to 408
Posted 3 September 2021, 9:58 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Focus on getting kids back into school before making bold promises you can’t fathom how to execute...
On JUST WHAT THE DOCTOR ORDERED: Minnis reveals free school meals plan for all children regardless of family income
Posted 2 September 2021, 7:49 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
I wonder if The Bahamas is going through the spike that has been witnessed pretty much every where when vaccination programs take off... Cuba, Seychelles, Israel, UK - as soon as vaccinations started people started dying of COVID...Why? Seychelles literally had not had one death prior to starting their vaccination program.. Cuba had maybe 150 covid deaths in 2020 so far in 2021 it's recorded over 5000 since it's vaccination program began...Is it that vaccine programs are super spreader events in themselves...? It's alleged that there is a temporary immune decline directly after vaccination...? Whatever the reason it's been witnessed everywhere and must be considered a collateral damage event that should be thoroughly investigated...
Then again it could just be seasonality and the stupid move to throw a election at the peak of covid outbreak...so much for the politics of "saving lives"...Maybe the politicians are not actually focused best health practices but rather on using the heath as a means to political capital and central...I wonder..?
On Two more deaths bring total to 408
Posted 2 September 2021, 5:52 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Honestly I d swear some people have never heard of google… sigh
Israel Daily new cases around 9.3k for a population 9 mill
US Daily new cases around 160k for a pop of 350 mill
Or there a abouts...
Cumulative speaking in terms of total cases ever per pop Seychelles (80/90% vaxxed) takes home the gold and well Isreal still has the usa beat I believe....
1 million cases for a pop of 9 mill for Issy
39 million cases for a pop of 350 mill for US of A
https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co…
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases#…
On 25 more deaths as surge powers on
Posted 2 September 2021, 5:13 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Typical Bahamian development process...sell our birth right for cents on the dollar...red carpet and concessions for foreign developers...bigotry and bias against local developers... unless you're related or give the politician a piece of the pie in which case you golden...Brave, Minnis, it's all the same... shell out and sell out..
On ‘Final approvals’ near for Disney cruise project in Eleuthera
Posted 2 September 2021, 1:28 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Correct thats why the English Data skewed so heavily to vaccinated deaths about 50 years plus - these peeps are likely sick and vulnerable as it is...Statistically speaking no one under the age of 50 has died of the delta variant - vaccinated or not... That is every reason to let kids get back to school, society get back to normal and as you suggest focus protection on those that need it. Obesity is a huge part of COVID equation but also politically sensitive...if people are going to claim to be guided by 'the science' they can't ignore the role of obesity in COVID mortality and hospitalisation..
On 25 more deaths as surge powers on
Posted 2 September 2021, 1:22 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Israel now has more cases per capita than any where else on the planet and growing...they were the first to fully vaccinate their adult population...they have now given 26% of their population a third dose...looks like it's working out great..
And in other news a massive 350k RTC study in Bangladesh demonstrated that cloths masks made no difference at all to infection rates. Surgical masks made a slight difference to the 50+ population (but possible other dynamics may have impacted that out come) and made no difference in the under 50 portion of population...
In short the virus is going to virus...understanding seasonality and targeted protection for vulnerable members of the population is the only strategy that makes sense...
On 25 more deaths as surge powers on
Posted 2 September 2021, 9:07 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Thats what you call data mining for deaths to produce sensationalist headlines...
On Death toll soars by 27 as Grand Bahama cases confirmed
Posted 31 August 2021, 8:39 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
One what grounds? It’s clear the effect of vaccination is short lived. And the risk from covid to all those other than vulnerable is marginal - 2%-4% of hospitalization, 0.15 of death.... A few people are allergic to nuts - around 1.1% of the population- you would mandate the removal of all nut based menu items? Or strategically advise people of the instances or menu items that put them at risk…?
And what if it's not what the majority want?
On INSIGHT: Tough decisions lie ahead and that may mean mandated vaccines
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