1.5 years later and this is first time excess is being mentioned in the tribune...hilarious...It's not just because the hospital is full - largely because people are dying of other causes because of government has increased the expense of travel for rudimentary checkups that the average Bahamian can no longer afford because of excessive and panic laden restrictions that have killed their businesses and jobs. Families are subject to incredible pressure as the juggle homeschool, home economics and a restrictions on their civil liberties.. Murder is up 67% in Bahamas suicides too we- don't have statistics for cancer, dementia deaths etc etc. but in most other countries those are up as well...
This same panic is a contributing factor that fills the hospitals too. Just 3 days ago I was talking to a gentlemen on the docks, he mentioned his brother had covid and had gone to hospital. The man mentioned that his father wasn't that sick but was terrified that he might quickly deteriorate and so he went to hospital to be on the safe side. He was admitted given o2 and then released - but he clogged up a bed for a 3 or 4 days or so. I have to wonder how many of the so called 'moderate cases' occurring like this...?
My experience of COVID was mild - headaches, horrible cough, stairs rendered me out breadth and at time while lying in bed I felt as if someone was sitting on my chest... To me this is mild because I have had chest infections that have made feel the same way way and worse. 3 or 4 days of water, vit c, aloe and rest ultimately did the trick...But in the climate of COVID = death I can imagine why people forget what being sick was before all this and embrace the terror that has been published for nearly 2 years...In addition your loved ones of think the worse and want to avoid it - so playing it safe becomes a potentially unnecessary hospital admittance...clogging up an already fragile healthcare system..
Buys you six months - go for it...but as a few of us having saying for a while...all that glitters ain’t gold and the vac won’t provide Providence either.
Bingo my thoughts exactly... Obesity is the elephant in the room. Limiting the rights of those that are obese (in the same manner of those that are unvaccinated) would likely have more effect that current government policy. Of course will never happen but just another indication of how un-rooted in science current regulations are. This has always been an disease that effects the vulnerable - old, obese and already sick - vaccinated the whole of society is not the answer and likely to bring more variants to fore that if natural immunity was acquired - eg India, Nepal.
Correct thisisours - 1. Vaccination is a 'flash in the pan' for protection. 2. it fails quickly 3. particularly in at risk populations 4. But in the short term keep peeps out of hospital. 5. It has not lived up to expectations (as many of us skeptics called it when we were looking at the uk and Israeli data) but is better than nothing 6. Natural antibody protection is still the best (uk and Israeli data supports this - the cdc's one study to contrary is crud) 7. Get ready for boosters for life!!
This is just tragic..there is no justification for this... Sacrificing children's educations for something that kills 3 times less people than fast food... Online learning doesn't work..
Positive for at risk persons, but remember COVID s impact is marginal to 96% of the population. The only positive is to lower risk for a tiny proportion of vulnerable persons. The argument for universal vaccination dies on that hill given that it has little impact on transmission. The main and largely promoted reason was to protect not just yourself but others - if you re young and healthy or had COVID already you re already protected - stripping your rights is not just unconstitutional but impractical.
Other considerations: The sustained injections of MRNA is an unknown so there is possibly diminishing returns (third booster not stopping the Israeli wave) and data on the long term out comes and side effect profile is already huge in a system that is designed to not have these things reported.
The article is important because it’s shows cracks in the narrative - people have been banned from social media networks for saying less. The reality is our freedoms were crushed to save us from a tiger which turned out to be pussy cat and we were sold key to our cage door only to find that door doesn’t go anywhere - anybody that spoke this truth was branded a conspiracy theorist...
Let’s not be under any delusion of why the doc is running now - the speaker said it 4 weeks ago :
> Based on the budget, the government would need to borrow a whole lot of money and based on the information I am aware of, the lending institutions seem to be demanding that the government gets a new mandate to be able to secure the type of loans or the amount of loans that are required”
Which will likely include plans of a tax increase...
whogothere says...
Stupid false equivalence c19 death rate is 0.15 so even if every person in the Bahamas got COVID simultaneously at most 600 might die
On D’Aguilar: Bahamas COVID numbers ‘a lot better than the United States’
Posted 29 August 2021, 8:08 p.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
1.5 years later and this is first time excess is being mentioned in the tribune...hilarious...It's not just because the hospital is full - largely because people are dying of other causes because of government has increased the expense of travel for rudimentary checkups that the average Bahamian can no longer afford because of excessive and panic laden restrictions that have killed their businesses and jobs. Families are subject to incredible pressure as the juggle homeschool, home economics and a restrictions on their civil liberties.. Murder is up 67% in Bahamas suicides too we- don't have statistics for cancer, dementia deaths etc etc. but in most other countries those are up as well...
