@happyfly No - the argument is that lockdown are doing more damage than they stop. And that the medical impact of COVID has been glorified to the point no other medical conditions matter. In short the definition of public has been reduced to a singular threat to society - this is flawed on so many levels.
No - the argument is that lockdown are doing more damage than they stop. And that medical impact of COVID has been glorified to the point no other medical conditions matter. In short the definition of public has been reduced to a singular threat to society - this is flawed on so many levels.
Here is another fact on average 2500, Bahamians die each year. Roughly 208 each month, roughly 48 each week around 7 per day. We're not aware of it because there is not daily reports or dashboard which demand the attention on it. Covid has not vastly increased these rates and are often subset of people that were potentially to going to die already, because thats how the disease works but the response to this has likely potential to do so if things are not changed. That is why understanding the true risk (IFR) is so important. The fact The WHO finally recognizing the this is huge. Every time there is lockdown that prohibits travel people that need cancer treatments or diagnosis can't get them. This has been going on for 5 months now. The impact of this will be more death later. But people like you are not considering this only looking at the panic in front of you and not questioning it.
@topdude stop living in fear. This is one of many peer reviewed documents that are proving that this is overblown.20,000 medical professionals and scientist are all coming to the same conclusion - protect the old let the rest of society get on with it. And now The Who admits it - lockdowns don't work, they advise against it. Now they publish this document which reveals what we have been saying for months. covid ifr are in the range of the flu less is if you are young, more if your old. It's a mild disease, lofted into panic. It's over England, Denmark, France - cases up but death aren't. It's all political. It's done. Get over it.
Back log on the weekend...when you review the data on biweekly rates the infection rate is flat. We have not a increase in the rate of infection for 8 weeks or so. Either because testing rate has maxed or because the virus has maxed out population infection at 20% - the posivity rate which has been the same more 2 months as well.
In other good news the WHO published a peer reviewed study that puts the IFR at 0.5 for under 70s. (Half The death rate of the flu for working age people). it’s over Minnis, MOH, you wasted 5 months of our lives, didnt really save any one, killed small business, killed the economy, possibly will kill a few more that would have got diagnosed or treatments but couldn’t because of lockdowns...probably messed with the life path of a few kids but hey you not alone. Just say sorry you made a mistake -‘how could you have known’ (it’s not like this study was First published back in may)...
@topdude Because it didn t work the first time. And they are too stubborn to admit they got it wrong...So cases are exploding again. But not in no lockdown Sweden... with no masks life returns to normal..and without a bankruptOmg populous or government and with no excess deaths in comparison to previous years.... hmmm... meanwhile these 5 months lockdown sunk us deep into debt, cancelled diagnosis of cancer of surgeries, put 100k people on food bank support, threatened children’s education and saw an uptick of suicide attempts, crime and domestic violence...for what? There is No evidence a single life as been saved!
....grand Bahama had 80 cases when the lockdown started it now has 600+....on may 14th When Bimini’s lockdown started there were 11 cases, there are now 56..in both islands cases more than quadrupled...before they slowed. In the first 14 days of august over the lockdown cases increased from 291 to 821, in the same period in 3 weeks later in September (4 to 19th) cases went 1590 to 2289.increasing by almost the exact same multiple despite being full open... come man don t lie to us - it just don t look good on you!!
whogothere says...
@happyfly No - the argument is that lockdown are doing more damage than they stop. And that the medical impact of COVID has been glorified to the point no other medical conditions matter. In short the definition of public has been reduced to a singular threat to society - this is flawed on so many levels.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19...">https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19...
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/09/24/c...">https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/09/24/c...
https://theweek.com/speedreads/937870...">https://theweek.com/speedreads/937870...
https://missionlocal.org/2020/10/over...">https://missionlocal.org/2020/10/over...
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...">https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lo...">https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lo...
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On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 11:51 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
No - the argument is that lockdown are doing more damage than they stop. And that medical impact of COVID has been glorified to the point no other medical conditions matter. In short the definition of public has been reduced to a singular threat to society - this is flawed on so many levels.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-o…
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2020/09/24/coo…
https://theweek.com/speedreads/937870/c…
https://missionlocal.org/2020/10/overdo…
https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/loc…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-lock…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarie…
On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 11:39 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Here is another fact on average 2500, Bahamians die each year. Roughly 208 each month, roughly 48 each week around 7 per day. We're not aware of it because there is not daily reports or dashboard which demand the attention on it. Covid has not vastly increased these rates and are often subset of people that were potentially to going to die already, because thats how the disease works but the response to this has likely potential to do so if things are not changed. That is why understanding the true risk (IFR) is so important. The fact The WHO finally recognizing the this is huge. Every time there is lockdown that prohibits travel people that need cancer treatments or diagnosis can't get them. This has been going on for 5 months now. The impact of this will be more death later. But people like you are not considering this only looking at the panic in front of you and not questioning it.
On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 11:24 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
@topdude stop living in fear. This is one of many peer reviewed documents that are proving that this is overblown.20,000 medical professionals and scientist are all coming to the same conclusion - protect the old let the rest of society get on with it. And now The Who admits it - lockdowns don't work, they advise against it. Now they publish this document which reveals what we have been saying for months. covid ifr are in the range of the flu less is if you are young, more if your old. It's a mild disease, lofted into panic. It's over England, Denmark, France - cases up but death aren't. It's all political. It's done. Get over it.
On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 9:48 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Sorry IFR of 0.05% - half flu rates
On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 7:57 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Back log on the weekend...when you review the data on biweekly rates the infection rate is flat. We have not a increase in the rate of infection for 8 weeks or so. Either because testing rate has maxed or because the virus has maxed out population infection at 20% - the posivity rate which has been the same more 2 months as well.
On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 7:42 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
In other good news the WHO published a peer reviewed study that puts the IFR at 0.5 for under 70s. (Half The death rate of the flu for working age people). it’s over Minnis, MOH, you wasted 5 months of our lives, didnt really save any one, killed small business, killed the economy, possibly will kill a few more that would have got diagnosed or treatments but couldn’t because of lockdowns...probably messed with the life path of a few kids but hey you not alone. Just say sorry you made a mistake -‘how could you have known’ (it’s not like this study was First published back in may)...
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_fir…
On 28 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, one additional death
Posted 15 October 2020, 7:38 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
@topdude Because it didn t work the first time. And they are too stubborn to admit they got it wrong...So cases are exploding again. But not in no lockdown Sweden... with no masks life returns to normal..and without a bankruptOmg populous or government and with no excess deaths in comparison to previous years.... hmmm... meanwhile these 5 months lockdown sunk us deep into debt, cancelled diagnosis of cancer of surgeries, put 100k people on food bank support, threatened children’s education and saw an uptick of suicide attempts, crime and domestic violence...for what? There is No evidence a single life as been saved!
On ‘Lockdowns work - but need to find balance’
Posted 14 October 2020, 10:36 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
....grand Bahama had 80 cases when the lockdown started it now has 600+....on may 14th When Bimini’s lockdown started there were 11 cases, there are now 56..in both islands cases more than quadrupled...before they slowed. In the first 14 days of august over the lockdown cases increased from 291 to 821, in the same period in 3 weeks later in September (4 to 19th) cases went 1590 to 2289.increasing by almost the exact same multiple despite being full open... come man don t lie to us - it just don t look good on you!!
On ‘Lockdowns work - but need to find balance’
Posted 14 October 2020, 7:24 a.m. Suggest removal
whogothere says...
Case and point http://www.tribune242.com/news/2020/oct…
On Lockdowns ‘behind us’ for November 1
Posted 13 October 2020, 11:56 p.m. Suggest removal