This same panic is a contributing factor that fills the hospitals too. Just 3 days ago I was talking to a gentlemen on the docks, he mentioned his brother had covid and had gone to hospital. The man mentioned that his father wasn't that sick but was terrified that he might quickly deteriorate and so he went to hospital to be on the safe side. He was admitted given o2 and then released - but he clogged up a bed for a 3 or 4 days or so. I have to wonder how many of the so called 'moderate cases' occurring like this...?
My experience of COVID was mild - headaches, horrible cough, stairs rendered me out breadth and at time while lying in bed I felt as if someone was sitting on my chest... To me this is mild because I have had chest infections that have made feel the same way way and worse. 3 or 4 days of water, vit c, aloe and rest ultimately did the trick...But in the climate of COVID = death I can imagine why people forget what being sick was before all this and embrace the terror that has been published for nearly 2 years...In addition your loved ones of think the worse and want to avoid it - so playing it safe becomes a potentially unnecessary hospital admittance...clogging up an already fragile healthcare system..
On EDITORIAL: The unknown cost from excess deaths
Posted 27 August 2021, 5:57 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Meanwhile in India natural immunity appears to be paying off...
fancy that..
https://apple.news/ADqMy741_SkyvKXF_1Wx…
On Wells: No plans to reimpose lockdown in COVID fight
Posted 26 August 2021, 7:13 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Drive up hysteria - and what did you think was going to happen...?
On Crisis’ toll on non-COVID patients
Posted 26 August 2021, 5:32 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Buys you six months - go for it...but as a few of us having saying for a while...all that glitters ain’t gold and the vac won’t provide Providence either.
www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/israel…
On Pfizer nod gives confidence boost
Posted 26 August 2021, 5:24 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Bingo my thoughts exactly... Obesity is the elephant in the room. Limiting the rights of those that are obese (in the same manner of those that are unvaccinated) would likely have more effect that current government policy. Of course will never happen but just another indication of how un-rooted in science current regulations are. This has always been an disease that effects the vulnerable - old, obese and already sick - vaccinated the whole of society is not the answer and likely to bring more variants to fore that if natural immunity was acquired - eg India, Nepal.
On AS MOTHER AND SON DIE WITHIN 24 HOURS: ‘No ifs, ands, buts or maybes about it. Absolutely get vaccinated. So many people have died in this past month’, you absolutely must get vaccinated.’’
Posted 25 August 2021, 6:30 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Correct thisisours - 1. Vaccination is a 'flash in the pan' for protection. 2. it fails quickly 3. particularly in at risk populations 4. But in the short term keep peeps out of hospital. 5. It has not lived up to expectations (as many of us skeptics called it when we were looking at the uk and Israeli data) but is better than nothing 6. Natural antibody protection is still the best (uk and Israeli data supports this - the cdc's one study to contrary is crud) 7. Get ready for boosters for life!!
On AS MOTHER AND SON DIE WITHIN 24 HOURS: ‘No ifs, ands, buts or maybes about it. Absolutely get vaccinated. So many people have died in this past month’, you absolutely must get vaccinated.’’
Posted 25 August 2021, 5:52 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
This is just tragic..there is no justification for this...
Sacrificing children's educations for something that kills 3 times less people than fast food...
Online learning doesn't work..
On Schools to reopen but not face-to-face
Posted 24 August 2021, 4:50 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Positive for at risk persons, but remember COVID s impact is marginal to 96% of the population. The only positive is to lower risk for a tiny proportion of vulnerable persons. The argument for universal vaccination dies on that hill given that it has little impact on transmission. The main and largely promoted reason was to protect not just yourself but others - if you re young and healthy or had COVID already you re already protected - stripping your rights is not just unconstitutional but impractical.
Other considerations: The sustained injections of MRNA is an unknown so there is possibly diminishing returns (third booster not stopping the Israeli wave) and data on the long term out comes and side effect profile is already huge in a system that is designed to not have these things reported.
The article is important because it’s shows cracks in the narrative - people have been banned from social media networks for saying less. The reality is our freedoms were crushed to save us from a tiger which turned out to be pussy cat and we were sold key to our cage door only to find that door doesn’t go anywhere - anybody that spoke this truth was branded a conspiracy theorist...
On Rush for Pfizer vaccine as demand on the rise
Posted 22 August 2021, 5:14 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Let’s not be under any delusion of why the doc is running now - the speaker said it 4 weeks ago :
> Based on the budget, the government would need to borrow a whole lot of money and based on the information I am aware of, the lending institutions seem to be demanding that the government gets a new mandate to be able to secure the type of loans or the amount of loans that are required”
Which will likely include plans of a tax increase...
www.tribune242.com/news/2021/jul/21/pm-…
On FNM Chairman defends PM's election decision
Posted 22 August 2021, 2:39 a.m. Suggest removal